[INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

[BitcoinPenny]

The price inflation begins......now we'll have to buy boxs because all the dealers see this, and will hold their cards unyil they see how this all works out. 

Just read this in a current 2018 Topps A&G lot sale (Buy Now):

"Amazing lot of 27 non baseball celebrities and oddities. CRYPTOCURRENCY NO LONGER PART OF THIS LOT. Online exclusive sold out product."


They're on to us, Fattcatt!

Regards,
Chris

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[wheelz1200]

The price inflation begins......now we'll have to buy boxs because all the dealers see this, and will hold their cards unyil they see how this all works out. 

Just read this in a current 2018 Topps A&G lot sale (Buy Now):

"Amazing lot of 27 non baseball celebrities and oddities. CRYPTOCURRENCY NO LONGER PART OF THIS LOT. Online exclusive sold out product."


They're on to us, Fattcatt!

Regards,
Chris

About 2 days ago there were about 60 in stock.  Guess someone grabbed the entire lot

[hybridsole]

Notable eBay sale:

[wheelz1200]

We probably have turned some heads in the card collecting community.  Crypto collectors are not to be toyed with lol.

[dolphriends]

Here are a few ODDS: when opening packs with the anticipation of finding a rare card.  The following odds are for any card and not specific to #83 cryptocurrency.

Any black border card  1:10 packs

Any brooklyn back  #/25     1:330 packs


Any printing plate 1/1        1:1777 packs

Any no number  #/50          1: 166  packs

Any glossy  1/1            1: 8355 packs

[hybridsole]

@dolph do you have a source on these, or did you crunch them yourself based on projections?  They seem right but I haven't come across any stats in this list other than the black border 1:10 statistic.  Knowing odds of the very unique 1/1 and 1/25 stuff would indicate that we likely know the entire production run numbers. 

[BitcoinPenny]

 
 Hot Box Silver Glossy Card

• Found in (hot?) hobby boxes
• Odds: Unknown (somewhat common)
• Standard 2.5" x 3.5" trading card size, Silver background

     


   Full Size Hot Box Parallel

• One full size hot box parallel card is included per hobby box (Overall odds: ~1:300 hobby boxes)

Are these the same card? I know that there is one "Hot Box" per case of Hobby Boxes, and the Hot Box is the same as all the other Hobby Boxes in the case, except that the base cards (full size) of the Hot Box have silver, glossy backgrounds. Plus, I've opened a normal (non-Hot Box) Hobby Box, and I did not find a "Full Size Hot Box Parallel" inside.

Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to this trading card hobby.

Regards,
Me

[BitcoinPenny]

Full Sized Glossy Parallel Card

• Printed on High-Gloss Card Stock
• 1-of-1
• Not much known, please post pictures or info if you have it.

   Glossy Stock

• Numbered 1-of-1
• Not much known, please post pictures or info if you have it.

Also, might these are the same card? Man, this collectible cards hobby is very confusing! LOL

Regards,
Chris

[hybridsole]

• One full size hot box parallel card is included per hobby box (Overall odds: ~1:300 hobby boxes)

Are these the same card? I know that there is one "Hot Box" per case of Hobby Boxes, and the Hot Box is the same as all the other Hobby Boxes in the case, except that the base cards (full size) of the Hot Box have silver, glossy backgrounds. Plus, I've opened a normal (non-Hot Box) Hobby Box, and I did not find a "Full Size Hot Box Parallel" inside.

Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to this trading card hobby.

Regards,
Me

Did your hobby box include a full size card?  When I watched a youtube video of a case break, each hobby box contained had an oversized card within the hobby box.  I was assuming this was that card.  But since it's a "hot box" parallel, it may be more limited than that. So what is the regular oversized card called? I'm confused as well.  

See video of case break at exact time where they find one of these common oversized cards "topper cards" in a hobby box: https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=3015


Same video, when they found an actual HOT box with the glossy/silver cards: https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=2527

[BitcoinPenny]

Did your hobby box include a full size card?  When I watched a youtube video of a case break, each hobby box contained had an oversized card within the hobby box.  I was assuming this was that card.  But since it's a "hot box" parallel, it may be more limited than that. So what is the regular oversized card called? I'm confused as well. 

The extra large card on top? Yes, that's the over-sized hobby "box loader" card. The full size cards are the normal base size (2.5" x 3.5"), I believe.

And the parallel cards, I believe, are any non-standard, non-base cards, such as the Glossy Silver, various mini cards, etc. In other words, any series that runs parallel to (but not part of) the standard base cards.

Again, that's my understanding, at least.

Regards,
Me

[BitcoinPenny]

I know that there is one "Hot Box" per case of Hobby Boxes, and the Hot Box is the same as all the other Hobby Boxes in the case, except that the base cards (full size) of the Hot Box have silver, glossy backgrounds.

Same video, when they found an actual HOT box with the glossy/silver cards: https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=2527

Yes, that sounds correct to me. There should be one Hot Box per case of Hobby Boxes.

(Please take my two pennies and mixed metaphor with a grain of salt. I've only been doing this for a few days.)

Regards,
Me


EDIT: I need more coffee.

[dolphriends]

@dolph do you have a source on these, or did you crunch them yourself based on projections?  They seem right but I haven't come across any stats in this list other than the black border 1:10 statistic.  Knowing odds of the very unique 1/1 and 1/25 stuff would indicate that we likely know the entire production run numbers.  

Look on the back of the pack of cards

[hybridsole]

@dolph do you have a source on these, or did you crunch them yourself based on projections?  They seem right but I haven't come across any stats in this list other than the black border 1:10 statistic.  Knowing odds of the very unique 1/1 and 1/25 stuff would indicate that we likely know the entire production run numbers.  

Look on the back of the pack of cards

For retail packs, I see.  Added odds to OP. 

[Fattcatt]

Amazon has great prices, free delivery if a member of prime. ALSO get the card sleeves to put the cards in PRIOR to sliding them into the  top loader.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1GRLSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[BitcoinPenny]

ALSO get the card sleeves to put the cards in PRIOR to sliding them into the  top loader.

Why the double-sleeving?

Regards,
Me

[Fattcatt]

Because if you want to get the card out of the top loader, its easier to take a tweezer and get ahold of the sleeve, not get oils from your fingers on it.... because the older a card gets the drier it gets...like a sponge...even on the edges...it's the standard of "taking care" of your cards, your investment, and it says a lot about the current owner...be apprehensive if you don't see a card in a sleeve .....just fyi...the science of collecting has come a long way since we were kids. 

[BitcoinPenny]

Because if you want to get the card out of the top loader, its easier to take a tweezer and get ahold of the sleeve, not get oils from your fingers on it.... because the older a card gets the drier it gets...like a sponge...even on the edges...it's the standard of "taking care" of your cards, your investment, and it says a lot about the current owner...be apprehensive if you don't see a card in a sleeve .....just fyi...the science of collecting has come a long way since we were kids. 

Nice! Thanks for the tip!

Regards,
Chris

[Fattcatt]

those mini cards....they have top loaders for them too @ Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Tobacco-Toploaders-Sleeves-Cards/dp/B002UELTGS/ref=sr_1_5?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1534700648&sr=1-5&keywords=mini+card+toploader

[Mrstacy]

8 black base for sale

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F153145547236

[dolphriends]

The hunt is still ongoing for the magenta printing plate for # 83 cryptocurrency.  Best of luck to all of you treasure hunters out there looking for these ultra rare exciting rookie cards.  There is also the possibility of a 1/1 wood stock #83 card .