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The numbers I am giving for 3 to 5 cents money are exactly why btc diff is jumping.
For years many people said the big money farms are making moves to take over.
Well now they are.
Okay player a tells me he has 100 mega watts at 4 cents.
he wants cheap s9's is everyone unable to read math.
S-9's 10 % fail in a year
okay 100 mega watts = 100000 k watts or 70000 s9's
he can get them with a psu for under 500
more like 450 so he has power for 70000 he buys 80000 giving him 10000 spares.
This is happening in multiple locations I know of 1 for sure 2 as a maybe and bitmain is building 2 farms which means even cheaper then 450 for an s9 and a psu.
the guy with 70000 s9's mining makes 2.20 a day for each one that is 154,000 .
Yeah he needs more like guards and staff so knock off 14,000 he makes 140,000 a day. that pays off 311 s9s a day all 80000 paid in 257 days.
I know futures alter. but with 3,4,5 cent power it is not a big deal.
and new gear so far does 79 watts a th vs 100 watts a th.
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August 25, 2018, 11:08:26 PM |
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bitmain has been for sometime clearing its s9 mining warehouses for sxx 7nm, bitmain is 3nd in line after amd. Whoever is buying s9 for mining right now are for a huge blow, matter of fact, anyone buying mining equipment is for a blow.
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August 26, 2018, 07:28:06 AM |
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Why is this in the altcoin mining section?!
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August 26, 2018, 07:41:41 AM |
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The numbers I am giving for 3 to 5 cents money are exactly why btc diff is jumping.
For years many people said the big money farms are making moves to take over.
Well now they are.
Okay player a tells me he has 100 mega watts at 4 cents.
he wants cheap s9's is everyone unable to read math.
S-9's 10 % fail in a year
okay 100 mega watts = 100000 k watts or 70000 s9's
he can get them with a psu for under 500
more like 450 so he has power for 70000 he buys 80000 giving him 10000 spares.
This is happening in multiple locations I know of 1 for sure 2 as a maybe and bitmain is building 2 farms which means even cheaper then 450 for an s9 and a psu.
the guy with 70000 s9's mining makes 2.20 a day for each one that is 154,000 .
Yeah he needs more like guards and staff so knock off 14,000 he makes 140,000 a day. that pays off 311 s9s a day all 80000 paid in 257 days.
I know futures alter. but with 3,4,5 cent power it is not a big deal.
and new gear so far does 79 watts a th vs 100 watts a th.
Phil you are forgetting about a lot of costs. Yes if it were just electricity you would be correct. You have property taxes, rent/mortgage, insurance, and a very expensive internet connection that absolutely cannot go down. Then you have switches with 70,000 ports that also cannot fail, cisco routers, firewalls, physical security. Network engineers to build the network, pen testers, monitoring software. I'm sure even I am forgetting some things. Look I'm not saying there aren't big farms out there, I know there are, but this is not as lucrative as you are making it sound. https://mtstandard.com/news/local/cryptowatt-bitcoin-mining-operation-up-and-running-south-of-butte/article_8bad2d96-5721-5697-8b01-be5e435cddee.html
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August 26, 2018, 08:11:54 AM |
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Remember all those new users who joined last year and we told them to hold off on mining and instead buy coins if they wanted to take risks - well failure to head that advice now I see a lot of posts of new users cursing at crypto.
I know the crypto world is 10x as fast as the fiat world as far as growth and volatility, but what sensible person thought ETH would sustain $5k and BTC would hit $100k so that rigs could pay themselves off in a month. It's almost as bad as the housing bubble.
Sit still, remain calm, turn off the miner (if you're paying over 10 cents/KWH), and see where we are in 6 months. There will be no arise chikun moon rockets under the Christmas tree this year (my opinion anyway). Hopefully 2019 more reasonable ICOs and possibly ETH POS (with corresponding price increase) will make this endeavor worthwhile.
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August 26, 2018, 08:23:07 AM |
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but this is not as lucrative as you are making it sound.
That is the problem trolls fail to see, they actually dont ever see the costs of something, they only see what something could possibly return and that tends to be the worst possible outcome in the long term. Another mistake trolls are doing is selling gpus 3 times less or more than what they have paid, if is not profitable then simply turn off everything, use the money to buy coins and then once it becomes profitable again turn them back on, in the end of the day people buying the coin will make mining profitable again.
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If you guys look at the hashrate charts https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrateYou would think we would get like a 50% hashrate reduction, instead we just get a small dip which is either variance or people who switched to mining ETC (or XMR). Same thing happened in first quarter of 2015. BTC hit like $150 from $1000 a year ago and there was one difficulty reduction period, and the rest of the year remained in a flatish uptrend till the end of 2015. Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
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August 26, 2018, 09:09:43 AM Last edit: August 26, 2018, 09:19:52 AM by Metroid |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
You say mining at loss? only idiots do that cause it was explained countless of times that doing that you are at double loss, anyway, i do believe there are idiots out there but not as many as you trolls think, 70% of total eth hashrate are asics and asics never mine at loss where gpus is not totally negative at 0.10 per kw, whereas gpus give $0.15 per 30 mhs on eth, asics like the f3, given the same $0.15 to asics + another $0.20 the electricity they save then we can come up with $0.35 per 30 mhs, so each 1.5 ghs f3 give around 20 usd, without any hard work whatsoever, to carry on till market recovers. The only ones still earning money here are asic manufactures, whereas gpu miners get $0.15 per gpu, asics miners like bitman f3 are earning 20 usd per asic, not bad if you ask me and like i said before this crash is due to that, bitmain was earning 100 usd per eth asic, not to mention the other asics which were making much more money, asics destroyed everything again, if there were no asics then eth right now would be around 3k usd minimum.
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August 26, 2018, 02:40:49 PM |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
You say mining at loss? only idiots do that cause it was explained countless of times that doing that you are at double loss, anyway, i do believe there are idiots out there but not as many as you trolls think, 70% of total eth hashrate are asics and asics never mine at loss where gpus is not totally negative at 0.10 per kw, whereas gpus give $0.15 per 30 mhs on eth, asics like the f3, given the same $0.15 to asics + another $0.20 the electricity they save then we can come up with $0.35 per 30 mhs, so each 1.5 ghs f3 give around 20 usd, without any hard work whatsoever, to carry on till market recovers. The only ones still earning money here are asic manufactures, whereas gpu miners get $0.15 per gpu, asics miners like bitman f3 are earning 20 usd per asic, not bad if you ask me and like i said before this crash is due to that, bitmain was earning 100 usd per eth asic, not to mention the other asics which were making much more money, asics destroyed everything again, if there were no asics then eth right now would be around 3k usd minimum. No you fail to see long term mining ie year after year after year has completely different tax laws then buy and hold. You have lots of good info but sometime you don't know what you are talkng about. I will mine at a loss for August and Sept. At that point I will start more reduction of mining. I already know what I am willing to lose from August to December this year. About 1k So far I lost 300 in August. The 1k simply will reduce my early year profits and reduce my tax bill. While buying 4k in coins does zero to help tax bills and tax planing. This is USA law I know many places have different laws. But for me to mine and hold the coins say spend 4k on power to earn 3k in coins Gives me more tax benefits then to buy 4k in coins and hold them. Mining and holding the 4k allows me a 4k power cost for taxes this year. Since taxes are 33% 4 k power cost saves me 1333 which makes up for the 1k lost 4k power- 3 k coins - 1 k loss the cost basis for the 3k in coins will be zero when I sell So I gain 333 this year and when I sell in later years I will pay more tax. buying 4k and holding does zero. this year. when I sell cost basis is 4k Buying and holding the 4k spent allows me no power cost for taxes this year. So I gain zero this year and when I sell in later year I will pay less tax. This is a big reason for mining at a loss and you leave it out. So don't. This gives me a possible 1 to 2 years of loss without issues for tax benefits to be taken now.
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August 26, 2018, 05:06:31 PM |
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You are the one that manages your gains or losses, in the end of the day its your decision.
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August 26, 2018, 06:01:29 PM |
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For those who’s power costs are too high - look into budget billing. It lowered my monthly power to 1/3 of what it would have been. Problem is, you have to sign up before you start mining
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August 26, 2018, 07:06:22 PM |
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Why is this in the altcoin mining section?!
Bitcoin cash and bitcoin core btcc are alt coins and this video is based around sha-256 mining that while I talk about bitcoin the the video directly applies to many Alts!
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August 26, 2018, 07:08:53 PM |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
You say mining at loss? only idiots do that cause it was explained countless of times that doing that you are at double loss, anyway, i do believe there are idiots out there but not as many as you trolls think, 70% of total eth hashrate are asics and asics never mine at loss where gpus is not totally negative at 0.10 per kw, whereas gpus give $0.15 per 30 mhs on eth, asics like the f3, given the same $0.15 to asics + another $0.20 the electricity they save then we can come up with $0.35 per 30 mhs, so each 1.5 ghs f3 give around 20 usd, without any hard work whatsoever, to carry on till market recovers. The only ones still earning money here are asic manufactures, whereas gpu miners get $0.15 per gpu, asics miners like bitman f3 are earning 20 usd per asic, not bad if you ask me and like i said before this crash is due to that, bitmain was earning 100 usd per eth asic, not to mention the other asics which were making much more money, asics destroyed everything again, if there were no asics then eth right now would be around 3k usd minimum. No you fail to see long term mining ie year after year after year has completely different tax laws then buy and hold. You have lots of good info but sometime you don't know what you are talkng about. I will mine at a loss for August and Sept. At that point I will start more reduction of mining. I already know what I am willing to lose from August to December this year. About 1k So far I lost 300 in August. The 1k simply will reduce my early year profits and reduce my tax bill. While buying 4k in coins does zero to help tax bills and tax planing. This is USA law I know many places have different laws. But for me to mine and hold the coins say spend 4k on power to earn 3k in coins Gives me more tax benefits then to buy 4k in coins and hold them. Mining and holding the 4k allows me a 4k power cost for taxes this year. Since taxes are 33% 4 k power cost saves me 1333 which makes up for the 1k lost 4k power- 3 k coins - 1 k loss the cost basis for the 3k in coins will be zero when I sell So I gain 333 this year and when I sell in later years I will pay more tax. buying 4k and holding does zero. this year. when I sell cost basis is 4k Buying and holding the 4k spent allows me no power cost for taxes this year. So I gain zero this year and when I sell in later year I will pay less tax. This is a big reason for mining at a loss and you leave it out. So don't. This gives me a possible 1 to 2 years of loss without issues for tax benefits to be taken now. Phil I think you are focusing on a very important point that I left out for the sake of a shorter video. Electric write off and the way those expenses play into taxes. Does anyone work with any tax professionals that tote themselves as experts with cryptocurrency. I’d love to see them weigh in
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August 26, 2018, 07:13:23 PM |
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Remember all those new users who joined last year and we told them to hold off on mining and instead buy coins if they wanted to take risks - well failure to head that advice now I see a lot of posts of new users cursing at crypto.
I know the crypto world is 10x as fast as the fiat world as far as growth and volatility, but what sensible person thought ETH would sustain $5k and BTC would hit $100k so that rigs could pay themselves off in a month. It's almost as bad as the housing bubble.
Sit still, remain calm, turn off the miner (if you're paying over 10 cents/KWH), and see where we are in 6 months. There will be no arise chikun moon rockets under the Christmas tree this year (my opinion anyway). Hopefully 2019 more reasonable ICOs and possibly ETH POS (with corresponding price increase) will make this endeavor worthwhile.
Eth devs looking at pushing back PoS 1-3 more years O_o I’m just here for the Christmas moon rockets It’s funny if you advise users to just buy, as a miner yourself they’ll say you are just saying that so that you can keep all of the mining profits to yourself!!
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August 27, 2018, 06:08:37 AM |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
You say mining at loss? only idiots do that cause it was explained countless of times that doing that you are at double loss, anyway, i do believe there are idiots out there but not as many as you trolls think, 70% of total eth hashrate are asics and asics never mine at loss where gpus is not totally negative at 0.10 per kw, whereas gpus give $0.15 per 30 mhs on eth, asics like the f3, given the same $0.15 to asics + another $0.20 the electricity they save then we can come up with $0.35 per 30 mhs, so each 1.5 ghs f3 give around 20 usd, without any hard work whatsoever, to carry on till market recovers. The only ones still earning money here are asic manufactures, whereas gpu miners get $0.15 per gpu, asics miners like bitman f3 are earning 20 usd per asic, not bad if you ask me and like i said before this crash is due to that, bitmain was earning 100 usd per eth asic, not to mention the other asics which were making much more money, asics destroyed everything again, if there were no asics then eth right now would be around 3k usd minimum. No you fail to see long term mining ie year after year after year has completely different tax laws then buy and hold. You have lots of good info but sometime you don't know what you are talkng about. I will mine at a loss for August and Sept. At that point I will start more reduction of mining. I already know what I am willing to lose from August to December this year. About 1k So far I lost 300 in August. The 1k simply will reduce my early year profits and reduce my tax bill. While buying 4k in coins does zero to help tax bills and tax planing. This is USA law I know many places have different laws. But for me to mine and hold the coins say spend 4k on power to earn 3k in coins Gives me more tax benefits then to buy 4k in coins and hold them. Mining and holding the 4k allows me a 4k power cost for taxes this year. Since taxes are 33% 4 k power cost saves me 1333 which makes up for the 1k lost 4k power- 3 k coins - 1 k loss the cost basis for the 3k in coins will be zero when I sell So I gain 333 this year and when I sell in later years I will pay more tax. buying 4k and holding does zero. this year. when I sell cost basis is 4k Buying and holding the 4k spent allows me no power cost for taxes this year. So I gain zero this year and when I sell in later year I will pay less tax. This is a big reason for mining at a loss and you leave it out. So don't. This gives me a possible 1 to 2 years of loss without issues for tax benefits to be taken now. Phil I think you are focusing on a very important point that I left out for the sake of a shorter video. Electric write off and the way those expenses play into taxes. Does anyone work with any tax professionals that tote themselves as experts with cryptocurrency. I’d love to see them weigh in I've re-read Phil's post about 5 times and it honestly doesn't make much sense (literally and financially). Yes, spending on electricity will lower your tax liability on what you mined. But only to the tune of 33% (or insert your tax rate here). Maybe I have a different definition of mining at a loss, but I define it as spending more on mining than what you are earning, I.E. The money you spent could have instead been spent on buying the coins outright with the results of more coins. Or in other terms, instead of pumping $10 in the claw machine to win the stuffed animal, you could have bought 2 stuffed animals for $10. If you are mining, then you pay taxes on everything you mine. But if you mine and hold, and the currency goes up, then you are still paying capital gains taxes, no different than buying it outright.
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August 27, 2018, 11:48:45 AM |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
... ... ... ... I've re-read Phil's post about 5 times and it honestly doesn't make much sense (literally and financially). Yes, spending on electricity will lower your tax liability on what you mined. But only to the tune of 33% (or insert your tax rate here). Maybe I have a different definition of mining at a loss, but I define it as spending more on mining than what you are earning, I.E. The money you spent could have instead been spent on buying the coins outright with the results of more coins. Or in other terms, instead of pumping $10 in the claw machine to win the stuffed animal, you could have bought 2 stuffed animals for $10. If you are mining, then you pay taxes on everything you mine. But if you mine and hold, and the currency goes up, then you are still paying capital gains taxes, no different than buying it outright. Lets make coins = to 1000 usd example 1 I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 rest of the year I spend 4 k power and earn 3 k in coins loss of 1000 net 4000 gain 33% tax of 1333 in both cases I hodl the coins mined I would have 18 coins if they where 1000 each So I spent 4k what happened this year I lowered my tax bill by 333second example I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 I spend 4k and buy 4k in coins I have 15 coins then 4 coins or 19 coins but I owe 1667 in tax not 1333. end of year that is 333 or 334 loser. but I have 18 coins in example 1 I have 19 coins in example 2 As long as I hodl them example 2 cost me 333 more the example 1 So if those 1000 coins drop to 332 or lower example 1 is the winner. and example 2 is the loser since the plan is to hodl for 5 to 10 years. example 1 has me 333 ahead of example 2 as long as I hodl. If you read the long thread above I did say I can't justify years and years of mining at a loss. But with planning I can mine at a loss from now until December 2017
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
... ... ... ... I've re-read Phil's post about 5 times and it honestly doesn't make much sense (literally and financially). Yes, spending on electricity will lower your tax liability on what you mined. But only to the tune of 33% (or insert your tax rate here). Maybe I have a different definition of mining at a loss, but I define it as spending more on mining than what you are earning, I.E. The money you spent could have instead been spent on buying the coins outright with the results of more coins. Or in other terms, instead of pumping $10 in the claw machine to win the stuffed animal, you could have bought 2 stuffed animals for $10. If you are mining, then you pay taxes on everything you mine. But if you mine and hold, and the currency goes up, then you are still paying capital gains taxes, no different than buying it outright. Lets make coins = to 1000 usd example 1 I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 rest of the year I spend 4 k power and earn 3 k in coins loss of 1000 net 4000 gain 33% tax of 1333 in both cases I hodl the coins mined I would have 18 coins if they where 1000 each So I spent 4k what happened this year I lowered my tax bill by 333second example I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 I spend 4k and buy 4k in coins I have 15 coins then 4 coins or 19 coins but I owe 1667 in tax not 1333. end of year that is 333 or 334 loser. but I have 18 coins in example 1 I have 19 coins in example 2 As long as I hodl them example 2 cost me 333 more the example 1 So if those 1000 coins drop to 332 or lower example 1 is the winner. and example 2 is the loser since the plan is to hodl for 5 to 10 years. example 1 has me 333 ahead of example 2 as long as I hodl. If you read the long thread above I did say I can't justify years and years of mining at a loss. But with planning I can mine at a loss from now until December 2017 In fact to explain a bit more I am 333 or 334 ahead in cash for 2018 I am 18 coins vs 19 coins. In 2019 december I sell 1 coin in both examples. so I am 333/334 ahead in cash for 2018 in 2019 I am even as I sold 1 coin in both examples and my coins are 17 and 18 sell 1 coin in 2021 2023 2025 2027 even all those years. coins are 13 and 14 I am still yet to see the real loss sell 1 coin in 2030 2033 2036 even all those year. coins are 10 and 11 I am still yet to see the real loss sell 2 coins in 2037 2039 2041 2043 even all those years coins are 2 and 3 I am still yet to see the real loss sell a coin in 2044 2047 even all this years and I now am 90 years old. 0 coins left in example 1 1 coin left in example 2 and still yet to suffer the loss as I did not sell that coin so for 29 years I am 333 usd ahead. and in year 30 I fall behind by the value of 1 coin only if I sell it.
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August 28, 2018, 12:08:54 AM |
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Why does no one talk about the rate of ADOPTION...as in the actual USE OF BTC as a currency... Well because it is a JOKE..total failure. The rate of adoption is pathetic BECAUSE no one will buy or use it while it is so vulnerable to exchange speculators and MEGA FARMS who enjoy the cheap production and monopoly over it. mega farms of cheap electricity have indeed KILLED BTC mining....and destroyed any chance of wide spread adoption. Equally guilty are the parasitic exchanges and whale speculators.
I will NEVER pay for BTC or use it or accept it. I'll mine the shit out of my tiny farm and sell most IMMEDIATELY and never upgrade or reinvest in gear again.
BTC died LONG AGO...People just don't understand that they are just profiting off it's funeral. It NEVER had a chance...the rich banking power elite was NEVER going to tolerate loosing it's grasp on the power to CREATE MONEY. They got caught napping but greed ensured BTC would be delivered right into their arms. And here we are. Bitcoin core is OWNED by AXA insurance of Zurich...the chairman is a Bilderberg
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August 28, 2018, 12:55:14 AM Last edit: August 28, 2018, 01:08:58 AM by Metroid |
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Where I live, we dont pay taxes if buying coins, only if we profit from it, for example, if i buy 4k in coins, i will not pay taxes at all, if those 4k in coins become 8k or any other value above 4k within a year then i will pay 15% from anything i made after 4k. So for example, if coins are worth 4100 usd after a year and i bought at 4k and i sell then i will pay 15% of 100 usd which is 15 usd. As for mining is the same 15%, so all in all for me buying coins is a lot more profitable than turning my money on a double loss. Well, like i said before everyone has to make their own calculation and determine what is worth more, that is the reason i say mining to be profitable only if returns your money in less than 100 days, buying and selling is way more profitable for me. Last year I earned 2000% by selling and buying, my friend mining made only 150% and mining was profitable, imagine now that since march mining is not profitable at all and I'm still earning money from buying and selling and my friend, well, shut off his gpus. To finalize, if coins crash from 4k to 2k usd, i will never pay anything until coins are above 4k and i decide to sell, if i dont sell then i will never pay taxes, as for mining, my friend shut off his computers because first as the equipment is paid off, anything he mines is 15% tax + electricity, altcoins at these prices, he is losing on electricity and he needs to pay 15% of tax and plus equipment is being devalued , so this is actually a triple loss, probably if you think about is a quad loss.
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I too also unplugged my miner last month and ended up selling it. It's just not worth it at this time.
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