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August 10, 2018, 11:47:54 AM |
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Lately, we've seen that investing in crowdsales are no longer profitable due to ICO's favouring VCs and private investors. These set of investors receive heavy bonuses with almost no lock up periods at all. Consequently, they dump these tokens at listing on exchanges and crash the prices below the ICO price, resulting in big losses for smaller investors. As a result, it's difficult to make 5x - 10x from ICO price anymore.
As an investor, one of the best ways to curb this and make ICO's more profitable again is to focus on crowdsales. You have to make a conscious decision to invest in only projects with good lock up periods for VC's and private investors. These lock up periods is what guarantees that the guys with big bonuses don't dump on us. A project with good and experienced team, working product, good token metrics, use case, and considerable lock up periods for VCs and private investor should ordinarily do well in the market.
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August 10, 2018, 12:09:38 PM |
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Investing in ICO, in many cases, is a long-term investment. We can not expect for a quick profit after ICO when listing on exchanges. They locked up the token to ensure their price. And sure enough, the token's price will depend on their development of the project, and the capital fund behind them.
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I think Menlo One can change things in favor of retail investors. Even better, it helps eliminate scams and places the spotlight on legit projects with its decentralized proof of reputation system. link to their site and Whitepaper: https://www.menlo.one/
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August 10, 2018, 09:38:06 PM |
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In my opinion, first, don't expect too much. do not make sure it will profit 5x or 10x, just target 2x profit. all of this so that we do not expect too much, because market conditions are not conducive. after that you have to be smart to choose a good ICO and can find hardcap.
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August 10, 2018, 09:42:07 PM |
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I believe that is what should happen. Lock it up. Whales are trying to feed on those little investors which believes in the project. Rules should be made if they really want a successful ICO.
Problem here is if they see even just 10 percent of profit their out. Afterwards, how are they going to get another investor that will spend that much money seeing it had been manipulated already.
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August 10, 2018, 09:50:15 PM |
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The lock up period is essential but will put off many investors from buying in bulk and project managers will want to gain as many bitcoins / ethereum as they can get their hands on. Good to see that pre-sale investors are being recognised as responsible for dumping, usually bounty hunters get incorrectly blamed.
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August 10, 2018, 09:52:49 PM |
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I think this is the problem with the crypto community. Everyone focusing on "profitability" rather than actual project development. People just invest thinking it's a get rich quick scheme but never actually looking at the underlying technology and how it can be incorporated into real world use cases.
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August 10, 2018, 09:54:13 PM |
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The projects with good lock up periods for VC's and private investors, will not be generally interesting for these investors ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 10, 2018, 10:44:43 PM |
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Locking up the private investors tokens is part of the solution, we must also be reminded of the bounty hunters, a crash in price might also result from them too, while the ultimate people we must take note are the team/developers. Some of them get greedy dump and move to the next project. However if the project is a good one with use case, investors need not worry, patience is the key in Crypto, the token will surely bounce back it just a matter of time.
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August 13, 2018, 10:27:00 AM |
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That’s really a hard task to find a promising projects on ICO. ICO can increase to launch promising projects more and that should be make ICO profitable again`
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August 13, 2018, 10:46:10 AM |
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I think this is the problem with the crypto community. Everyone focusing on "profitability" rather than actual project development. People just invest thinking it's a get rich quick scheme but never actually looking at the underlying technology and how it can be incorporated into real world use cases.
Well, people just want to have a way to get some cash in a short amount of time and ICOs are a good way because it is getting hyped. However, because of the scam ICOs, investors are slowly dwindling down in investing in it because many are losing money. The prices are slowly going down upon listing in exchanges and the small investors/retail investors are the ones who are suffering because they cannot sell their coins at a profit. Locking up the private investors tokens is part of the solution, we must also be reminded of the bounty hunters, a crash in price might also result from them too, while the ultimate people we must take note are the team/developers. Some of them get greedy dump and move to the next project. However if the project is a good one with use case, investors need not worry, patience is the key in Crypto, the token will surely bounce back it just a matter of time.
Bounty hunters may be one of the cause why the price goes down but still you cannot just single out that they are the cause because when the price dump in exchange, the dump is so big that it would just be impossible for the bounty hunters to do it alone.
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August 13, 2018, 11:34:48 AM |
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The lock up period is essential but will put off many investors from buying in bulk and project managers will want to gain as many bitcoins / ethereum as they can get their hands on. Good to see that pre-sale investors are being recognised as responsible for dumping, usually bounty hunters get incorrectly blamed.
Same concept as bounty hunters did, they are selling the coins when it reached the exchange as pre-sale investors takes every advantage from the current value of the coins before gaining some attentions, progress will be delayed since the budget that has been collected from pre sales is far smaller than the actual value of the tokens, well its really needed to limit and make sure that the dev foreseen such actions so investing with ico's can be profitable in the long term period.
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It depends to what is the agenda of the developers, the good thing to make is that you should always look for an ICO which has a really working product and has a potential to have a big impact in the market and will grow as strong as bitcoin (seriously speaking).
it will not matter on how much bonuses will they receive, it really does matter to the product on how will it initiate in the industry and will remain standing still but not llsing the original price of the product/toke on its crowdsale.
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August 13, 2018, 04:09:48 PM |
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Lately, we've seen that investing in crowdsales are no longer profitable due to ICO's favouring VCs and private investors. These set of investors receive heavy bonuses with almost no lock up periods at all. Consequently, they dump these tokens at listing on exchanges and crash the prices below the ICO price, resulting in big losses for smaller investors. As a result, it's difficult to make 5x - 10x from ICO price anymore.
As an investor, one of the best ways to curb this and make ICO's more profitable again is to focus on crowdsales. You have to make a conscious decision to invest in only projects with good lock up periods for VC's and private investors. These lock up periods is what guarantees that the guys with big bonuses don't dump on us. A project with good and experienced team, working product, good token metrics, use case, and considerable lock up periods for VCs and private investor should ordinarily do well in the market.
Every ICO's is profitable even at $100.
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August 13, 2018, 04:16:43 PM |
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Investment is like horse racing. You have to consider many aspects to decide whether to invest. And after investing, have to trust the dev team, although sometimes the price is down but just know who the winner at the end.
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August 13, 2018, 04:48:15 PM |
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I think this is one of the best things to do so as to make a coin profitable again. Many of these private sales investors get much bonus and this mainly affects the price when listed. Lock ups should be introduced into all token distribution
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August 13, 2018, 05:06:20 PM |
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Investing in ICO, in many cases, is a long-term investment. We can not expect for a quick profit after ICO when listing on exchanges. They locked up the token to ensure their price. And sure enough, the token's price will depend on their development of the project, and the capital fund behind them.
I totally agree with you. Investing in an ICO is a long-term investment that, after some time, can bring good profit and may bring losses. If the project develops, goes to new exchanges, improves your product, then you will get profit.
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August 13, 2018, 05:26:49 PM |
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It’s true that these venture capital firms are undergoing a massive from ICOs as it gets a lot of financial backup from these kinds of investors which surely discourage small investors like us.
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August 13, 2018, 05:34:42 PM |
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In other words, you should examine the ICO very carefully, lockups variety, team backgrounds, development performances and its quality, this period is one of the best time to accumulate those potential ICO's especially if the tokens are already released to exchanges, most their prices are wrecked that is so affordable that it falls behind the deal of the private investors but not all of them fall that far, you can have some good profits from them, market recovery and the mainet/product release.
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August 13, 2018, 05:46:55 PM |
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Although the VCs and big group of investors put a big investment on market and the price, I still believe that it is possible to make profit of handsome amount through good decisions and waiting for perfect timing
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