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Author Topic: jeremypwr Bitcasino.io and Sportsbet.io Extortion, Ponzi promoting, scammer  (Read 1084 times)
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August 01, 2018, 07:24:51 AM
Last edit: August 08, 2018, 12:03:57 PM by WaffleMaster
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Edits: 1) It is not entitlement if the manager agrees to fix everything and bring it back to normal before his error that lead to reduced pay and being kicked out of the campaign does not follow through with his agreement, which is in writing.

2) About blackmailing. This user says it perfectly.


It's not blackmailing when you tell someone you'll open a scam accusation. If there's no reason for that accusation, there shouldn't be anything to fear. Right?

Jeremypwr on the other hand is clearly blackmailing by threatening to not pay what was agreed on if something (which is even unrelated to the payment) is not done in time.


I'll get your attention with this, but this gets pretty lengthy so please read through it all thoroughly.




To start off, I am not necessarily opening a scam accusation for being kicked out of the campaign (even though it was in error of the campaign manager).

What happened::
The campaign managers miss-counted daily posts and kicked me out of the campaign, shorting my payment as well. Then he proceeded to try and do a cover up by extorting the money that I am owed if I did not delete posts. Cry Cry Cry

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137185

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4794752.msg43253496#msg43253496

Amount Scammed:
Campaign would have totaled $960. Actual amount was .0108 - .015 so 0.0042 for first week of campaign

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:
Not yet sent I don't think. He's extorting me now.

PM/Chat Logs:
All of his PMS Pictures https://imgur.com/a/4bbfcCJ

All of my PMS Pictures https://imgur.com/a/5lpND7Q
In the Bitcasino Signature thread, I have asked you to submit a new BTC deposit address (not a Bitcasino.io address).

Please post the new address in the official thread.

I will need this from you today if you would like to be paid and remain in the Campaign.

Thanks
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Nice of you to absolutely blow this out of proportion, even though you are in the wrong.

I can remove anyone from my Campaign for whatever reason I choose; I don't even have to explain why.

For your case, you made 12 posts in a 24 hour span, which is AGAINST THE RULES.  Maybe had you read them, you wouldn't be in the place you are now.

So stop with all the immature drama, these Campaigns help participants pay bills.  And I will be forced to stop offering Signature Campaigns if this childish nonsense from you doesn't end intimidate.

Then to make matters worse for you, you send me a PM threatening me that you will report me ( Cry) if I don't pay you what you're owed.

You're lucky that I'm even CONSIDERING sending you .0108 because on top of not following the rules, you are attempting to slander myself and Sportsbet.

My Campaigns with Sportsbet have paid out thousands of dollars to participants in the past few months ALONE.

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I made a mistake.

Please delete all of your negative posts, and I'll get ya paid today.

My apologies.
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Yes, Amends
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You need to delete all of the last posts you made.
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Please do it NOW
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If your posts aren't gone in the next 5 minutes, you won't be getting any payment.
And you can file as many "scam reports" as you'd like.
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You'll get your payment.  That was my mistake.
But you won't be participating anymore in my Campaigns.

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Excuse me, but you're getting what you wanted.   Payment for 25 posts.

So now because I'm removing you from my Campaign (even after being fully paid), you're going back on your word and re-opening something that I already admitted I was wrong.  

Trust me bro I can report you for extortion and threats just as easily as you can.


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You're just upset that I booted you from the Campaign.
You're too much of a jerk to ever be allowed in my Campaigns again.
I can also rest assure you that I have many friends on here who manage campaigns, and they will all see your work.

You are a big drama queen.

I don't think I even should have to pay you, and your threads of reporting me don't worry me at all.

If I were to pay you, you'd repost your shit and cry foul.


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Now mine: I will order these to be read as they were sent later.
Ok I put in a new address on the thread.
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Why was I removed from the campaign?
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Btctalk name: WaffleMaster
Rank: Hero
Bitcasino.io BTC Wallet Address: 38sLeBE2MCgAVtvByf5YXHDuWyf1NRKRHw
Wear Appropriate Signature: yes
Wear Personal Text: Yes
Wear Avatar:  Yes

Accepted!

Unfortunately, WaffleMaster has to be removed from the Signature Campaign.
You have given no reason of why I'm being removed. I replied to your PM of needing a new address within hours. You only credit me with 18 posts for the week? My last post was:
Different websites have different variables and elements that need to be loaded into the program. So it's pretty reasonable to assume that it won't work very well or at all for other websites. You'll likely need separate programs for that.
Which is in the time frame, and perhaps I miss counted and only have 24 posts for the week 24-31 July 3AM EST. But to only credit 18 is a big mistake by you and verifiable as false by looking at my post history. If I'm kicked out of the campaign for not meeting the deadline by 1 post because I confused the UTC time of the forums with EST that's fine. Waiting for your response.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just made a mistake in not paying me appropriately, and then removing me from the campaign in error because you believe I only have 18 posts instead of the.

You will have 24 hours to respond and correct the error or a scam accusation will be opened up on your name and campaign for shorting me payment.
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I'm just writing to let you know I may be frustrated that I was kicked out because of your miss-count of my posts, but I am willing to make amends, delete everything and continue as normal should everything be made right. I participated exactly as stated in the rules.
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The campaign ends in EST time. The forum shows my posts daily are not exceeding 8. IF you do not recognize forum time for counting posts daily like everybody else, it should be stated in the rules. Your rules do not state otherwise. Since you have now formally responded, threatening to not even pay what you think I am owed (reality is 25 posts) I am forced to open a scam accusation against you for shorting me.

These will be included, along with extremely more detailed information.
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Ok, thank you for understanding.
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Yep all gone. I was archiving them and had twice as many to go through as you.
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Ok I'm reopening them to further warn people of your campaign practices.
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I'm just writing to let you know I may be frustrated that I was kicked out because of your miss-count of my posts, but I am willing to make amends, delete everything and continue as normal should everything be made right. I participated exactly as stated in the rules.

Everything is not made right, you are continuing to discharge me even after acknowledging your error. And now you threaten false reports. Unbelievable to be honest. Good thing these are archived and 100% proof.
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And by the way it's not extortion, you wanted me to delete everything because you agreed to make everything all right. And then you proceeded to go back on your word. So now there's also that. Quite a predicament you've created for yourself with the initial error and now all these threats, lies and going back on your word.
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If your posts aren't gone in the next 5 minutes, you won't be getting any payment.
And you can file as many "scam reports" as you'd like.
YOU EXTORTED ME FOR SERVICES I ALREADY RENDERED
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If that's how you feel. I'm afraid now with your extortion and intimidation of holding funds I can't keep quiet about this and must post it. I have done nothing wrong, you've made all the errors and extortion. I simply wanted things to go back to normal.
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Additional Notes:
This is despicable and I am shocked that something like this has happened to me. I just wanted everything to go back to normal after he acknowledged the mistake and we were making amends and everything will be made right. But now look as he is going back on the agreement made.

PS: Oh and about me thinking I had 24 posts, it was because I did subtraction from 30-6 to get 24. When I individually counted there was 25 posts in the time frame specified by the rules.
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August 01, 2018, 07:37:42 AM
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You got booted for threatening me with blackmail.

That if I dropped you from my Campaign, you would re-open your scam accusations (even after I agreed to pay you and you deleted them).

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August 01, 2018, 07:48:51 AM
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The rules by the way was "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count" as stated here in the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4737831.msg42786246#msg42786246

I'm not sure if its true that you posted 12 within 24 hours, but if it is then that I guess can be the basis of you being removed from the campaign. The manager already paid you by the way. I see you both blackmailed each other if you call it blackmail. Smiley


 

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August 01, 2018, 07:52:22 AM
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The rules by the way was "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count" as stated here in the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4737831.msg42786246#msg42786246

I'm not sure if its true that you posted 12 within 24 hours, but if it is then that I guess can be the basis of you being removed from the campaign. The manager already paid you by the way. I see you both blackmailed each other if you call it blackmail. Smiley


 


I admitted I miscounted, there's a first for everything!

What REALLY happened:
The campaign managers miss-counted daily posts.  After I apologized, said he would be paid, I then decided to boot him. 
In fact, I even waited for him to be the last person to submit his BTC address so I COULD PAY HIM!

For this guy to say I had no intentions of paying him is absolutely ridiculous.




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August 01, 2018, 07:53:34 AM
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Why would I even want to pay this person after all this bullshit he has created?
He was going to get paid! 
I was waiting on his BTC deposit address.
When I had it, I then booted him.
What did I do wrong?
He is blowing my messages out of proportion and is a drama queen.

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August 01, 2018, 08:04:39 AM
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Here's his post from earlier, where he thanked me for reminding him.

He seemed genuinely thankful for my help:




So, I am asking for his BTC address to pay him.

He has now turned it around that I am extorting him and all this other nonsense, when the matter of fact is that I booted him from my Campaign cause he's annoying.

He will get his pay for doing his work; I always pay my participants.



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August 01, 2018, 08:08:24 AM
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The rules by the way was "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count" as stated here in the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4737831.msg42786246#msg42786246

I'm not sure if its true that you posted 12 within 24 hours, but if it is then that I guess can be the basis of you being removed from the campaign. The manager already paid you by the way. I see you both blackmailed each other if you call it blackmail. Smiley


 

He already agreed it was his error in counting. And I will post pictures of my posts just to walk people through it. Please edit your comment appropriately if the new pictures provide insight.
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August 01, 2018, 08:09:01 AM
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You got booted for threatening me with blackmail.

That if I dropped you from my Campaign, you would re-open your scam accusations (even after I agreed to pay you and you deleted them).
That is simply not true, I posted all of our private messages. Post proof if you have it of me stating those things
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August 01, 2018, 08:20:25 AM
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The rules by the way was "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count" as stated here in the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4737831.msg42786246#msg42786246

I'm not sure if its true that you posted 12 within 24 hours, but if it is then that I guess can be the basis of you being removed from the campaign. The manager already paid you by the way. I see you both blackmailed each other if you call it blackmail. Smiley


 


I admitted I miscounted, there's a first for everything!

What REALLY happened:
The campaign managers miss-counted daily posts.  After I apologized, said he would be paid, I then decided to boot him.  
In fact, I even waited for him to be the last person to submit his BTC address so I COULD PAY HIM!

For this guy to say I had no intentions of paying him is absolutely ridiculous.












Admitting he was going to withhold payment

"I don't think I should have to pay you"

"I was going to pay you"

So he wasn't going to pay me. Anything else you want to take out of context? I put all the pictures up of our conversation in picture and text form. You lying about what I say and you say simply is just more scamming trying to go on.
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August 01, 2018, 08:24:44 AM
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Yeah, for the last time, you took it out of context.

You are getting your money, what the hell else do you want?

Oh that's right, to be back in my Campaign.

Well, you can forget about that.

Nothing else you say matters at this point.

Goodbye

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August 01, 2018, 08:46:35 AM
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Yeah, for the last time, you took it out of context.

You are getting your money, what the hell else do you want?

Oh that's right, to be back in my Campaign.

Well, you can forget about that.

Nothing else you say matters at this point.

Goodbye
You agreed to make everything right, which includes putting me back in the campaign and now you are not going to do with what you agreed to. That is scamming $900.



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August 01, 2018, 08:50:12 AM
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Your sense of entitlement is sickening and for the 100th time, I don't owe you anything, including paying you for participating in my anymore of my Campaigns.

I booted you for, among other reasons, the fact that I added someone who is a better poster than you.

I'm so sorry, but that's just how it works.

I dropped you (Hero) and added a Legendary Member, who also happens to be more reliable then you.


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August 01, 2018, 08:52:55 AM
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One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."

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August 01, 2018, 09:03:00 AM
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One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."
You admitted fault and agreed to "make everything right". Then you proceed to scam me from having everything right by removing me from the campaign, which is $840 in potential earnings. You lied about making everything right after agreeing to it, which is scamming. And the total amount is $840 in potential earnings, which I would have received because I was always compliant with the rules.





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Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."
You are throwing those words around. You think I was blackmailing you because I was waiting 24 hours to give you time to fix the scam of only paying me for 18 posts instead of 25. Anybody can read it and see I wasn't threatening you but giving you time to read the message. People need to sleep and work, so that is very fair.
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No one got scammed in this situation. Admission of error and paid what is to be paid.

You were trying to delete all those messed up messages in the thread of course, its a marketing job I can understand that because you are trying to market the casino site.

$840 in potential earnings Smiley I can also understand why WaffleMaster wants to be in the campaign but the damage has been done already wit this accusation threads, terminating his participation in the campaign I guess wouldn't be undo  too. You both give each other negative trust. All that's left is to go on with your lives now.

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No one got scammed in this situation. Admission of error and paid what is to be paid.

You were trying to delete all those messed up messages in the thread of course, its a marketing job I can understand that because you are trying to market the casino site.

$840 in potential earnings Smiley I can also understand why WaffleMaster wants to be in the campaign but the damage has been done already wit this accusation threads, terminating his participation in the campaign I guess wouldn't be undo  too. You both give each other negative trust. All that's left is to go on with your lives now.

Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.

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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.
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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

No one is scamming you.  And I never said you were committed to my Campaign for 7 weeks.

You must not know how Campaigns work, cause that's not how it goes.   Sorry to break it to you....

Fact is, I don't owe you a damn thing if I don't want to pay you to be in my Campaign for 7 weeks.

And no one will be accepting you into any more Campaigns on this forum, that's for sure  Wink

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August 01, 2018, 10:02:48 AM
Last edit: August 01, 2018, 10:29:32 AM by WaffleMaster
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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

No one is scamming you.  And I never said you were committed to my Campaign for 7 weeks.

You must not know how Campaigns work, cause that's not how it goes.   Sorry to break it to you....

Fact is, I don't owe you a damn thing if I don't want to pay you to be in my Campaign for 7 weeks.

And no one will be accepting you into any more Campaigns on this forum, that's for sure  Wink



Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.

And again, your straw man argument. You agreed to fix everything about the error you made in miscounting the posts which resulted in lesser payment and me being kicked from the campaign. You did not, and that is a scam on an agreement you made, which is written and documented.

You taunting me constantly is not a very good look for your companies that paid you to run things, and look how you run them. You run them into the ground with improper management of campaigns and scams. I would be as petty as you and say that your days as a campaign manager are very effected by this too, but I won't, because I'm honestly not going down morally to insult you like you have tried to insult me.

One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."

These might clarify things!





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August 01, 2018, 10:44:43 AM
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You are saying that you have decided not to let him/her into any of your campaigns? Why are you arguing then? You pay them for their posts and say you are out, There is nothing more to this.

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