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October 29, 2019, 10:12:45 AM
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Hey,

I would like to offer my service for every investor that allegedly lost his investment with BetKing.io. As for now, by reading the replies I understand Dean Nolan located in the UK. It is an easy task for me to hire a private investigator to track down dean and to start a legal case against him.

I do need to know how many investors want their money back and what was the investment amount. If at least 5 people will contact me, i will move forward to the next stage.


Agent.

Hi!
I lost about 0.0155 BTC, so maybe it is too small and it is not worth it. Count me in anyways.


And what is youe
They are not lying it is true

Did you receive any email identical to what the newbies claim?



yes and what the original poster  posted is what it contained

But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously.


Posting in the forum will not help you. Email if you have questions/balance

What is your email? I will personally contact you.
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October 29, 2019, 12:34:24 PM
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Why do you need to "track him down"?

If there is a case against him the police will do everything themselves. Serial scammer Dean Nolan does not need to be tracked down for any reason at all except if a criminal case for fraud and theft fails, in that case a civil case against him would be the route.

Investors should stop believing him about getting their funds back and should get together to report him to the UK Police because he is a compulsive liar.






Hey,

I would like to offer my service for every investor that allegedly lost his investment with BetKing.io. As for now, by reading the replies I understand Dean Nolan located in the UK. It is an easy task for me to hire a private investigator to track down dean and to start a legal case against him.

I do need to know how many investors want their money back and what was the investment amount. If at least 5 people will contact me, i will move forward to the next stage.

Agent.


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October 29, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
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@ BetKing scam

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You're a massive scammer yourself do not forget to pay anything you get from betking to your own victims.
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October 29, 2019, 04:16:35 PM
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Why do you need to "track him down"?

If there is a case against him the police will do everything themselves. Serial scammer Dean Nolan does not need to be tracked down for any reason at all except if a criminal case for fraud and theft fails, in that case a civil case against him would be the route.

Investors should stop believing him about getting their funds back and should get together to report him to the UK Police because he is a compulsive liar.

The problem is you can't prosecute someone for criminal actions, only the state can. And as Dean has calculated, the chance of prosecution is going to be pretty low. While reporting the crime is a good first step, in the past with similar situations absolutely nothing has come of it.

On the other hand, a civil case is something you can actually do yourself and pretty much guaranteed to win. The burden of proof is much lower, and there's no way Dean's going to waste his scammed funds on a lawyer, he'll just pay out that/those particular people and save himself the trouble.  So the only real issue is just to start a civil case, you need to serve him. I'm not sure about UK law, but generally you need to physically serve the documents to the person. Hence "tracking down" the person to serve them.

(So while it's a great idea, also be very very careful about pre-paying someone online to do it. You don't want to get scammed again...)


 
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October 29, 2019, 04:43:55 PM
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I also was not aware of a clone site, but who knows if it even existed? Could just be another confabulation. You bring up a great point on this... the hot wallet was constantly being refilled, how could he not notice these withdrawals. In addition, the bankrolls stated Betking was in the BLACK.

Even if there was a secret "clone site", it shows how hilariously dishonest Dean is. He's basically saying he risked peoples money to run a secret site, that he didn't want to cut them in on.

This is no different than DMF of dice.ninja who used investor/players money to gamble on other casinos (until eventually he epically busted on PrimeDice and lost it all). Then just went totally dark. And offered a few signed messages promising people who was going to make repayments (which he never did, of course).

Amazingly even though his identity was known, because of lack of any prosecution he managed to get away with embezzling millions of dollars. I guess Dean is hoping he can get away with the same fate.
It is rather amusing you say this as I have seen this happen on other dice/crypto gambling site before where another site owner comes on the site and is known by the owner while in the chat.
It is recognized immediately with the amount of the bitcoin they are wagering which is a extreme amount talking about 1 btc per round. And it known it from their own sites bankroll they are gambling with.
While on other crypto gambling site (not your former one) there was a user who had the name theymos Cheesy and they were doing just this. Betting 1 bitcoin per roll. There were several of the support people saying this was indeed theymos and I even think the site owner mentioned he believes it was him as he had an account opened since the site was unveiled several years ago.
This happened back in July so not to many people remember this happening but I think there was a post about here somewhere. Of course he didnt confirm or deny this was infact them or not. But there was a player who lost and this user transferred to them several bitcoins to inwhich everybody instantly said it was their alt account. Cheesy
It was a strange day to be on there to say the least. Undecided

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October 29, 2019, 04:56:28 PM
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I think the saddest part of this whole thing is that Dean who can't even be bothered to update the betking.io page with a little note of how he took their money, and how to contact him etc.  It's kind of like his final fuck-you to anyone who trusted him.

 

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While on other crypto gambling site (not your former one) there was a user who had the name theymos Cheesy and they were doing just this. Betting 1 bitcoin per roll. There were several of the support people saying this was indeed theymos and I even think the site owner mentioned he believes it was him as he had an account opened since the site was unveiled several years ago.

I remember this.  Grin But I'm pretty sure theymos said it wasn't him. Which I'd believe, as it wouldn't make sense for theymos to both use an account called "theymos" while denying it being him.


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October 29, 2019, 06:42:12 PM
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I think the saddest part of this whole thing is that Dean who can't even be bothered to update the betking.io page with a little note of how he took their money, and how to contact him etc.  It's kind of like his final fuck-you to anyone who trusted him.
That is extremely disgraceful conduct on his part but that is him down to the core. Everybody knows betking had almost zero traffic so there is no way he would put up a notice for registered users informing them of the alleged hack.



Why do you need to "track him down"?

If there is a case against him the police will do everything themselves. Serial scammer Dean Nolan does not need to be tracked down for any reason at all except if a criminal case for fraud and theft fails, in that case a civil case against him would be the route.

Investors should stop believing him about getting their funds back and should get together to report him to the UK Police because he is a compulsive liar.

The problem is you can't prosecute someone for criminal actions, only the state can. And as Dean has calculated, the chance of prosecution is going to be pretty low. While reporting the crime is a good first step, in the past with similar situations absolutely nothing has come of it.

On the other hand, a civil case is something you can actually do yourself and pretty much guaranteed to win. The burden of proof is much lower, and there's no way Dean's going to waste his scammed funds on a lawyer, he'll just pay out that/those particular people and save himself the trouble.  So the only real issue is just to start a civil case, you need to serve him. I'm not sure about UK law, but generally you need to physically serve the documents to the person. Hence "tracking down" the person to serve them.

(So while it's a great idea, also be very very careful about pre-paying someone online to do it. You don't want to get scammed again...)

My point is that before any civil action starts it is important to tell the Police because if there is a case to answer they will do everything and victims would not pay anything financially to prosecute. They will arrest and charge him (which is a pre-requisite) then the Court will pass judgement (guilty or not guilty) if he does not enter in to a plea. In the event of a Court case the judgement will include a criminal conviction (probable jail time) and him having all his assets seized to be sold off in order to try to reimburse all victims. If enough funds are raised to cover all victims then great, if victims do not get back all their investment then that would be the end, sadly. If there is clear evidence he is hiding his crypto in places which cannot be recovered because the convicted person is not co-operating then the Judge could add an extra order of judgement can be made which could add extra months or years added to the jail sentence.

Furthermore, if several months or years down the line the convict has assets or funds in his name or are suspected to be laundered but are in the name of someone else (bank account, property, car etc) then those could be seized at any time to help repay outstanding debt of the judgement. So transferring assets in to the name of other people will not help him.

The Proceed of Crime Act 2002 (UK Law) will ensure that if a criminal prosecution ever takes place serial scammer Dean Nolan will never ever sleep easy even after getting jail time and even after being released from prison after completing jail time because the criminal will always be liable to repay the full amount stated in the judgement.

If however after he is reported to the Police and after they investigate betking and serial scammer Dean Nolan they decide to not prosecute, only then should civil action be taken. All we all know victims will have to pay a lawyer in civil action. There is no need to track down serial scammer Dean Nolan to serve documents on him. When a lawyer decides to take the case on, they will apply to the Court to sue the thief and when the Court allows for it to happen an address is needed to serve him personally. The law firm will have a dedicated employee who serves documents. As for the address, there is no need for anybody to "search" or "track down". Several people already know how to obtain his current address legally.

I would be happy to provide his actual current address (sorry cannot say anything more than that right now) to the lawyer of any group willing taking civil action but there are conditions, for example there MUST be a report to the Police and they must be given time to investigate. The current address for serial scammer Dean Nolan will NOT be given to any victim of this hideous theft because I would not want it being made public on the count that there could be serious argument that maybe personal harm could come to him if a victim is seeking revenge outside the legal route.

Please do not get me wrong, I strongly despise serial scammer Dean Nolan because of the thefts and scams and frauds he conducted related to betking along with the condescending manner he treated users in this forum and for the utter contempt he showed to those interested in the issue - but I would never want to read any reports of vigilantism regarding this matter.

Before a civil Court case begins lawyers usually write to the defendant stating Court papers will be served if he does not settle the case which will be filed in 7, 14, 21 or 28 days. At that stage if serial scammer Dean Nolan has any part of his cerebral cortex is still functioning he would jump at the chance to settle without paying very expensive legal fees. If a civil case is to begin I will provide the UK lawyer (that has been instructed to represent them) with the current address of serial scammer Dean Nolan so the documents can be filed at the Court. In that process, the victims taking serial scammer Dean Nolan to Court will all receive copies before the case is filed for them to sign the document and consent. It is at that stage the victims will know his address but I would still advise and request to refrain from any form of vigilantism or illegal activity and allow the Court to follow due process. Having said that I cannot see serial scammer Dean Nolan being taken to Court in a civil prosecution because if he will be arrested and interviewed by the UK Police Cyber Crimes Unit he will probably will not be let off the hook. All it needs is a minimum of one victim to step forward to get process started.

To all victims of betking and serial scammer Dean Nolan, please allow the Court to take this matter forward in a criminal prosecution. A condition of judgement will include assets being seized so victims can get some or all of their investment back and will see him get jail time. A criminal prosecution allows victims to sit back and allow the Police and the Courts to deal with serial scammer Dean Nolan and that needs to be exhausted before anything related to a civil Court case should be discussed.

I would be happy to donate financially to pay for lawyers fees to start civil action but victims should now accept they have been duped by serial scammer Dean Nolan and he is buying time. They should start a plan of action to report him to the Police. I will personally help in this matter, I need just one victim to come forward and say they want him prosecuted that is all I need to get the ball rolling but so far it seems they are willing to give him time to repay them.

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October 29, 2019, 07:05:40 PM
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... serial scammer Dean Nolan ....

I think you need to write this a few more times, Google isn't ranking that term high enough.

Anyone with a brain cell can see what you are trying to do and how you have been doing it for over a year and a half. Conveniently a few weeks after I fired the SEO agency I was working with. Some coincidence that.

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I think you need to write this a few more times, Google isn't ranking that term high enough.

How about your remove your advertisements like your avatar and signature, your site is non existing anymore pal
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I think you need to write this a few more times, Google isn't ranking that term high enough.

How about your remove your advertisements like your avatar and signature, your site is non existing anymore pal

 Grin   The link diverts to: http://betking.io/?ref=btctalk

I think before Christmas 2019 serial scammer Dean Nolan will have a criminal prosecution against him.

Just one victim is all that is needed to get the UK Police to knock on his door and politely invite him to the Police station to interview him. After that the snowball effect will include jail time and seizure of assets to help return stolen funds to victims.

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Forum mods deleted my post where I said
"But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously."
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This place just censors everything I post
Don't lie (again) Dean! You just can't help playing the victim-card now can you? This link (archived just now) proves you're lying.

Modlog shows only one of your posts was deleted. I reported it saying "useless quote (his next post is probably what he tried to post here)". You can see your unedited post here
The post that got deleted was a useless quote without typing anything, followed by another post one minute later: this post.
I assume the second post was what you wanted to post, the first one was redundant.

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Forum mods deleted my post where I said
"But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously."

Absolute scum. Corrupt and promoting extortionists like JollyGood. That's why I didn't post any updates about BK on the forum and instead why I've been emailing people who had a balance.
This place just censors everything I post

Serial scammer Dean Nolan has zero evidence anybody tried to extort anything from him or from anybody else.

When he started losing his grip on reality after his betking scam was exposed he started throwing around the word extortion to garner sympathy but making accusations without proof shows how desperate he is.

Thankfully the UK has "The Proceed of Crime Act 2002" to take care of scammers like him by using Courts and prison to deal with them.

Pathetic  Roll Eyes





I wonder who this thread is for?

It's not for ICO token holders. I speak with most of them on Telegram. They understood what they were investing in and know it's not a scam, in fact, many people are happy with the roi so far and the huge improvements being made on the site.

This is just a thread for a bunch of idiots who were not in the ico, have no intention of ever owning tokens, who don't know anything about BetKing or the ICO or how businesses work.

Just people who refused to listen to the answers I gave a hundred times and instead chose to listen to a bitter, jealous moron who has had hatred towards me and BetKing for almost 5 years.

So yeah, the thread is locked due to trolls and people incapable of listening to me. I'll unlock to post updates now and again. Though bitcointalk isn't where we get most our audience so not sure how frequently.

Have fun in here speculating and posting shit you have no clue about. It doesn't affect BetKing or investors.

The betking Telegram was killed off in the run up to serial scammer Dean Nolan stealing over 50 BTC and blaming it on an imaginary hack. He did not want investors to communicate to each other after the "hack" otherwise inevitably talk of legal action would be at the forefront.

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Forum mods deleted my post where I said
"But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously."

Absolute scum. Corrupt and promoting extortionists like JollyGood. That's why I didn't post any updates about BK on the forum and instead why I've been emailing people who had a balance.
This place just censors everything I post


Serial scammer Dean Nolan has zero evidence anybody tried to extort anything from him or from anybody else.

When he started losing his grip on reality after his betking scam was exposed he started throwing around the word extortion to garner sympathy but making accusations without proof shows how desperate he is.

Pathetic  Roll Eyes

You started a year and a half long smear campaign against me and BetKing 3 weeks after I fired the SEO company that was working with us. Conveniently ALL your posts are written with SEO intent and made more for Google than human readers. It's why you constantly post my name along with serial scammer, every single time. You have tried to use this forums domain rating to get that search term at the top of Google. You know it can take 6-18 months for Google to rank keywords on front page.

Very convenient that as soon as it was ranking that the same SEO company wouldn't stop calling me to suddenly help clean the rankings up.

Keep in mind you started before we had stopped the BKB buybacks. 6 months before there was any issues with BetKing. No one had posted scam claims at all.

So what was your motive there? Also posting multiple times a day for over a year had to have been financially motivated because there's no one that sad to do it for free.
You hoped I would re-hire your team to help get rid of the bad rep obviously.


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Forum mods deleted my post where I said
"But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously."

Absolute scum. Corrupt and promoting extortionists like JollyGood. That's why I didn't post any updates about BK on the forum and instead why I've been emailing people who had a balance.
This place just censors everything I post


Serial scammer Dean Nolan has zero evidence anybody tried to extort anything from him or from anybody else.

When he started losing his grip on reality after his betking scam was exposed he started throwing around the word extortion to garner sympathy but making accusations without proof shows how desperate he is.

Pathetic  Roll Eyes

You started a year and a half long smear campaign against me and BetKing 3 weeks after I fired the SEO company that was working with us. Conveniently ALL your posts are written with SEO intent and made more for Google than human readers. It's why you constantly post my name along with serial scammer, every single time. You have tried to use this forums domain rating to get that search term at the top of Google. You know it can take 6-18 months for Google to rank keywords on front page.

Very convenient that as soon as it was ranking that the same SEO company wouldn't stop calling me to suddenly help clean the rankings up.

Keep in mind you started before we had stopped the BKB buybacks. 6 months before there was any issues with BetKing. No one had posted scam claims at all.

So what was your motive there? Also posting multiple times a day for over a year had to have been financially motivated because there's no one that sad to do it for free.
You hoped I would re-hire your team to help get rid of the bad rep obviously.


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What an imbecile. Now you cook up another story to detract from the facts such as Loyce pointing serial scammer Dean Nolan is a liar, moderators did not delete any of his posts that had any substance in them.

Now in the space of minutes he make an allegation he never made before ever since July 2017 which was when I started warning people that he will scam them and the ICO was a tool for him getting rich off the back of investors. Serial scammer Dean Nolan is now posting that I was (unbelievably) employed by betking and that he gave me the sack  Grin

I never have and never will work for any scammer. He cited SEO. This third-rate low level coder serial scammer Dean Nolan needed an SEO expert to help promote the betking scam? Now I heard it all.

Anyway, going back to the original issue about victims being scammed, here is something I posted recently:




This forum and its users are not to blame for the demise of betking. The person to blame for its demise is serial scammer Dean Nolan.



Users from the forum did not create and conduct the 2017 betking ICO

Users from the forum did not receive $6.5 million in the 2017 ICO (more than 1000 BTC, 4500 ETH and 850 LTC)

Users from the forum did not steal a minimum of 30 million BKB from the 100 million BKB created in the ICO

Users from the forum did not steal $3.25+ million from the $6.5 million raised in the 2017 betking ICO

Users from the forum did not siphon-off BKB tokens under the guise of paying for the website upkeep

Users from the forum did not break every promise the ICO was based on. No new games, no development, no marketing team, no customer services team, nothing

Users from the forum did not steal over 500 BTC and over 2250 ETH and over 425 LTC from the bankroll to buy back tokens leaving the $3.25 million bankroll near empty

Users from the forum did not promise to keep 50% of the ICO funds exclusively for the bankroll - only to renege thus making betking worth next to nothing

Users from the forum did not promise to use 50% of all funds for "marketing, promotions, SEO, design development, server costs and legal" only to siphon-off those funds

Users from the forum did not guarantee a BKB minimum buy-back rate of $0.09286 + any profit, only to renege

Users from the forum did not scam winners of the 2018 Christmas wager which left legitimate winners out of pocket to the tune of 20 BTC +EV, blaming imaginary "cheating"

Users from the forum did not steal the Crash gaming code which would have cost a licence fee of 2 BTC payable to its rightful owner (devans)

Users from the forum did not try to sell betking and failed on several occasions after the ICO

Users from the forum did not try to convert BKB tokens to "bitsafe" tokens in November 2017 by attempting to close down betking and open "bitsafe exchange" hoping to raise $10 million from another scam ICO

Users from the forum did not lie to RHavar with the aim of try to dupe him in to buying large scale BKB when betking was sinking

Users from the forum did not convert BKB tokens to EOS BKT tokens and add more ownership to serial scammer Dean Nolan

Users from the forum did not shut down the betking Telegram which was a move to stop investors talking to each other after talk of possible legal action began going around

Users from the forum did not claim they lost approximately 50 BTC or $400,000 of investors money by conveniently blaming an imaginary website hack

Users from the forum did not conveniently transfer 50+ BTC from a cold wallet to a hot wallet just before the imaginary website hack took place



The fault for the demise of the betking website is firmly with serial scammer Dean Nolan. His initial greed to get rich followed by his out-and-out theft of investor funds make him a criminal waiting to be arrested.





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Serial scammer Dean Nolan is going to jail because he is a low-life scammer, a modern day thief.

The Proceed of Crime Act (2002) is going to ensure he gets several years in jail and when he is released he will have zero assets, zero money just as he deserves.

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October 29, 2019, 11:24:26 PM
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Why do you need to "track him down"?

If there is a case against him the police will do everything themselves. Serial scammer Dean Nolan does not need to be tracked down for any reason at all except if a criminal case for fraud and theft fails, in that case a civil case against him would be the route.

Investors should stop believing him about getting their funds back and should get together to report him to the UK Police because he is a compulsive liar.






Hey,

I would like to offer my service for every investor that allegedly lost his investment with BetKing.io. As for now, by reading the replies I understand Dean Nolan located in the UK. It is an easy task for me to hire a private investigator to track down dean and to start a legal case against him.

I do need to know how many investors want their money back and what was the investment amount. If at least 5 people will contact me, i will move forward to the next stage.

Agent.



Need to track him down since with $6M you can easily disappear & change your identity.
Case won't help to get the investors money back.
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October 29, 2019, 11:26:04 PM
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You started a year and a half long smear campaign against me and BetKing 3 weeks after I fired the SEO company that was working with us. Conveniently ALL your posts are written with SEO intent and made more for Google than human readers. It's why you constantly post my name along with serial scammer, every single time. You have tried to use this forums domain rating to get that search term at the top of Google. You know it can take 6-18 months for Google to rank keywords on front page.

Very convenient that as soon as it was ranking that the same SEO company wouldn't stop calling me to suddenly help clean the rankings up.

Keep in mind you started before we had stopped the BKB buybacks. 6 months before there was any issues with BetKing. No one had posted scam claims at all.

So what was your motive there? Also posting multiple times a day for over a year had to have been financially motivated because there's no one that sad to do it for free.
You hoped I would re-hire your team to help get rid of the bad rep obviously.

Quoted, as this is gold. "You kept calling me a scammer 6 months before I started scamming. Therefore there must be a conspiracy against me"
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October 30, 2019, 07:24:08 AM
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Need to track him down since with $6M you can easily disappear & change your identity.
Case won't help to get the investors money back.

There is no need to track him down. Several people already know his current address and that is all that is required to have legal documents served on him but there is no need to do anything like that because once the Police are involved they will not let him off the hook. They will arrest him, they will charge him with various counts of theft and fraud and he will go to jail.

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October 30, 2019, 10:05:49 AM
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Need to track him down since with $6M you can easily disappear & change your identity.
Case won't help to get the investors money back.

There is no need to track him down. Several people already know his current address and that is all that is required to have legal documents served on him but there is no need to do anything like that because once the Police are involved they will not let him off the hook. They will arrest him, they will charge him with various counts of theft and fraud and he will go to jail.

No they won't.

Things are not working like that in scotland. Police kinda careless when it comes to bitcoin offenses. As sad as it sounds, this is the truth.
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October 30, 2019, 10:28:55 AM
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Need to track him down since with $6M you can easily disappear & change your identity.
Case won't help to get the investors money back.

There is no need to track him down. Several people already know his current address and that is all that is required to have legal documents served on him but there is no need to do anything like that because once the Police are involved they will not let him off the hook. They will arrest him, they will charge him with various counts of theft and fraud and he will go to jail.

No they won't.

Things are not working like that in scotland. Police kinda careless when it comes to bitcoin offenses. As sad as it sounds, this is the truth.


Can we agree to disagree as far as UK Police Cyber Crime Unit is concerned?

As far as spending money for "tracking down" serial scammer Dean Nolan is concerned it is not necessary, I will personally give his current address to a UK based law firm (so they can file a case) after they have been appointed by victims of the betking crime if they follow a civil route but before any civil action is to start they should report the matter to the Police. Yes, some people in the forum already know his current address.

I have offered my services free of charge to help collate evidence and present it to the Police.

I am willing to donate money to help pay for a UK lawyer as long as victims donate too but the Police must be told first and they must be given time to investigate.

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