BItcoin Price manipulators have destroyed TRUST

[jamesashmore1964]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

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[seo-maestro]

Don't panic - HODL alts for few months and you will sell it with profits after new bull-run because Bakkt launch will pump all crypto to the moon again.

[adroitful_one]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If you can't handle the volatility, then you may want to think about getting out. That's how this market has always been. We've seen highs of over $1300 before crashing back down to $220 then bouncing back up over $1300 and from there it shot back up to almost $20,000. This is just a volatile market. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The price will drop, and it will go back up.

[jamesashmore1964]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If you can't handle the volatility, then you may want to think about getting out. That's how this market has always been. We've seen highs of over $1300 before crashing back down to $220 then bouncing back up over $1300 and from there it shot back up to almost $20,000. This is just a volatile market. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The price will drop, and it will go back up.

I hear you - thank you

[Geoff999]

Agreed that it is annoying to watch,

My logic is as follows, the coins that I now hold I believe have a use case in the wider world, and once their roadmaps pick up steam, should have real value,

 Currently the market is still almost all speculation with very few mainstream products, once this starts to change, the market should pick up.

For coins with no real use case, get rid of them, they might have their pump and dumps but will never truly have long term value.

[hidden_legend]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If you can't handle the volatility, then you may want to think about getting out. That's how this market has always been. We've seen highs of over $1300 before crashing back down to $220 then bouncing back up over $1300 and from there it shot back up to almost $20,000. This is just a volatile market. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The price will drop, and it will go back up.

I agree that financial markets always volatiles and this crypto market is risky.I think we need to invest only that amount which we can afford to lose and not make us panic.Have patience and wait.Experience of old players matter.Best of luck.

[dodziu]

Yes, the price manipulation is really causing a big problem to crypto and the present situation is becoming frustrating but I will still suggest that you shouldn't panic sell but hold your coin. The market will recover soon from the bear and then the price of coin will surely rise again.

[jamesashmore1964]

Agreed that it is annoying to watch,

My logic is as follows, the coins that I now hold I believe have a use case in the wider world, and once their roadmaps pick up steam, should have real value,

 Currently the market is still almost all speculation with very few mainstream products, once this starts to change, the market should pick up.

For coins with no real use case, get rid of them, they might have their pump and dumps but will never truly have long term value.

What are your coin suggestions?
Thank you in advance!

[bird17]

now there is no easy choice, all to sell or remain in the market and buy at low prices, to be in 2019 to get a good profit

[TheReverend]

you should hold your coin, if you cant handle volatility, you should sell everything and get out.
because how many the market crush, the price will recovery soon/late.

[bezygly]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

While you are not sold in the negative, then you are not at a loss, remember this. And half a year, this is not a term, buying something, immediately set a goal or price, or keep two years, and then it will be easier for you to cope with your emotions.

[Donned]

I think it's because a lot of money went to BTC.
As people lose confidence in ALT, more money will flow from ALT to BTC.

[Coinrush20]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

My suggestion is to access where you’ve made the wrong move? Ask yourself whether you missed anything, how do you possibly miss it? Then access your capabilities on gaining back your losses. Or you can just give up and accept that this market is not for you.

[iqlimasyadiqa]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

This will indeed make a lot of people experience prustation, I'm also similar because I'm sure someone is trying to take advantage of this condition.
They do things that are not commendable and they harm many people. But when we together fight for digital currency, we can maintain better conditions.
The strength we have can make digital currencies survive into a strong financial system.

[leetlezee]

Altcoin prices usually follow Bitcoin in a "whip-the-snake" fashion. Bitcoin rocketed down to $6k, and flung the altcoin prices into the dirt. We have not seen enough upward momentum to give altcoin prices enough of a tug upwards to give any real sustained positive movement. Once Bitcoin truly gets going on an upward trend and people start believing in a bull market again, you will see the altcoin market slowly start to pick up momentum, and once bull market is in full swing, we will probably see altcoins start rocketing past bitcoin in percentage increases.

At this point, the only hope in the altcoin market is to sell any trash coins that don't have much hope of recovery and HODL the best of the best altcoins.

[pageraji]

i think manipulator that control big media news is spreading fomo and fud about ETF to controling price bitcoin, its all about mind game...

[Mhd-Bobbi]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Don't rush to take friends' actions. Don't sell BTC even though the price is still down. This is only temporary. Maybe it's being repaired. Because of the many tokens and coins on the market. I hope this will be faster to restore market prices.

[makishart]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Bitcoin has a lot of domination right now and it will be continue until there will be official announcement from SEC regarding it. i guess that will be a very interesting thing in the future to see what will be happening with the market after that.  you can do whatever you want with your altcoins but i will try to buy more. because i have sold my stash when it has reached peak price.

[jamesashmore1964]

Thank you for all the wonderful replies!

[consideritdone]

Manipulators can only do so much
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin
What matter more is what market think

[ashmodeus]

of course , all on manipulation
but the point of it,
did u get manipulated too about this manipulation game ?
its like mind control game.
the big fat whales have any media for take control of our mind.

[Valeri4]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If this is a manipulation, then this is what they expected.Panic, need a panic.The faster you surrender the sooner the growth.

[PancherBitCoin]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If this is a manipulation, then this is what they expected.Panic, need a panic.The faster you surrender the sooner the growth.

It seems to me that you are really right and all those who manipulate the market are expected. It has long been reported that large whales want to empty the wallets of ordinary users.

[ckorbba]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If this is a manipulation, then this is what they expected.Panic, need a panic.The faster you surrender the sooner the growth.

It seems to me that you are really right and all those who manipulate the market are expected. It has long been reported that large whales want to empty the wallets of ordinary users.

It's a pity only those users of crypto-currencies who sold their homes and cars only in order to invest their money in the crypto currency and in particular in Bitcoin. Particularly sorry for those who did this in late 2017, because today they are almost bankrupt.

[jamesashmore1964]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If this is a manipulation, then this is what they expected.Panic, need a panic.The faster you surrender the sooner the growth.

These bastards have no mercy

They are low life scum!

[btc78]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

No one stopping you lol

You can do anything you want because thats your coins so leave if you are weak enough to stay here.

We dont need panicking people for the reasen that you will only adding rattle to another member by posting thread like this one.so stop it and just keep the faith and patience

[Enochian]

Maybe it's a main idea for such volatility? Not giant profit only? Yes, I understand that it looks like world conspiracy. But what if is it so? Cryptocurrency have an excellent idea and in this idea government don't have place. Without gov's or any order I don't imagine any development. But today the main feature of gov's is to print more money. This is concern!

[jamesashmore1964]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

No one stopping you lol

You can do anything you want because thats your coins so leave if you are weak enough to stay here.

We dont need panicking people for the reasen that you will only adding rattle to another member by posting thread like this one.so stop it and just keep the faith and patience

People are reaching their limit: This manipulation is disgusting!

[BronxCats]

I also think that it has to do with manipulators. You called them idiots, but what they really are selfish assholes. They don't care if you go broke, else they would have a conscious about what they do. And if they did, then others in their position wouldn't.

Hopefully the market evolves to the point where they won't have as much of an effect.

[bestcomputerpsycho]

That's the very first rule of crypto investing, invest only that which you can afford to lose.
By the statement you made it seems that you've invested more than that and that's why this panic is coming to haunt you. Also if you're in this space without any strategy, you'll lose for sure.
Many people say HODL but nobody says till what time you need to HODL, so there comes your strategy, if you want to HODL even after getting 4-5x returns or want to book entire profit there or partial profit.

[AUruHM]

That's the very first rule of crypto investing, invest only that which you can afford to lose.
By the statement you made it seems that you've invested more than that and that's why this panic is coming to haunt you. Also if you're in this space without any strategy, you'll lose for sure.
Many people say HODL but nobody says till what time you need to HODL, so there comes your strategy, if you want to HODL even after getting 4-5x returns or want to book entire profit there or partial profit.

If I will invest for lose only maybe it's a better not invest? As I understood speech is about trust to cryptocurrency as a phenomenon. With such volatility waves, holders lose trust to crypto as the investment for long-term. Because it inspires fears about complete loss. And this is the main reason for the loss of trust. No any stability or hopes. All bubble. That's what's scary!

[trumper]

I don't think this is entirely because of bitcoin manipulations, etf news caused price to crash while it is bullish.

[tmoney88]

It seems to be true that there has been lots of price manipulation by the whales, and it has driven a lot of the casual investors out of crypto. But as these whales and institutional investors start driving the prices back up, you will see a lot of these people coming back in. Best thing to do is wait it out. I look at it that the market can't get much worse than it is right now. It can only get better.

[knuckey]

apart from all that is how we can avoid even utilizing these manipulations into a profit in the future. because we cannot prevent it or reject it and go out is not the right solution for all these problems.

[aragom]

of course , all on manipulation
but the point of it,
did u get manipulated too about this manipulation game ?
its like mind control game.
the big fat whales have any media for take control of our mind.

not only trust.
all coins drops and they will continue to drop until btc will up to 60% dominance.

[starblocks]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

It's not just price manipulators, it's the abundant amount of projects with no real use and all the scams that have discouraged investors from continuing to invest large amounts into alternatives however good quality assets should recover in due time

[icegeekfresh]

I agree with you, they first increased btc from 3k dollar to 20k dollar, and again dropped to 6k dollar and still market couldnt return to normal, this manipulators gave big damage to cryptocurrencies, I hope everything can return to normal in few months.

[hermes006]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

If this is really a manipulation, then it will bring those people a very good profit, they can be understood. In general, if you invest in good altcoins then you have nothing to worry about, they will definitely recover, just have patience and do not go out of the market.

[hengha]

The cryptocurrency market has always been this situation, never changed, you should understand it when you join! Even in a bull market, you may face such a risk!

[batang_bitcoin]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

You describe the market as a circus? It isn't a circus.

If your alts are falling down don't blame it to bitcoin. You know bitcoin dominated the market for so many years and it will continue to dominate. If you aren't satisfied anymore, get out of the market or buy bitcoin.

[jamesashmore1964]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

You describe the market as a circus? It isn't a circus.

If your alts are falling down don't blame it to bitcoin. You know bitcoin dominated the market for so many years and it will continue to dominate. If you aren't satisfied anymore, get out of the market or buy bitcoin.

Your head is a circus!

[LankaJay]

Even any kind of market can go up and down, this kind of drops like $1000 in one day should not happen. That is ridiculous. However that is happening in this crypto market. We need to see a well established market like forex. It will drag more people to the crypto field. 

[Abeleez]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

I don't understand what you mean by manipulators eroding trust in Bitcoin. It's true that this year has not been particularly good for not only bitcoin but the entire crypto market but I don't want to subscribe to the theory that it's been market manipulators. The year has been full of bad news to start with, although am not completely ruling out the place of manipulators but I think their role here is being exaggerated.

[mishelinbtc]

If the volatility on the market disturbs you, stay away. Because this market sometimes gets $ 3,500 a bargain after $ 200 suddenly $ 20,000 If your heart and your heart will be heavy if you go do something else. Is not this situation already a bit of a gamble, which makes this market so popular?

[boakyei]

Bitcoin manipulation is just a hearsay to me. Who are they and what power does they have that they can send the whole market to tantrum.

[minairia3]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Dude the only thing they think about it money. Nothing else. So they won't really consider the effect of anything they do just to earn and maintain their control over so many people and the system they are in. Either you just accept it or just avoid the jungle.

[BigBrother]

Please don't panic. If everyone was selling their coins and leaving after every drop, then we wouldn't have so many successful and rich people in cryptocurrency. If you are still very painful to carry such price jumps, then you should think about leaving. But in any case, it is better to think very well and decide whether it is worth it.

[miropp]

Nothing is done for nothing. You don't have to be so critical. Falling prices have always been and will be, just need not to lose hope and soon everything will be restored. You came to the crypto because you believed in it, right? Then why are you talking like this? Just need wait. All be fine.

[bohr]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Do you realize that the market manipulators are the same ones that pushed the alts to insane levels just a year ago? You cannot hate them now that things are not going according to your plan since you were very happy when you were earning money, you either love the speculation and the manipulation or you prefer to hold your coins and avoid risks, and it seems that you have chosen to invest in the same way that the manipulators of the market have done in the past and now you find yourself in the wrong side of the market and are losing money, accept it and move on.

[Elcapsono]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Many large investors have already crashed the entire market and we will not survive another similar fall. So I think speculative actions will stop and everything will be aimed at changing the current situation to attract new investors and further development.

[crazylikeafox]

it is one of their strategy to do this and wait till the prices go down again and they will start moving and investing huge amount of money again, and ofcourse most of us here should be monitoring the movement so that we can go with the flow of this manipulators to earn a bit of profit.

[jamesashmore1964]

it is one of their strategy to do this and wait till the prices go down again and they will start moving and investing huge amount of money again, and ofcourse most of us here should be monitoring the movement so that we can go with the flow of this manipulators to earn a bit of profit.

I just hope they do not trash the market: A possibility!

[CrazeCoinz]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

This is a game that only those who has strategy will gonna win and if you lose your patience you will lose your money on those manipulators. Maybe this is there strategy to clean-up the crypto market with those panic investors before they let the bull run starts. Just be patient as we have still chance to see a bull run for this year.

[xclusiveguy]

Don't sell out and get out,  if you do you definitely gonna blame yourself why you do such, and that's what the whales want everyone to do so as to buy more cheaper altcoins and bitcoin,  once SEC comes up it's gonna be fine

[Silenox]

Volatility is far from over, for those who can not handle it, it's best to get out of the market. Speculation and manipulation is absurd, only with the passage of time and more investors coming in will it be possible to have less volatility, the market is new and still needs to mature. Holding the tokens and not getting down with the changes in the quote is a real art.

[Cnut237]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Don't panic. It's an unregulated market, and a lot of volumes are thin. Price volatility is a natural consequence. Prices will go up again, and drop again, and go up again.
If you don't like trading, then just hold and forget about current prices, as they will recover (for good alts at least).

[fortune92]

Yes some people have been scared off but one thing is for sure when it starts going up and we see a stable green and FOMO kicks  all the people that were scared off will dive in again to try and get earnings from the crypto rush wait and see

[WhaleTank]

Stop panic, dude
Crypto is not the way you can become rich in 1 day. At least 6 month of investing IN REAL PRODUCT COINS.
WhaleTank Trade
Your panic from the greed that you cant earn like in December. HOLD and you will be gifted!

[Baoo]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

Well, this is an angry thinking from you (OP) , keep calm  and believe me, if you will sell your budget of cryptocurrencies  in the near future, then I am pretty sure that you will regret especially after 6 months  or more because the market will back to the rise in fast way. It is unfortunate that the whales are who manipulate the whole market and also the  attacks of governments through some bad decisions ( like a widespread
 ban of crypto in many countries ) all of this led to big drop. But despite these problems , I think this decline is temporary and Bitcoin will certainly back better than Before. Just be patient, Do no rush.

[enhu]

Sell at loss because that exactly is what they  want. The don't care about trust what they  care is to accumulate so if you sell today make sure you  won't regret that you  buy that money  for something worth  than  having the coins you  have. I have about more than  100K USD that was suppose to be dumped but I was hopeful  to get more so I hold. Now its value can't even buy  a second hand car. That was terrible decision but I guess I should have it ready  in  the exchange if I was  to  dump it.

[Gaff]

The Idiots that have manipulated the price have scared many people and people are leaving this CIRCUS:
My Alts are not recovering when BTC goes up and go down when BTC goes down. If this pattern continues I will sell and get out!

You describe the market as a circus? It isn't a circus.

If your alts are falling down don't blame it to bitcoin. You know bitcoin dominated the market for so many years and it will continue to dominate. If you aren't satisfied anymore, get out of the market or buy bitcoin.

You are really right, these kind of people are the one ruining the trust that had been planted and grown and become a tree that can withstand anything that trying to pull it down, always barking like a dog if the situation is not at his side, I think he must pause for a while and think if he is in the right market to set in, but I think it is not.

[akisan0710]

in my opinion, the price of bitcoin is not be destroyed. I believe it will go up and be stable in next year.