Is this a new form of manipulation?

[yesyes18]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did )
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

[marn6767]

manipulation is definitely there. But people are starting to panic right away and the market is going downhill. In this panic sale, too, some people add fortune to their wealth. These are the main reasons for this situation. Now, everyone is longing for the green light for the bull season and hopefully this light will light up as soon as possible.

[Radio-Active]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did )
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

I don't know it either. But if the value of crypto increasing or decreasing much in the market, then there must be something occurred here.
Peoples who own crypto in a massive amount could manipulate the market, the possibility is quite high. Crypto is very unpredictable

[pooya87]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now.

a couple of things here.
if you look at the altcoin history of the past years you can see that the pump and dump phases of  altcoins is perfectly normal and  it was expected for them to have a "pumping season" that is long and we had in 2017 and the a "dumping season" which we are having now like always.

as for leaving, if you thought about it then it means your motivations in the start were wrong and the routes you took were wrong. you either bought bitcoin because you wanted this great technology and the freedom of decentralization in which case leaving because price went down is meaningless or you choose bitcoin and altcoins to trade and make money which again makes leaving meaningless because in this case you have to know how to trade and if you know that then you still are making profit! and if you are not then you were fooling yourself all this time.

Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought.

not completely opposite. as i said the "dumping season" was perfectly expected out of altcoins as they have it nearly every year. and the big ass drop in bitcoin was also expected since the rise was huge to $20k and it was a bubble. maybe it wasn't expected that it takes this long and this low but a drop was expected.

Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley.

we never expected bitcoin to rise because of the things you listed below. most of them the Chinese thing were even during the start of drop which couldn't just reverse things!
and the Coinbase things were altcoins being listed and THOSE altcoins were pumped as expected!

there is always traces of manipulation in every rise and fall but the general direction that the market is going is unchangeable.

[Madara_Uchiha]

At the current time of market manipulation, crypto-currencies are quite common, which scares off large investors.

[sehoon]

I am not sure but my speculation is there is also a form of manipulation on going in the market. But some of the people don't trust their coins and just dump them right away because they are just tired of waiting and I think that is going to be bad. I still believe that bitcoin is gonna go green anytime soon and as well as the altcoins.

[Leo Barnes]

I don't think that you listed is the new form of manipulation Chinese new year is the event that Chinese is celebrated every year I don't think that is another way of manipulation and it is normal for coinbase to list a new token as long as they meet the requirement.

[Alns]

I heard a theory like that because it seems like EFT should not have so significantly and Powerful effect on the Bitcoin price, and more than that it has ruined all the alternative cryptocurrency which is completely amazing.

[Ms.Anna]

Manipulations prevent the transparent formation of the value of digital coins. Even the European Banking Office was interested in this problem, which recommended starting to combat abuses in the market and to achieve maximum transparency of data on digital coin prices.

[acheampong64]

I don't think that you listed is the new form of manipulation Chinese new year is the event that Chinese is celebrated every year I don't think that is another way of manipulation and it is normal for coinbase to list a new token as long as they meet the requirement.

I don't know but I think you're getting the OP wrong. The things listed there are not what it's being used to manipulate but OP meant (well, in my opinion) manipulators have now got a new way by using those mechanisms. As in, they make you think the opposite way while they, change all the market fundamentals.

I side with the OP somehow because when ETF was first rejected some weeks ago, we all thought a dump was going to happen but it didn't, BTC even went higher for some days before dropping. Now, a second hearing is coming and look at what's happening to the market.

[tazmannia]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did )
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

Yes, you are right, many of the news you are talking about, very much contributed to the rise in the price of bitcoin. However, you have not mentioned the news that many ignore. Vitaly Buterin (foundation ETH) proposed to introduce a system of vouchers or prepaid cards of a certain denomination. For example, 100$ or 5$/ You buy the card enter the value in the specified application or the wallet and your balance is replenished to a required amount amount of cryptocoins on the current exchange rate. 100$ - price 1ETH 400$ - you will have on the balance of 0.25 ETH

[taiwww]

I see no other reason but the market manipulation only. I suspect that this is being done so that big players now can make their entry into it. Otherwise why there was any need of this if the market already dipped down below for over 6 months and then it also starts moving back to higher prices. Now there is huge dump we are in currently and this is surely only one thing, manipulation so that those who left behind will be jumping in. Who knows there are many more groups of whales who wants the way in and they are manipulating it at different time to stay safe. 

[talkbitcoin]

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way.

first of all, all the things you listed are only speculation or in other words opinion of some people. if you chose to blindly believe and follow it and fail then it is your fault because nobody forced you to believe in them!

secondly as i said these are speculation. for example the Chinese thing, some people were saying because people are selling to go to Chinese holidays bitcoin price is falling. if you look at my post history i said it doesn't make any sense and it did not. which is why price didn't go down that much during that time and also it didn't recover afterwards.

same with ETF. right now one group is saying bitcoin will go to the moon with ETF that SEC is going to approve. another group is saying it won't be approved and price will fall and some ... it is up to you to believe in which speculation and see which the market is following.

[EVOS]

I'm also still confused, is this just a temporary manipulation, with the aim of lowering the prices of Bitcoin and Altcoin to be low then they will buy them in large quantities, or this is really a decrease because the market is less conducive.

[cryptohunter]

come on with all the adoption and good/much needed regulations and reasonable taxation bitcoin is gearing up for mainstream

selling now is what they want you to do.

17M coins can only ever exist (4M suspected gone forever)

You have an entire bitcoin now it could be all you need for retirement ... or could go to zero

Is it worth selling for a shitty 6k USD?

Hold and quit worrying or smarter people accumulate as much as you can afford without borrowing.

[mikyadel]

of course manipulation is there by new companies which are trying to enter the market at a good price .Moreover, bitcoin last year reached level most people didn't imagine it could be possibly reached and market was overbought , so what we are seeing this year is normal and heavy correction that happen in every market .
soon this will end and price will rise again and maybe pass its ATH.

[DrGuns4Hands]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did )
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

Indeed, there are manipulations in the market that are being played by certain group of people. They can provide the market its price to go up or went down. Thus, being the reason of red market again, why? Investors are no ignorant, they see that market are manipulated then they also would not risk the market to put-in their investment. Further, the market continuously slowing; thus, it might be that one of its reason could possibly the manipulation. In contrary to the statement, manipulation may also give the market  a control over unanticipated activity. Moreover, groups can make certain ideas as to when they can go for up or when will they not. Consequently, controling the market investment...

[Alpacera]

There is definately lot's of manipulation on the market. We hear some bullish news lately but the prices keep dropping.

[iv4n]

There is definately lot's of manipulation on the market. We hear some bullish news lately but the prices keep dropping.

I believe that bitcoin is a new technology, what happens on the market is not new, it has been done before many times. It`s economy, it`s marketplace you can trade with cars, stocks or crypto, when a product is on the market it moves depending on marketplace laws. What keeps me here is new technology that will find a way to people, I don`t care much about manipulations, whales do what they know to do, like always many small fishes follow them and fight for leftovers, let them do what they wish to do. I`m interested in technology behind, and I believe it`s something good for entire world. Path to the top will be rough, but we can make it to there, we have a good directions and that`s all that`s matters, everything else is speculation, people try to make more profit and they don`t care what they use as long as they are satisfied, I`m not that person.

[freightjoe]

The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did )
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

Stop blaiming all sorts of external factors. The development is very simple - everytime someone sits down and performs a solid analysis they conclude that the Bitcoin fever is over. The ATH at 20.000$ made sure that everyone who would ever want to get into Bitcoin also did go into Bitcoin. There are no new investors to pull in. And as more and more owners of Bitcoin begin to realize it will never get truly back up, they are leaving. Thena few HODL'ers pick up at the dip causing a small increase - but every increase also gets to a lower and lower peak. This is a long slow spiral down, and the sooner you leave the smaller the loss you have to suffer.