Ponzi world taking over gambling section

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0

it's getting pretty bad. we need a nurse.

What is wrong with this? ponzis are gambling and are in the right sub-forum.

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it's getting pretty bad. we need a nurse.

A sexy nurse! http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/hokageaddict/hot-japanese-nurse-1.jpg

But seriously at least they're being contained into one section now, I think you're right in maybe that we need a whole section for ponzi schemes though.

Creating a extra sub-forum just for ponzi's could be a good idea I never thought of that.

Agreed! The Leancy HYIP (ponzi) is being marketed as a legitimate business all over the forums as well, somewhat disturbing.

Quote from: MakeBelieve on February 17, 2014, 08:45:53 PM

What is wrong with this? ponzis are gambling and are in the right sub-forum.

It is called a Ponzi "Scheme" because it is not a gambling game, but a Scheme to bilk "investors" out of money.

Quote from: MakeBelieve on February 17, 2014, 09:45:45 PM

Creating a extra sub-forum just for ponzi's could be a good idea I never thought of that.

I'm glad you reversed yourself quickly.

The sub-forum from gambling would be a mis-categorization, but any split from our regular marketplace/gambling is much, much needed.

People who deposits into this scheme are often the same, most of the money is deposited by people that "know" what they are doing : they are gambling hoping to get some profits before it stops
The fact is that the first investors can get a lot of money

It is obvious that some depositors don't know what they are doing and think it is an ''investment'' but it is a minority and small deposits

Most this ponzis is marketed as guaranteed money return which is not. We all know that the last depositors would not see their money again.

Full disclosure: I'm currently developing my own ponzi site.

Ponzis which are not clearly described as a ponzi should be removed without fail. In my opinion, Ponzis are just another form of gambling; some win but the majority to lose, Just like any other gamble.

Quote from: Micon on February 17, 2014, 11:00:16 PM

Quote from: MakeBelieve on February 17, 2014, 08:45:53 PM

What is wrong with this? ponzis are gambling and are in the right sub-forum.

It is called a Ponzi "Scheme" because it is not a gambling game, but a Scheme to bilk "investors" out of money.

Well it's certainly a gamble putting your money in them. Maybe having a section for Ponzis/pyramids or other HYIP would be a good idea, and maybe putting a warning on the forum like there is Securities.

Totally agree, please move ponzi related threads to another section.

We have a place for those threads already. Games and Rounds. It was placed there because of the chaos created by spreadsheet ponzi's and all sorts of craziness created in October(ish) of 2011. I lost a lot of money... lol

I agree.

IMO Gambling and poker websites are perfect examples of good usage of bitcoin. Most governments want to control all gambling/poker websites (like USA banning all pokersites including freezing millions of peoples money.) Bitcoin gives us the freedom to just have that fun (and job for some better poker players.)

Ponzi's are obviously just a scam. Most threads even imply "guaranteed payouts" and call it "investments" (investing in what? lol)

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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation.

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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.

Hoping to not get scammed is not gambling. If that would be the case then "newbies buying bitcoin for PayPal" should be also in the Gambling section, because maybe you will get your money and maybe you will be scammed.

I think the "Gambling" section was a decent presentation of the gambling websites in the bitcoin community. But when the list includes so many sketchy ponzi schemes it is just embarrassing the whole bitcoin gambling scene.

I do like freedom and if idiots do want to join ponzi schemes that is ok, but better in a different forum.

AGreed, please move them to games and rounds (even though I think they should basically be not allowed). In any case they shouldn't be in gambling, it's making it impossible for "regular" sites to have threads and get activity.

Even more are opening up every day and clogging the site up and most of them don't have replies because people know it's going to end up bad.

GET RID OF PONZI MOSTLY NEWBIES WITH NEAR OR SAME DATE OF REGISTRATION IM SURE IS ONE PERSON OPERATING THE WHOLE DAMN SCAM!!!!

Quote from: iram3130 on February 18, 2014, 03:01:11 AM

Most this ponzis is marketed as guaranteed money return which is not. We all know that the last depositors would not see their money again.

I am not a last depositor and I got scammed 0.01 BTC already, by trying one out.

Quote from: byt411 on February 18, 2014, 10:07:47 PM

Quote from: iram3130 on February 18, 2014, 03:01:11 AM

Most this ponzis is marketed as guaranteed money return which is not. We all know that the last depositors would not see their money again.

I am not a last depositor and I got scammed 0.01 BTC already, by trying one out.

I lost 0.1 (0.15 counting the interests that I should have received if the owner didn't run away with the money (bit4max)

The money ends up or passed through these wallets :

https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1BrjpoTtK9ZnTj8GupJDvKL1sxh1uPMAdP

https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1JdE1cKjhZLXG6jrGZbQCBAZHz25SqD4XJ

Big time sca.mmer

I do think the Ponzis should have a sub-board in the gambling section. Put a warning saying "SITES MAY SCAM! BE CAUTIOUS!" on it for Newbies.

YES PLEASE GIVE A SUB-FORUM ITS ANNOYING!!!!