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June 22, 2019, 02:07:47 PM
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And it was documented after the wager contest that ALL bets were rolled back and all players got their balances reset. No player lost any money. I did as some players withdrew winnings during the contest.

It's weird that you consider that acceptable. It's almost like you don't understand how a casino works.  Huh Huh Huh


BTW Can you give a straight answer to why you rolled everything back and didn't pay out the wager prizes? Or simply because it was cheaper than paying out?

Just because no one lost money, doesn't mean they weren't scammed of their time and potential profits. Offering a fake contest just to drive traffic to the site isn't very honest either.

I should have had around 30-40 LTC profit if I recall correctly from participating in the contest which was reset away.


The scam was carried out in a particular manner, people definitely lost money if not in one way then in another.

For example, serial scammer Dean Nolan stole a minimum of 30 million of the 100 million original BKB tokens, then wanted to cash them in but the site was not making any profit so he decided to use the bankroll funds to "buy-back" tokens and in the process sold the tokens he stole in order to make himself rich which at the guaranteed buy-back rates was $2,785,800

Yes, he made a minimum of $2,785,800 from the whole $6.5 million the 2017 ICO funds brought in.

Then he made much more from other ways to scam as well.


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June 27, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
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and operated it honestly (to the best of my knowledge)

Dean has not been an honest operator for a VERY long time.  Much before his first shut down.

(Sorry, had to poke my head in here on that.)

Dean does appear to have some extortionist bothering him, but Dean is a dishonest operator for sure.



It is very helpful when users from the Pocket Rocket Casino days come along and state that he was scamming affiliates way back even then.

It should work as a reminder to those gullible enough to believe anything and everything that comes out the mouth of serial scammer Dean Nolan that the man has a history of scamming.


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July 04, 2019, 12:07:32 PM
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Game Protect was recently approached by an UK lawyer who is expert for Bitcoin enforcement and we likely can enforce the crypto currencies scam artist Dean Nolan has scammed!
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July 08, 2019, 11:17:25 AM
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Dean scammed even more people:

I was told from reliable sources that when he shut down the sportsbook he just took the money from pending bets and didn't pay winning bets.
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July 08, 2019, 12:06:49 PM
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are all you guys stuck in 2017. talk about beating a dead horse



guess what. betking had some gamblers today, and yesterday, and the everyday for the last 2 years. and guess what


not 1 person had a problem withdrawing.


ICO's got crazy at the end. everyone who had a ico back when ETH went from $1300 down to $300. lost bigtime





you guys remind me of the trump haters out there. no matter what gotta bash. fake outrage daily.

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July 08, 2019, 12:50:09 PM
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are all you guys stuck in 2017. talk about beating a dead horse

guess what. betking had some gamblers today, and yesterday, and the everyday for the last 2 years. and guess what

not 1 person had a problem withdrawing.

ICO's got crazy at the end. everyone who had a ico back when ETH went from $1300 down to $300. lost bigtime

you guys remind me of the trump haters out there. no matter what gotta bash. fake outrage daily.





Dean scammed even more people:

I was told from reliable sources that when he shut down the sportsbook he just took the money from pending bets and didn't pay winning bets.
That would not surprise me because Dean Nolan is a serial scammer and not all victims of his scams will post in these threads to complain.

He has a history of scamming investors and betking users so these types of allegations should not really surprise anybody any more.




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July 08, 2019, 04:02:05 PM
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show me 1 angry ICO investor who is out alot of money .

I havn't seen one($1,000+ loss)


only people i see whining are ones who lost nothing from dean. never got into ico


ifr someone scammed me for $1000+ i would be here everyday till i got it back.


dont see anyone here like that

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July 08, 2019, 04:27:27 PM
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show me 1 angry ICO investor who is out alot of money .

I havn't seen one($1,000+ loss)


only people i see whining are ones who lost nothing from dean. never got into ico


ifr someone scammed me for $1000+ i would be here everyday till i got it back.


dont see anyone here like that

The group of ICO investors that were thinking of taking group legal action against serial scammer Dean Nolan probably prefer to keep their names quiet. And why would investors that made profit and cashed-in complain anyway?

It is the investors and token holders remaining that should complain but those that do not complain here cannot be happy with the fact that serial scammer stole 30 million of the 100 million BKB tokens and they cannot be happy with the fact that serial scammer Dean Nolan used the bankroll funds to buy-back tokens which was completely in contradiction to the ICO promises.

He did that just to sell off his stolen BKB alongside other sellers just to try to hide his scam. And the funds he siphoned-off that were supposed to be used for "marketing and legal etc" was the final humiliation because investors funds were left to near zero.

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July 08, 2019, 04:34:01 PM
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show me 1 angry ICO investor who is out alot of money .

I havn't seen one($1,000+ loss)


only people i see whining are ones who lost nothing from dean. never got into ico


ifr someone scammed me for $1000+ i would be here everyday till i got it back.


dont see anyone here like that
Not all investors are on Bitcointalk and not all investors want to publicly engage Dean.

Of course, if we want to believe all accounts then there have been those that play on the new site as well as investors that have complained about the losses incurred through BetKing.
I did do the math: even if you took the ICO discount you're still at a ~50% loss from the removal of the buyback. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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July 09, 2019, 05:46:54 AM
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Dean scammed even more people:

I was told from reliable sources that when he shut down the sportsbook he just took the money from pending bets and didn't pay winning bets.

to be fair I had like 11 pending bets after he shut down the bookie , but thing is that I didn't even remember what are the pending bets
contacted dean and he sent me all the bets I made , all of them were settled and paid later

haven't heard anything related to that except from you
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How much is the fee scam artis Dean Nolan did not pay for using the Bustabit software?

I believe the standard license is a one-time fee of 2 bitcoin. FWIW, I don't think it's actually too big of a deal -- all things considered -- copyright violation is pretty minor. Had Dean just said: "I don't believe in copyright law, so I have no intention of following it"  -- I'd probably think it's a reasonable enough position.

However, the whole thing revealed that Dean has absolutely no problems in blatantly and provably lying just to save 2 btc (after supposedly raising millions in an ICO).

And actually, it's how the mini-feud between me and him started. Previously I was on good terms with him, and helped him out with things numerous times. He told me he was using the bustabit code on both the server and client. I recommended to him that he should just follow the AGPLv3 license  (as it's pretty reasonable, and free!) or just pay Daniel for a license. I also said something in confidence like: "if Daniel doesn't realize, you can probably get away it" (although I did emphasis it's best to do things legitimately).

Then Dean went behind my back, and misrepresented what I said and lied about me telling him he "can do it". (something that even if wasn't a lie, I wouldn't have the rights to do anyway).

That's when I realized something was _seriously_ wrong. He had no problems provably lying and burning personal relationships just to save a couple bitcoin. A casino is built on a trust, and Dean has proven (now several times over) that he can't be relied on to always be honest or do the right thing. It's no wonder his casino has virtually zero volume left; all the smart money knows to stay far away.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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July 10, 2019, 08:58:58 AM
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show me 1 angry ICO investor who is out alot of money .

I havn't seen one($1,000+ loss)


only people i see whining are ones who lost nothing from dean. never got into ico


ifr someone scammed me for $1000+ i would be here everyday till i got it back.


dont see anyone here like that
Not all investors are on Bitcointalk and not all investors want to publicly engage Dean.

Of course, if we want to believe all accounts then there have been those that play on the new site as well as investors that have complained about the losses incurred through BetKing.
I did do the math: even if you took the ICO discount you're still at a ~50% loss from the removal of the buyback. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


The user is interested in pushing forward the "dean is innocent" and "if you post about betking then you are damaging investors chances of getting money back" narratives.....  but to the majority it has been clearly exposed that Dean Nolan is a serial scammer.

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July 10, 2019, 01:29:03 PM
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The user is interested in pushing forward the "dean is innocent" and "if you post about betking then you are damaging investors chances of getting money back" narratives.....  but to the majority it has been clearly exposed that Dean Nolan is a serial scammer.

Yeah he burned me on affiliate pay too for a HUGE whale i brought to his site that ended up losing 100s of BTC on the site the guys a selfish prick man he pretended to be cool

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July 10, 2019, 02:13:54 PM
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show me 1 angry ICO investor who is out alot of money .

I havn't seen one($1,000+ loss)


only people i see whining are ones who lost nothing from dean. never got into ico


ifr someone scammed me for $1000+ i would be here everyday till i got it back.


dont see anyone here like that
Not all investors are on Bitcointalk and not all investors want to publicly engage Dean.

Of course, if we want to believe all accounts then there have been those that play on the new site as well as investors that have complained about the losses incurred through BetKing.
I did do the math: even if you took the ICO discount you're still at a ~50% loss from the removal of the buyback. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


The user is interested in pushing forward the "dean is innocent" and "if you post about betking then you are damaging investors chances of getting money back" narratives.....  but to the majority it has been clearly exposed that Dean Nolan is a serial scammer.

i have never said dean is innocent. i dont like dean, i dont wager there or invest. i'm just sick n tired of you ruining every thread in gambling section

your're the reason i left bitcointalk almost 2 years ago. i think alot of people stopped posting in gambling section around the same time.

you killed bitcointalk gambling section.





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July 10, 2019, 02:37:31 PM
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The user is interested in pushing forward the "dean is innocent" and "if you post about betking then you are damaging investors chances of getting money back" narratives.....  but to the majority it has been clearly exposed that Dean Nolan is a serial scammer.

Yeah he burned me on affiliate pay too for a HUGE whale i brought to his site that ended up losing 100s of BTC on the site the guys a selfish prick man he pretended to be cool

His feedback for on his forum user names pocketrocketcasino and betking clearly list people that were scammed when stole affiliate commission from them.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan has scammed winners of the 2018 Christmas wager out of 20 BTC +EV and also scammed ICO investors out of 30 million of the original 100 million BKB tokens which total $2.785 million at the guaranteed buy-back price. On top of that the other ICO funds he siphoned-off. The list goes on....

I am sorry serial scammer Dean Nolan scammed you too but it does not surprise me because he is a serial con-artist.

As a community we should all get together to expose all the scammers no matter where they are and no matter how much in USD$ terms the scam amounted to. We all should not let the scammers win and we all should protect newbies and gullible investors by highlighting the scams and scammers to them.

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July 11, 2019, 08:20:15 AM
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First, I am initially not so friendly of those threads against Betking since I am not knowing of the story at the begining and I only know of the existence of betking.io betting casino from information of those threads.

Tried to register an account and play around here and there, watching Telegram to find something might be good (or bad) by myself before going to deposit to play. So far no down side view upto today as I've got account login issue, complained on their Telegram, surprising that they've kick me out of the group.

To Betking.io: My words might be offensive since it locked my account, but you can't let the problem continue and not solving customer problem but kick him out for voicing.

To other users: If you are looking for alternative of freebitco.in or bitdice.me (high speed betting), you may re-consider regarding to this information given here.

To my bot group (from dlive) friends (Discord - dts): Stay away first, stick with bitdice.me.

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July 11, 2019, 08:40:57 AM
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First, I am initially not so friendly of those threads against Betking since I am not knowing of the story at the begining and I only know of the existence of betking.io betting casino from information of those threads.

Tried to register an account and play around here and there, watching Telegram to find something might be good (or bad) by myself before going to deposit to play. So far no down side view upto today as I've got account login issue, complained on their Telegram, surprising that they've kick me out of the group.

To Betking.io: My words might be offensive since it locked my account, but you can't let the problem continue and not solving customer problem but kick him out for voicing.

To other users: If you are looking for alternative of freebitco.in or bitdice.me (high speed betting), you may re-consider regarding to this information given here.

To my bot group (from dlive) friends (Discord - dts): Stay away first, stick with bitdice.me.

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yeah he is not a good person to deal with in general and not professional at all
he pmed me the ugliest possible words an admin can say to one of his regular players just because I pointed out in his thread that a poker site shouldn't be losing money
he was pissed cause I pointed out that his leaderboards are the reason that betking didn't make money with poker , and I was just posting facts so maybe he can bring poker back without offering a lot of extra money to his players

he raged a lot even though all what I was trying to do is helping him since none of his ICO promises were achieved


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July 11, 2019, 08:56:20 AM
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First, I am initially not so friendly of those threads against Betking since I am not knowing of the story at the begining and I only know of the existence of betking.io betting casino from information of those threads.

Tried to register an account and play around here and there, watching Telegram to find something might be good (or bad) by myself before going to deposit to play. So far no down side view upto today as I've got account login issue, complained on their Telegram, surprising that they've kick me out of the group.

To Betking.io: My words might be offensive since it locked my account, but you can't let the problem continue and not solving customer problem but kick him out for voicing.

To other users: If you are looking for alternative of freebitco.in or bitdice.me (high speed betting), you may re-consider regarding to this information given here.

To my bot group (from dlive) friends (Discord - dts): Stay away first, stick with bitdice.me.

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yeah he is not a good person to deal with in general and not professional at all
he pmed me the ugliest possible words an admin can say to one of his regular players just because I pointed out in his thread that a poker site shouldn't be losing money
he was pissed cause I pointed out that his leaderboards are the reason that betking didn't make money with poker , and I was just posting facts so maybe he can bring poker back without offering a lot of extra money to his players

he raged a lot even though all what I was trying to do is helping him since none of his ICO promises were achieved


I am not sure who did kicked me out, since there might be other than one account with that authority. But customer service should be the first priority if they want to gain the fame back, they might want to keep these nice words only, for the will of big investors may be? But you know that no business can success without satisfying their customers.

The group admins may have much sensitive with their enemies, but they can't be this way which including "angry" customers in their offensive/enemy list. Tell you what? Angry customers may be the most source of income, since they pretend to lose their mind easier, thus deep in the game easier, and as a result losing more, making more profits to the house.
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July 11, 2019, 06:42:25 PM
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I've come across a few shares of this service before, but I didn't send any money here because it didn't really interest me. On the other hand, if such a service is not a quality service, I do not send money because it is likely to be scam. It was a nice information headline that you created with your evidence, thank you.
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July 11, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
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First, I am initially not so friendly of those threads against Betking since I am not knowing of the story at the begining and I only know of the existence of betking.io betting casino from information of those threads.

Tried to register an account and play around here and there, watching Telegram to find something might be good (or bad) by myself before going to deposit to play. So far no down side view upto today as I've got account login issue, complained on their Telegram, surprising that they've kick me out of the group.

To Betking.io: My words might be offensive since it locked my account, but you can't let the problem continue and not solving customer problem but kick him out for voicing.

To other users: If you are looking for alternative of freebitco.in or bitdice.me (high speed betting), you may re-consider regarding to this information given here.

To my bot group (from dlive) friends (Discord - dts): Stay away first, stick with bitdice.me.

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It is a common them with serial scammer Dean Nolan to throw a tantrum and kick/ban users from the betking TG channel. He is like a baby, he cannot stand the thought of people questioning his business acumen (or lack of) and he cannot accept he is wrong.

If your were banned from their TG channel just because you informed them you could not login to your account then it shows you how petty and scandalous the whole situation is. Thankfully you have not missed much because betking and its serial scammer operator Dean Nolan are sinking fast. The site has almost zero users and very little in bets being placed.

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