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Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread

Last Updated: September 2, 2018

This reference thread is intended to contain information about all versions of cryptocurrency cards found in the Topps Allen & Ginter baseball card series.  The first cryptocurrency card produced by one of the major collectible card companies, Topps, was released as part of the 2018 Topps Allen & Ginter 300-card base set and is numbered 83.  The 2018 Allen and Ginter cards were released the week of July 18th.  The series includes current and former baseball players, as well as an eclectic grouping of celebrities and non-baseball related cards.

A few weeks after releasing the regular Allen and Ginter series, Topps released the more limited Ginter X series boxes on August 8th, 2018.  The X series sold out within a day and features more limited cards with dark or black background colors.  



Company:    Topps, Inc.
Regular Series Sales Site:    https://www.topps.com/2018-allen-and-ginter-baseball-hobby.html
X Series Sales Site:    https://www.topps.com/collectibles/trading-cards/trading-cards-by-sport/online-exclusives/2018-ginter-x-hobby-box.html
2018 Topps Checklist:    https://www.topps.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/2018-Allen-Ginter-BB-Checklist.pdf
Sell Sheet / PDF Brochure:    https://gogts.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2018-Topps-Allen-and-Ginter-Baseball-Cards-Sell-Sheet.pdf

Where to buy (Still on sale as of Aug-19):    https://www.blowoutcards.com/sports-cards/baseball-cards/2018.html?dir=asc&manufacturer=17&order=name



Articles/Media:

[ARTICLE] Allen & Ginter Unannounced Curiosities and Other Things to Watch for 2018    https://www.beckett.com/news/2018-allen-ginter-surprises/
[ARTICLE] Ginter X Baseball Arrives as Online Only Product    https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/2018-ginter-x-baseball-arrives-as-online-only-product/

[CHECKLIST] Regular Series - Baseball Cardpedia    http://baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/2018_Topps_Allen_%26_Ginter
[CHECKLIST] Regular Series - Beckett    https://www.beckett.com/news/2018-topps-allen-ginter-baseball/
[CHECKLIST] Regular Series - Break Ninja    http://www.breakninja.com/2018-Topps-Allen-And-Ginter-Baseball-checklist-no-team.html
[CHECKLIST] Regular Series - Cardboard Connection    https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-topps-allen-ginter-baseball-cards
[CHECKLIST] Regular Series - GoGTS    https://gogts.net/2018-topps-allen-ginter-baseball-cards/
[CHECKLIST] X Series - Cardboard Connection    https://www.cardboardconnection.com/2018-topps-allen-ginter-x-baseball-cards

[FORUM MEGATHREADS]  First Buzz: 2018 Topps Allen & Ginter baseball cards    https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188598
[FORUM MEGATHREADS]  2018 Allen & Ginter X Speculations Thread    https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1227187

[VIDEO] Bitcoin Cryptocurrency Rookie Card?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2UXfeiOYNk
[VIDEO] Hobby Box Unboxing (aka "box break")      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfnB1vmU6k
[VIDEO] Finding a HOT hobby box with the glossy/silver cards    https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=2527




   Found in all Topps Allen & Ginter Blaster Boxes, Hobby Boxes, Retail Boxes, and Value Packs:

                      




   Base Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Standard 2.5" x 3.5" trading card size, White background

      



   Mini Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Odds of finding a mini card: 1 per pack (note: #83 specifically would be 1:300-350 packs).
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, White background

          



   Mini Allen & Ginter Logo Back Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Odds of finding any mini A&G logo back card: 1:5 packs (1:~1500 packs for #83 specifically)
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, White background (front), dark B&W logo printed on back

          



   Mini Black Bordered Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Odds of finding any mini black bordered card: 1:10 packs (1:~3000 packs for #83 specifically)
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, Black border (front)

          



   Mini Glow in the Dark Cryptocurrency Cardi

  • Front border glows in the dark and has a transparent glossy pattern
  • Backside has a felt texture
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card

      



   Mini No Number Cryptocurrency Card

  • Limited to 50
  • No number printed on back
  • Otherwise similar to the Allen & Ginter Logo Back mini
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card

          



   Mini Brooklyn Logo Back Cryptocurrency Card


  • Also referred to as red back, red ink mini
  • Hand numbered to 25
  • Retail pack odds of finding a Brooklyn logo mini: 1:330 packs (1:~100,000 packs for #83 specifically)
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, White background (front), red B&W logo printed on back

      



   Glossy 1-of-1 Cryptocurrency Card

  • Printed on High-Gloss Card Stock
  • Hand Numbered 1-of-1
  • Standard 2.5" x 3.5" trading card size, White background (front), glossy finish
  • Retail pack odds of finding a Glossy mini: 1:8,086 packs (1:~2,400,000 packs for #83 specifically)
  • Please post pictures or info if you have it.



   Mini Glossy 1-of-1 Cryptocurrency Card

  • Printed on High-Gloss Card Stock
  • Hand numbered 1-of-1
  • Retail pack odds of finding a Glossy mini: 1:8,086 packs (1:~2,400,000 packs for #83 specifically)
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, White background (front), glossy finish






   Found in Topps Allen & Ginter Retail Value Packs:

          




   Mini Gold Bordered Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Found only in retail "value" packs - 3 gold bordered cards in a sealed insert within the 3-pack value pack. 1 gold bordered card in the 14 card "hot" pack.
  • Odds of finding mini gold bordered #83 card: 1:~100 value packs
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card, Gold border (front)

      




   Found in Topps Allen and Ginter Hobby Boxes:

          




   Hot Box Silver Glossy Cryptocurrency Card

  • "Hot" hobby boxes are those which contain all Silver Glossy cards instead of base cards
  • Odds of finding Hot Box: 1 hot hobby box per case of 12 hobby boxes
  • Standard 2.5" x 3.5" trading card size, Silver background and glossy finish

      



   Mini Black Cryptocurrency Printing Plate

  • Numbered 1-of-1
  • This is the actual printing plate used to manufacture the card.
  • Retail pack odds of finding a printing plate: 1:1,777 packs (~1:530,000 packs for #83 specifically)

      



   Mini Cyan Cryptocurrency Printing Plate

  • Numbered 1-of-1
  • This is the actual printing plate used to manufacture the card.
  • Retail pack odds of finding a printing plate: 1:1,777 packs (~1:530,000 packs for #83 specifically)

      



   Mini Yellow Cryptocurrency Printing Plate

  • Numbered 1-of-1
  • This is the actual printing plate used to manufacture the card.
  • Retail pack odds of finding a printing plate: 1:1,777 packs (~1:530,000 packs for #83 specifically)

          



   Mini Magenta Cryptocurrency Printing Plate

  • Numbered 1-of-1
  • This is the actual printing plate used to manufacture the card.
  • Retail pack odds of finding a printing plate: 1:1,777 packs (~1:530,000 packs for #83 specifically)

          



   Over-sized "Box Loader" Cryptocurrency Card

  • One over-sized box loader card included in each hobby box
  • Odds of finding #83 specifically: ~1:300 hobby boxes
  • Please post pictures of #83 if you have it



   Wood Stock 1-of-1 Cryptocurrency Card

  • Numbered 1-of-1
  • Not much known, please post pictures or info if you have it.
  • There is debate whether Topps included any Wood Stock cards in the 2018 series. It may have been incorrectly listed as being part of the release.





   Found in Topps Allen and Ginter X Series Packs and Boxes Only:

          




   X Base Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Standard 2.5" x 3.5" trading card size, Black background

      



   X Mini Cryptocurrency Card


      



   X Red Mini Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card size, Red background
  • Hand numbered 5/5

      



   X Silver Mini Cryptocurrency Card

  • #83 of 300 - Cryptocurrency
  • Miniature 1.5" x 2.75" trading card size, Silver background
  • Limited to 1




   Sold direct from Topps:

  




   Base Cryptocurrency Poster


          

                                                  Photo credit: Breadyfreddy


   Gold Edition Cryptocurrency Poster


          

                                                                                           Photo credit: Breadyfreddy


   Oversized Complete Base Set - #'D to 10


        



   Oversized Complete Base Set - #'D to 49


        



   Blank Back Cryptocurrency Card

  • Sold direct from Topps Vault on eBay
  • Hologram on reverse side numbered 1-of-1
  • Serial # 053911
  • Ebay sales link:  http://r.ebay.com/kU9SvT
  • Sold for $2,475.00 on Aug 20, 2018

          


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August 16, 2018, 02:05:23 PM
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Goodjob Hybrid. Thankyou for doing this.  Wink
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 Hybridsole, VERY nice job.  Tongue  Also, excellent grab getting the #1 poster over at Topps  Cheesy  Congratulations!!!
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August 16, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
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The base posters at Topps are all sold out!!!
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August 16, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
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Hybridsole, VERY nice job.  Tongue  Also, excellent grab getting the #1 poster over at Topps  Cheesy  Congratulations!!!

Thank you.  I only wish that was me... Breadyfreddy beat us to it, and I swiped his pics from the other thread. 
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Excellent Reference Thread!
Thanks for taking the time to put it together.

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August 17, 2018, 02:04:39 AM
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Am really enjoying seeing all the different photos of these many rare cards produced by Topps.  Incredible 1/1 poster and of course the printing plates considered to be the holy grail of the bunch.  Very cool indeed Cool Cool Cool Cool
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The gold mini parallel cards come from the "retail" box's....the reason that we havent seen many of them yet, is because those box's are the cheapest, and collectors go for the most expensive box's first.....each box comes with 1 three card clear cellophane packet of the gold parallel's.
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The gold mini parallel cards come from the "retail" box's....the reason that we havent seen many of them yet, is because those box's are the cheapest, and collectors go for the most expensive box's first.....each box comes with 1 three card clear cellophane packet of the gold parallel's.

Agree, spot on FC.  Collectors go for the most expensive cards possible first.
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The gold mini parallel cards come from the "retail" box's....the reason that we havent seen many of them yet, is because those box's are the cheapest, and collectors go for the most expensive box's first.....each box comes with 1 three card clear cellophane packet of the gold parallel's.

Thanks, I updated the OP.  Do you know the odds of finding a gold mini bordered card within a retail pack? 
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August 17, 2018, 05:26:16 PM
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Well that's me out Cheesy - Maybe I should consider myself lucky that they don't have something like this on my end of the pond. Great job compiling this @hybridsole. Given the way that this has turned out and how their 1/1 auction is proceeding I think we'll be seeing plenty more crypto related cards coming out of Topps HQ.
Are total printing numbers ever disclosed for something like this? (I'm talking the standard cards).
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August 17, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
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eventually we will know the population of all of them, might take 2 or 3 years though...... Embarrassed.........is it just me, or have the sellers stopped listing #83?Huh  Angry
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One of the Silver Glossy cards just sold  Shocked



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The price inflation begins......now we'll have to buy boxs because all the dealers see this, and will hold their cards unyil they see how this all works out.  Cry
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The price inflation begins......now we'll have to buy boxs because all the dealers see this, and will hold their cards unyil they see how this all works out.  Cry

Again FC is correct on how this business works.  
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eventually we will know the population of all of them, might take 2 or 3 years though...... Embarrassed.........is it just me, or have the sellers stopped listing #83?Huh  Angry

I read there were less than 200 cases made of the allen and ginter X.  No idea on the other.
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A little backstory based on my observations collecting cards as a kid:

In the late 80's / early 90's, baseball cards (and sports cards overall) skyrocketed in popularity, which led to the period known as the "inflationary period" where the companies, to keep up with demand, printed themselves out of business.  The way they took advantage of their customers by over-saturating the market, along with a players strike which cut one of the seasons short, essentially killed the entire hobby of baseball card collecting (from a mainstream point of view) after the mid 90's.

Fast forward to 2018, the card companies that have managed to survive should understand very well the issues of "hyperinflation".  And they seem to be rewarding their remaining loyal customers at this point with more special inserts, along with lower mintages to keep pace with demand.  From what I understand reading the baseball card posts on reddit and elsewhere, the Allen and Ginter stuff is not very popular overall within the baseball card collectors, so it's a niche series within a niche hobby.  Although the sports card collecting market seems to be on the rebound overall.  It makes sense why A&G would take risks like this to bring in more collectors from different communities, especially by looking to something like cryptos which would attract the younger millennial baseball fans.  We will see how this all plays out, and I expect to see fully private-key-loaded baseball cards coming in 2019 or 2020.  This might be the beginning of something big, hence the reason I've put some effort to documenting it.
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August 18, 2018, 06:26:44 PM
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Got a few 10x14s coming. What is the best way to display/protect these?  Simple picture frame?

I'm guessing if i don't open it, it'll appreciate more though, right?  can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Got a few 10x14s coming. What is the best way to display/protect these?  Simple picture frame?

I'm guessing if i don't open it, it'll appreciate more though, right?  can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would go on ebay or visit your local hobby shop and pick up a few of these:



Or even a nice frame from Hobby Lobby or Michaels!! Cheesy

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Cool. Thanks.

Any appreciation potential for the 10x14.  I see the website says numbered to 99, but also mentions may be back in stock.  A bit confused.
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