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March 02, 2014, 08:37:04 PM
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I cant find my name on the list.

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I was post #91 on part 2 thread

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March 02, 2014, 08:38:11 PM
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does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!
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March 02, 2014, 08:49:02 PM
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does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!


Different btc addresses in the same group have connection so in this case there are 120+ accounts.

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March 02, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
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does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!


Different btc addresses in the same group have connection so in this case there are 120+ accounts.

how crazy is that?
I think we should talk about these fraudsters to give back their money ...
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March 02, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
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does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!


Different btc addresses in the same group have connection so in this case there are 120+ accounts.

how crazy is that?
I think we should talk about these fraudsters to give back their money ...

People r very greedy.
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March 02, 2014, 09:32:05 PM
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That's quite impressive how much work and devotion is put into this project. Keep up the good work!
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March 02, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
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Probably sock puppets:

qingmu1992
lingyong1992
opera1992
shiyang1992
moke1983
zhiyan1993
qq1949
moke1992
zaizai12
xiangping1968
xianglan
huluwa12

Proof:

Code:
Acct:2312811777137580821
 Transaction:8098975015971248586  (qingmu1992)
 Transaction:11614911645886603099 (qingmu1992)
 Transaction:14783067360181916579 (qingmu1992)
 Transaction:12890798129285080991  (NXT-E IPO)
 Acct:9968506137018059284
  Transaction:7814464803154971271 (lingyong1992)
  Acct:14328797170298457080
   Transaction:10478033512206924612 (opera1992)
 Acct:7163239920907299723
  Transaction:9616209276352891825 (shiyang1992)
 Acct:8690371038790998433
  Transaction:5690247917380693903 (moke1983)
 Acct:7968383640421747277
  Transaction:16536620690274886201 (zhiyan1993)
 Acct:13086047733860211300
  Transaction:6179073214910482622 (qq1949)
 Acct:8974395790932007447
  Transaction:8189249991089254860 (huluwa12)
 Acct:15995794353745140052
  Transaction:2327130895911973846 (moke1992)
 Acct:14567309650087644908
  Transaction:8600168725740938854 (zaizai12)
 Acct:2685630417863227023
  Transaction:14505402284988350066 (xiangping1968)
 Acct:11089706502495131287
  Transaction:16026516533707517722 (xianglan)
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March 02, 2014, 09:39:43 PM
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does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!


Different btc addresses in the same group have connection so in this case there are 120+ accounts.

let's pay careful attention in 120+ accounts in group 1. Most of them belong to group 3 activity which mean these accounts are made solely for registering NEM. Could Kooream elaborate more on the connection between these accounts ?

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March 02, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
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It's great to see you doing this. Wish you had listened to me back on page 40~ when I alerted you of this...

Would've been much easier to prevent than to go through thousands, but hopefully some will!
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March 02, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
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It's great to see you doing this. Wish you had listened to me back on page 40~ when I alerted you of this...

Would've been much easier to prevent than to go through thousands, but hopefully some will!

It has always been planned.

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March 02, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
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Restarted as it seems to be better to not transfer the data away from google sheet Smiley



Number1 Account1    Number2 Account2          hash which is common to Account1 and Account2
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2749 falseflag14   2760 Knisch   1.67E+019
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1575 antibitcoinconsortiumY   1586 taylormcm   14343293611098700000
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1304 yeyo   1402 gsxrl3oi   1.17E+019
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2210 j23a   2341 botija   1.06E+019
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1748 lenco   1872 dianeshin   9.74E+018
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1831 Carrera2   1848 Emill   7.86E+018
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1791 misterbowls   1862 durygupta   2.68E+018
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1532 sfinder   1549 sfinder   295163239033833000

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139 linfujun   602 linfujun                          ? ? ?
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1836 glockenspiel                  1853 sia331    
e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef

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2429 TaporizER       2461 NEM_coin     ce5e6615803b7a22b1c9b9393cc7d3d2b78ac96d1da2a1b593da3c8db7c29f94
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1205 Frogster         1265 calduncan1978   c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655
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466 coinlover57           471 pacm4n   8f00fea919855adbedbcba6f2818052eb1362414caf5f1d3f64ff22256d2da1a

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2218 busywoman                     2219 vaperension   74004fc5f6fa2b9b8c5ee2a70dcb2951fd30208255457d968e738aad42c5085e
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352 SyRenity             353 PeercoinEnthusiast   4b8b2427f28d8b12587ff2e418ab91c9de514c018d624daf75e49d81ba13d185
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2088 mr.pj   2167 c2e   2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1

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1008 ABCdeBTC       1009 xeroc
   21cab4f770401cdaa42737229a1e97559c91d93af641d93fc3a091cb05630cde
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1774 dwma      1863 holeefuk   1ed23c834d4d24a399eaf2415ff35f7530c0ba96233f74b412c1fd60f1e32639
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1797 deathsky   1870 fordfella   03cd004583088fd92dd23fdae45bd7bda4c4f838d03c36956a05c5e1a1fe6156


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March 02, 2014, 09:53:42 PM
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Restarted as it seems to be better to not transfer the data away from google sheet Smiley



Number1 Account1    Number2 Account2          hash which is common to Account1 and Account2
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466 coinlover57   471 pacm4n   8f00fea919855adbedbcba6f2818052eb1362414caf5f1d3f64ff22256d2da1a
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352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast             4b8b2427f28d8b12587ff2e418ab91c9de514c018d624daf75e49d81ba13d185

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2749 falseflag14   2760 Knisch             1.67E+019

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2667 Caesar V   2668 m4hr   24ede3fb300e2b58bfbd182e08a8b7e432efaebe67fcee754290f272d736ca07
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2429 TaporizER   2461 NEM_coin   ce5e6615803b7a22b1c9b9393cc7d3d2b78ac96d1da2a1b593da3c8db7c29f94
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2218 busywoman   2219 vaperension   74004fc5f6fa2b9b8c5ee2a70dcb2951fd30208255457d968e738aad42c5085e
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2210 j23a   2341 botija   1.06E+019
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2088 mr.pj   2167 c2e   2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1
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1868 babyfacebrother   1884 Afraid138Of 2a8d30299480fbc43ef39a4b66b33442ecb83accf382609862927b762daec112

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1842 Megalodon25   1875 eBeth   1.34E+019
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1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018
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1839 cafedelmar   1855 bmr1   f55b0f46e2a61323a1e27a0eccbf04d2f0e6c65df6069e40c4f7325473a46b51

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1836 glockenspiel   1853 sia331   e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef
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1835 AndyMOOR   1852 f376   1.15E+019
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1831 Carrera2   1848 Emill   7.86E+018
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1797 deathsky   1870 fordfella   03cd004583088fd92dd23fdae45bd7bda4c4f838d03c36956a05c5e1a1fe6156
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1791 misterbowls   1862 durygupta   2.68E+018
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1774 dwma   1863 holeefuk   1ed23c834d4d24a399eaf2415ff35f7530c0ba96233f74b412c1fd60f1e32639
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1748 lenco   1872 dianeshin   9.74E+018
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1728 Rideglia   1746 RaiderR   17cd5e776fa7d95c83c00dfbcc8c5446e4c7ffd4e00fd07ea59df622dfdbf369
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1724 Canthimortel   1735 rai00   3.35E+018
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1719 fONSORNOTO   1728 Rideglia   17cd5e776fa7d95c83c00dfbcc8c5446e4c7ffd4e00fd07ea59df622dfdbf369

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1699 DrSweizer   1708 rhythmic   eb94ee3c0d5a66284b3f1625270a8136d969c37613b71d34f570dac8868bcedd

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1575 antibitcoinconsortiumY   1586 taylormcm   14343293611098700000

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1532 sfinder   1549 sfinder   295163239033833000

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139 linfujun   602 linfujun   Huh

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1304 yeyo   1402 gsxrl3oi   1.17E+019

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1205 Frogster   1265 calduncan1978   c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655

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1008 ABCdeBTC   1009 xeroc   21cab4f770401cdaa42737229a1e97559c91d93af641d93fc3a091cb05630cde


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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

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March 02, 2014, 10:19:34 PM
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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


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March 02, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
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I am just passing by, and have not looked deep enough into this, so please forgive me, if I misunderstand what you are doing, BUT:

THIS IS GREAT!  
As a side effect of your NEM-project, you have created ... something like a honey pot ... for identifying clusters of sockpuppets? Wow. Kudos.


I think you should not only include those clusters of sock puppets which were only created for NEM. You will find older clusters of sockpuppets which are just recycled for this.    Because scammers might be doing the same thing over and over again with their mob of puppets.  

A lookup service (or simply a forum page with updated warnings about certain users) is a possible product. www.sockpuppets.net or www.sockpuppetshaming.net or www.wallofshame.net  or www.shameonyounickname.net  :-)

Anyways, thanks for all this detective work you are doing here.


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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


Thanks for pointing this out. I probably missed a step in making Thread 2. Will update the list soon. Noted for your contribution.

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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


Thanks for pointing this out. I probably missed a step in making Thread 2. Will update the list soon. Noted for your contribution.

Updated the list up there.
Added IF(cell="Y") ...   10 account pairs dropped from the list, but still both SyRenity and PeercoinEnthusiast want to be there Smiley

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c2e        mr.pj   

2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1   
2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1      
   c2e claimed : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450200.msg5113680#msg5113680      
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4925452#msg4925452
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I had this resolved a while back, the list must not of been fixed.

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March 02, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
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Pardon me but what exactly are you doing??

In your initial stakeholder creation anouncement you more or less encuraged every person that likes, to create sockpuppets, it was perfectly fine then and now you call them, that did so, out here?

Those persons didn't do anything bad illegal or nasty they just used what you offered.

Certainly I do not like people hamstering stacks, I self reserved only 1, but if I were one of them I would be angry now. The bad thing was your offer not their actions.
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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


Thanks for pointing this out. I probably missed a step in making Thread 2. Will update the list soon. Noted for your contribution.

Updated the list up there.
Added IF(cell="Y") ...   10 account pairs dropped from the list, but still both SyRenity and PeercoinEnthusiast want to be there Smiley



When two accounts had the same hash but consecutive. What likely happened is that they sent the money almost at the same time and checked blockchain.info for the hash  found the wrong one. That happened in this case as both are veteran accounts and I have asked them about it.

Fraudsters often took a hash a bit further away to create a distance.

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March 02, 2014, 11:07:15 PM
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Pardon me but what exactly are you doing??

In your initial stakeholder creation anouncement you more or less encuraged every person that likes, to create sockpuppets, it was perfectly fine then and now you call them, that did so, out here?

Those persons didn't do anything bad illegal or nasty they just used what you offered.

Certainly I do not like people hamstering stacks, I self reserved only 1, but if I were one of them I would be angry now. The bad thing was your offer not their actions.


Sorry if you or they misunderstood. Making sockpuppet accounts to claim more stakes are not what we offered. No one said about something illegal or nasty. We just don't accept contributions from certain cases which is entirely within our rights. Read the opener carefully first.

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