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October 18, 2011, 06:05:36 AM
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It is very close to the bottom!  What we need to figure out is where the bottom price is.

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October 18, 2011, 06:41:52 AM
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Not quite, still a ways to go.

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October 18, 2011, 08:21:13 AM
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Traditional investments fail when the corporation is closed. Bitcoin will close when the last botminer and pool stops running. Not likely. Bitcoin is an idea that is too big to fail. Enjoy the second chance at becoming an early adopter.

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October 18, 2011, 08:53:23 AM
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Traditional investments fail when the corporation is closed. Bitcoin will close when the last botminer and pool stops running. Not likely. Bitcoin is an idea that is too big to fail. Enjoy the second chance at becoming an early adopter.

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October 18, 2011, 10:09:20 AM
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I think the bottom is likely going to be at $1.x, but it might be that it already hit the bottom. We'll see. Regardless, the downtrend is the active scenario until we don't have a new low for a month.

But I do agree with the OP, this is nothing new for Bitcoin. The currency and the economy behind it are still taking their baby steps. We will see x amount of months of a very low and more stable price, I think, and then after we get real developments in the economy, a new uptrend will form.

But without real developments it won't. There are not nearly enough people willing to drive it up based only on hype, not anymore.

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October 18, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
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I have not made any financial commitments to it, yet, but I believe the bottom will be well below $1/BTC.  The huge crash we've seen over the past couple of days, though, I doubt that's going to be typical of the ride down.  There will be more bouncing along and dropping, just as there has been for the past few weeks.
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October 18, 2011, 10:46:17 AM
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Sorry, Matthew, I care about the price because I don't want to waste my money.  Having money is important to me.  I know I'm eccentric in this regard. Smiley
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October 18, 2011, 10:46:44 AM
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Why do you guys care so much about the price? Bitcoin will live or die regardless of the price.
I worry somewhat because I do invest in Bitcoin. Nothing I can't afford to lose but still. But I'm doing other stuff as well, in fact I'm soon starting a company offering services related to Bitcoins. As far as the company is concerned a low and stable price is much better than a price that's continously declining. The decline has to stop, that's more important than at what point it stops.

The only thing I'm really worried about, regarding very low prices, is a non-secure hash rate. A price of below $1 could prove to be catastrophic for Bitcoin's technical security because with low hash rates the block chain becomes much easier to attack. This is why I really hope, as a supporter of Bitcoin, that the price doesn't go too low.

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October 18, 2011, 09:01:15 PM
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The only thing I'm really worried about, regarding very low prices, is a non-secure hash rate. A price of below $1 could prove to be catastrophic for Bitcoin's technical security because with low hash rates the block chain becomes much easier to attack. This is why I really hope, as a supporter of Bitcoin, that the price doesn't go too low.

Is this certain?  I asked in the technical forum once and while I don't understand any of it, it sounded like it didn't matter and the hash rate would have the same security.

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October 18, 2011, 10:08:12 PM
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I don't care so much either about a low price per se as it's true Bitcoin should rather be used as a currency than a pure speculative target, but the problem is that low prices will make Bitcoin stand out less against other cryptocurrencies => 21 million limit my ass.

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October 18, 2011, 10:10:40 PM
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today is the day Bitcoin will one day rise again like the phoenix
its happening now!


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October 18, 2011, 10:38:34 PM
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today is the day Bitcoin will one day rise again like the phoenix
its happening now!



ZOMG!!! Buybuybuy!!11!!!!!1!!!!11

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October 19, 2011, 07:08:56 AM
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I will pay you $100 to take my HDD which holds my wallet.dat with 1 BTC on it because they are going to be ruled illegal soon and I don't want to get fucked over.
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October 19, 2011, 07:26:33 AM
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Traditional investments fail when the corporation is closed. Bitcoin will close when the last botminer and pool stops running. Not likely. Bitcoin is an idea that is too big to fail. Enjoy the second chance at becoming an early adopter.

I think the best outcome of this will be that there won't be an "early adopter" argument again for a long time. My immediate friends who complained about it a few months ago are now waiting for the exchange rate to rise again to start buying. This at least proves that the argument was invalid all along. Yeah, I will be catching the "falling knife". Wink Though it's best to earn coins instead of buying them as always.
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October 19, 2011, 08:07:11 AM
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The second chance early adopter argument is bogus as long as the majority of miners aren't squeezed out and everybody thinks at the start of a new ralley that it is just another dead cat bounce.

I think the sign we are looking for are declining hashrates & rising prices at the same time.

Btw: Minsc why you suddenly have gone bullish? 2 weeks ago you posted tulip bubble graphs and now this???
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October 19, 2011, 08:45:36 AM
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Btw: Minsc why you suddenly have gone bullish? 2 weeks ago you posted tulip bubble graphs and now this???

It's stopped stagnating and gotten very low.

But I wouldn't buy until it gets to $1.

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October 19, 2011, 08:49:34 AM
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Btw: Minsc why you suddenly have gone bullish? 2 weeks ago you posted tulip bubble graphs and now this???

The price isn't stagnating.  Yes it's crashing, but when it finally hits bottom, it means it's a good time to buy.

Now how do we know that in time? Jeff Bezos only needs to whisper the word "Bitcoin" and you buy @ 10.

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October 19, 2011, 03:10:10 PM
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Traditional investments fail when the corporation is closed. Bitcoin will close when the last botminer and pool stops running. Not likely. Bitcoin is an idea that is too big to fail. Enjoy the second chance at becoming an early adopter.

Yeah ! So true ! The Btc will start to fly in 2012 !
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October 19, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
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I will pay you $100 to take my HDD which holds my wallet.dat with 1 BTC on it because they are going to be ruled illegal soon and I don't want to get fucked over.

Deal.
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October 19, 2011, 06:44:39 PM
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Still predicting a 300% rally for bitcoin in 2012.  Can't pinpoint a target, but it could be 50c to $1.50,  $1.25 to nearly $4... One thing is certain, we're all* going to be RICH! 

*"All" may not include greedy speculators that donated money during the slide from $32 to $2.
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