New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18

[konieczkocoin]

Well.. i have around 5k$ to drop on mining rigs (these money r kind of a non-refundable loan) and i can drop them only on IT equipment.. im considering buying 2070 as i have to spend this money around october/sept. I can sell them a year from date of purchase. My idea is that this card wont drop in price significantly and if the AMD 7nm will gives better hashrate i can sell RTX to gamers and buy AMD's. Also i have free electricity up to 2,5kW
thoughts?

[ultiman2]

So for now now 2060? they probably start with the big gun and then push out lower version

[0xcosmos]

in my country preorder prices are 23% more than US prices
so a big NO for the time being
hope the reference cards and other oem cards are priced economically

[Metroid]

in my country preorder prices are 23% more than US prices
so a big NO for the time being
hope the reference cards and other oem cards are priced economically

probably your country has 23% import tax higher than the us, once the us increases import tax then prices for xx70 --> $399 will never exist anymore. Trade war is only bad to the people, there are countries with 100% or more import tax, most say is to protect local industries but the truth is, govs want to steal the bit you have.

these gpus are not for mining yet but they might be if somebody codes a ray tracing algo hehe

[Privatoria]

As I know these new cards will be not so big step for mining. New cardis, for instance RTX 2070 will have only 2304 Cores instead of 1920 Cores for GTX 1070 cards. That’s why they will give only +20% of profit.

[Metroid]

+20% of profit.

profit? i say lossfit hehe, at these prices anybody thinking about buying these gpus for mining needs to recheck sanity levels, no wonder how idiotic the world has become, trolls using celeron cpu to mine, integrated graphics, buying ryzen 2990 32 cores to mine, that is just an example on how to become stupid.

[KaydenC]

As I know these new cards will be not so big step for mining. New cardis, for instance RTX 2070 will have only 2304 Cores instead of 1920 Cores for GTX 1070 cards. That’s why they will give only +20% of profit.

The memory bandwidth is 448gb/s, compared to 484gb/s for 1080ti. And 1080ti easily do 53mh/s eth. It might be +20% in core intensive algos, but it's much more in memory bound algos if it's well optimized.

Think I will wait for black friday. Snap up $420-$430 Rtx 2070s. It's probably gonna be released mid oct, so it's just 1 extra month to wait.

[chaoprokia]

buy the cards for gaming. for mining it will take along way to go unless price decide to change in short term.

[MinedTangerine]

Anybody plan to order it? Seems like the price is too high, based on my calculation needs about 4 years to break even .

People will likely buy any for bragging rights cause most will never use them fully, ray tracing is a new thing, ...

Ray tracing is a very old thing. I remember ray tracing images from the first VGA cards that came out. Its just the on card specific support thats new.

[philipma1957]

closed my thread


as this was first thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4930823.msg44427891#msg44427891


I ordered this one for my thread ripper build

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-08G-P4-2182-KR/dp/B07GHVWMBS/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1534798381&sr=8-20&keywords=rtx%2B2080&th=1

[Elder III]

BitsBeTrippin' did a very good video about the potential hashrates of the RTX 2000 series based on what information we know at this point.  It's not a guarantee of course, but I think his estimates are probably reasonably close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCEm2J9D9s

 

[philipma1957]

BitsBeTrippin' did a very good video about the potential hashrates of the RTX 2000 series based on what information we know at this point.  It's not a guarantee of course, but I think his estimates are probably reasonably close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCEm2J9D9s

 

I will look at it after dinner thank you.

[Tszunami98]

I think there will still be a market for these type of boards, among gamers of course. Cryptomining wise i doubt they will sell even 1.
The market is already flooded with cheap second hand boards + the remainin unsold boards from the last edition.

[Metroid]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX Series Prices Up To 71% Higher Than Previous Gen

NVIDIA revealed the SEP prices of its GeForce RTX 20-series, and it's a bloodbath in the absence of competition from AMD. The SEP price is the lowest price you'll be able to find a custom-design card at. NVIDIA is pricing its reference design cards, dubbed "Founders Edition," at a premium of 10-15 percent. These cards don't just have a better (looking) cooler, but also slightly higher clock speeds.

The GeForce RTX 2070 is where the lineup begins, for now. This card has an SEP pricing of USD $499. Its Founders Edition variant is priced at $599, or a staggering 20% premium. You'll recall that the previous-generation GTX 1070 launched at $379, with its Founders Edition at $449. The GeForce RTX 2080, which is the posterboy of this series, starts at $699, with its Founders Edition card at $799. The GTX 1080 launched at $599, with $699 for the Founders Edition. Leading the pack is the RTX 2080 Ti, launched at $999, with its Founders Edition variant at $1,199. The GTX 1080 Ti launched at $699, for the Founders Edition no less.

https://www.techpowerup.com/246925/nvidia-geforce-rtx-series-prices-up-to-71-higher-than-previous-gen

Go buy them, mine at loss and make nvidia proud hehe and next generation, expect nvidia to almost charge another 100% on top hehe, $1199 for rtx 2080ti, $1999 for rtx 3080ti hehe

[spacedis]

I am excited about gaming but I don't think this will be a huge jump for the mining community. I can't wait to see how they actually work and what kinda power people can get out of them.

[jmigdlc99]

We'll have to wait for the reviews and benchmarks and see how they fare for mining... But at these prices they are highly unlikely to make any sense for miners.

Even if a 2080Ti is 50% faster than a 1080Ti you still only make less than $2 per day at current profitability levels. That's probably about two years to get your money back factoring in electricity costs...

The only candidate might be the 2070, but even that one's likely a stretch.

I am loving your posts dragonmike. Always sensible and backed by numbers instead of just pure opinion. Given those figure, it indeed doesn't make much sense to join the bandwagon on these GPUs whether you are going to use them for mining or gaming.

I'd wait a couple of months till their value goes down or simply pick up 10 series GPUs at heavily discounted prices.

[puwaha]

I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.

[adaseb]

I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.

I am pretty sure they main purpose of pricing it so high is not to keep it away from miners. If they price it way too high then pretty much no gamers will buy and gamers will just buy some 2nd hand (retired mining GPUs) from eBay and SLI them together and will get a much better speed than with the flagship model. Basically 2 of the 1080ti will probably outperform the single 2080ti and will probably cost less if bought used.

Right now mining is not profitable and even if the GPUs were very cheap, miners wouldn't buy them. Everybody right now is jumping ship.

[DrG]

Haha what a sad year for nVidia. Well, here's hoping I don't get gouged too much on a mobile GPU - I've been sitting on my almost 5 year old gaming laptop and had to really control myself and not buy a laptop with a GTX 1060 or 1070. If nVidia doesn't behave even with mobile RTX pricing I'm going to jump to a laptop with Vega when 7nm mobile comes out next year.

In the mean time I've been having LAN parties at my house and each of my 6 machines has SLI or crossfire high end cards stolen from my mining rigs 

Who knew these video cards could be used to play games!?! 

[gameboy366]

I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.

I am pretty sure they main purpose of pricing it so high is not to keep it away from miners. If they price it way too high then pretty much no gamers will buy and gamers will just buy some 2nd hand (retired mining GPUs) from eBay and SLI them together and will get a much better speed than with the flagship model. Basically 2 of the 1080ti will probably outperform the single 2080ti and will probably cost less if bought used.

Right now mining is not profitable and even if the GPUs were very cheap, miners wouldn't buy them. Everybody right now is jumping ship.

That doesn't make sense. If they kept the price low then miners would have bought the gpus and prices would have inflated to reach current msrp, so it would still be same for gamers. But you are saying even if prices were low miner will not buy them...you are contradicting yourself.