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March 23, 2014, 06:20:44 AM
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I have reread the original launch document, as well as the updated front page and while ALL of my other requests (through PM and on the forum) have been effectively ignored, allow me to try again. This time in a more aggressively enumerated fashion.

This coin is about a month old. There are lots of positive signs. A growing market cap, active exchange for its age, great concept and a forward thinking objective. However....

1: Where is the poker room? In all product launches, there are hangups. I don't expect everything to go smoothly, but if this is to be an active, open community that fosters faith and development, I expect the developers to keep the community informed, even if information is to explain a delay. The "In a couple days" has been pitched since the beginning for the month. Is something wrong with the implementation? Since the first goal date was missed, what is the new goal date?

2: A lot of emphasis on your final objective is focused on usability in the end market (ie. ability to exchange for product.) How do you intend on getting there? That's a lofty goal, so I'm curious what your plan is. I sent money to the marketplace to buy a game called Blockland. It's still pending, so something is odd there.

3: You're asking for over $1000.00 from the community for an online wallet, an Android wallet, and a place on an exchange I've never heard of. I propose to you, that while those things are nifty features, how exactly do they help forward the goals of this coin? Is there really such a clambering for an Android wallet, that you believe that is the main thing your coin currently lacks? I believe there are significantly more important things that could be done with 1200 dollars. Getting on a well known exchange, actual marketing (buying advertisements,) Programing new USABLE features, such as additions to the online casino, which could actually have a small percentage take to help fund future projects. In fact expanding the poker room into an online Vegas style casino could reap a small fortune.

You should be focused on increased exposure, and implementing things that generate revenue. I assume you've done your research and aren't just piddling away money, can you explain why those things are taking precedence of the things I've mentioned?

4: As has been suggested multiple times, actual updates, perhaps daily (and not just friendly hellos) would go a long way in garnering faith in the coin. Even if there's nothing to report.

5: Again, an actual roadmap that list ALL current objectives, and how you plan to achieve them. That really should be the very first thing you do.

Again, I hate sounding negative. I really do think this is one of the more promising Altcoins and I very much want it to do well. But I'm growing very concerned with the vague non-answers. I've asked these questions in a numbered fashion, to avoid confusion I ask that you kindly answer them in the same.

This coin can definitely go places. Please work on fostering a community, because the community drives the coin. This time of increasing block reward is already drawing attention. Now is the time for a media blitzkrieg. Instead we appear to have a Sitzkreig.

I have a significant mining operation devoted to this coin. I've donated a lot of the coin I've mined. I'm not just some sideliner making silly demands. These are fair questions from an active patron in your business structure.

And if you are having genuine hangups or issues please don't stay silent about it.  A lot of folks here are very optimistic about the potential here and are willing to offer expertise.  Hell you could buy expertise with BTC if need be.
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March 23, 2014, 08:52:32 AM
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I agree with the post above, and also think this coin could have a bright future if the devs and the community work together.
That is why i donated your first btc donation Wink, to give you some incentive and so you know people believe in you.
This coin had the fairest lunch in have seen in my short time with altcoins, and all of us that believe in it's potential should help the devs out.
I really like the artwork and whole futuristic feel of credits, i think the market for it could be huge.
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March 23, 2014, 10:09:39 AM
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1: Where is the poker room? In all product launches, there are hangups. I don't expect everything to go smoothly, but if this is to be an active, open community that fosters faith and development, I expect the developers to keep the community informed, even if information is to explain a delay. The "In a couple days" has been pitched since the beginning for the month. Is something wrong with the implementation? Since the first goal date was missed, what is the new goal date?

3: *In fact expanding the poker room into an online Vegas style casino could reap a small fortune.

Totally agree on this point. Movement of credits and the ability to use them will create value. This is true for anything. Simple economics, supply and demand. Atm there is an abundance of supply, just no real demand since there is no place to use them (this is true for a lot of alt-coins ofc. But to avoid credits being dumped would be wise to at least give an Eta on the poker room.

3: You're asking for over $1000.00 from the community for an online wallet, an Android wallet, and a place on an exchange I've never heard of. I propose to you, that while those things are nifty features, how exactly do they help forward the goals of this coin? Is there really such a clambering for an Android wallet, that you believe that is the main thing your coin currently lacks? I believe there are significantly more important things that could be done with 1200 dollars. Getting on a well known exchange, actual marketing (buying advertisements,)
$1000- $1200 honestly really isnt that much considering the work and time it must surely take to build all things. I do however agree that the android wallet shouldnt be the main priority atm. Exchanges are nice and all, but it just means that there are more places to sell the coin. Today's alt-coins are just all to eager to get on an exchange. Exchange does not mean value, it just means value can be determined. And if there is no backing of value by community, prices will drop.

I have a significant mining operation devoted to this coin. I've donated a lot of the coin I've mined. I'm not just some sideliner making silly demands. These are fair questions from an active patron in your business structure.
I only have a simple miner pointed at credits. But i agree that miners are in a way investors in a coin. THey have a voice and a right to be heard and take seriously as they are stakeholders in a coin. Loose the miners faith and you will create a dump. Keep the faith and your stakeholders happy and value will rise.

All in all marhaben made some excellent points. And i do hope you will take the time to answer all the best you can.

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March 23, 2014, 04:57:31 PM
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I have reread the original launch document, as well as the updated front page and while ALL of my other requests (through PM and on the forum) have been effectively ignored, allow me to try again. This time in a more aggressively enumerated fashion.

This coin is about a month old. There are lots of positive signs. A growing market cap, active exchange for its age, great concept and a forward thinking objective. However....

1: Where is the poker room? In all product launches, there are hangups. I don't expect everything to go smoothly, but if this is to be an active, open community that fosters faith and development, I expect the developers to keep the community informed, even if information is to explain a delay. The "In a couple days" has been pitched since the beginning for the month. Is something wrong with the implementation? Since the first goal date was missed, what is the new goal date?

2: A lot of emphasis on your final objective is focused on usability in the end market (ie. ability to exchange for product.) How do you intend on getting there? That's a lofty goal, so I'm curious what your plan is. I sent money to the marketplace to buy a game called Blockland. It's still pending, so something is odd there.

3: You're asking for over $1000.00 from the community for an online wallet, an Android wallet, and a place on an exchange I've never heard of. I propose to you, that while those things are nifty features, how exactly do they help forward the goals of this coin? Is there really such a clambering for an Android wallet, that you believe that is the main thing your coin currently lacks? I believe there are significantly more important things that could be done with 1200 dollars. Getting on a well known exchange, actual marketing (buying advertisements,) Programing new USABLE features, such as additions to the online casino, which could actually have a small percentage take to help fund future projects. In fact expanding the poker room into an online Vegas style casino could reap a small fortune.

You should be focused on increased exposure, and implementing things that generate revenue. I assume you've done your research and aren't just piddling away money, can you explain why those things are taking precedence of the things I've mentioned?

4: As has been suggested multiple times, actual updates, perhaps daily (and not just friendly hellos) would go a long way in garnering faith in the coin. Even if there's nothing to report.

5: Again, an actual roadmap that list ALL current objectives, and how you plan to achieve them. That really should be the very first thing you do.

Again, I hate sounding negative. I really do think this is one of the more promising Altcoins and I very much want it to do well. But I'm growing very concerned with the vague non-answers. I've asked these questions in a numbered fashion, to avoid confusion I ask that you kindly answer them in the same.

This coin can definitely go places. Please work on fostering a community, because the community drives the coin. This time of increasing block reward is already drawing attention. Now is the time for a media blitzkrieg. Instead we appear to have a Sitzkreig.

I have a significant mining operation devoted to this coin. I've donated a lot of the coin I've mined. I'm not just some sideliner making silly demands. These are fair questions from an active patron in your business structure.

And if you are having genuine hangups or issues please don't stay silent about it.  A lot of folks here are very optimistic about the potential here and are willing to offer expertise.  Hell you could buy expertise with BTC if need be.

Okay sorry everyone about ignoring all of your posts yesterday, I pretty much worked all day and passed out when I got home.  

1: Where is the poker room? In all product launches, there are hangups. I don't expect everything to go smoothly, but if this is to be an active, open community that fosters faith and development, I expect the developers to keep the community informed, even if information is to explain a delay. The "In a couple days" has been pitched since the beginning for the month. Is something wrong with the implementation? Since the first goal date was missed, what is the new goal date?

  At first, we thought that it would be possible to make the poker room a subdomain of our main site, it was also quickly discovered that we will have to make a dedicated website for it.  I can attribute the previous delays to the previous freelancers not being able to do it (when they said they could), and another dev that had some trouble come up and he had to quit the project.  However we recently added a new dev to our team, he's a full time software developer so at least now all of the work will be done in house as opposed to before.  Goal date is April 10th now, and it will be a lot better than what I posted earlier.  The reason why it's so much later than usual is because as we are making a dedicated site for it, so it will also be a LOT easier to implement other games that we are planning, like slots blackjack etc.  

TL;DR: Release date is April 10th due to us making a dedicated website for this, with the ability to add new games to it in the future and eventually expand into a full casino.  

2: A lot of emphasis on your final objective is focused on usability in the end market (ie. ability to exchange for product.) How do you intend on getting there? That's a lofty goal, so I'm curious what your plan is. I sent money to the marketplace to buy a game called Blockland. It's still pending, so something is odd there.

  Essentially creating services such as the marketplace, poker room, other such sites that create actual functionality of Credits.  I'll have a bit more on this later as we're currently discussing what our next project will be.  As for your marketplace purchase, I'm guessing it's an inactive seller.  Lots of sellers put stuff up the first day Credits were released, and completely forgot about the products that they listed.  If you post your address I'll give you a refund right now, unless you want to wait and see if the seller will respond.


3: You're asking for over $1000.00 from the community for an online wallet, an Android wallet, and a place on an exchange I've never heard of. I propose to you, that while those things are nifty features, how exactly do they help forward the goals of this coin? Is there really such a clambering for an Android wallet, that you believe that is the main thing your coin currently lacks? I believe there are significantly more important things that could be done with 1200 dollars. Getting on a well known exchange, actual marketing (buying advertisements,) Programing new USABLE features, such as additions to the online casino, which could actually have a small percentage take to help fund future projects. In fact expanding the poker room into an online Vegas style casino could reap a small fortune.


  Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of this.  That was more me hearing people say that they wanted an Android wallet + online wallet as fast as possible(not on here but on most of the other platforms like Facebook, Reddit).  We're thinking about buying advertising, just have to allocate our funding towards that wisely obviously.  As I said in response to #1, a full casino is our end goal.  

4: As has been suggested multiple times, actual updates, perhaps daily (and not just friendly hellos) would go a long way in garnering faith in the coin. Even if there's nothing to report.

  Makes sense, definitely will start doing that.  

5: Again, an actual roadmap that list ALL current objectives, and how you plan to achieve them. That really should be the very first thing you do.

  Yep the fellow devs and I are talking right now about our next steps forward, and will update the OP with our future plans.    

Thanks for your input, obviously we don't want to ignore any of our users (especially miners), and it's great to hear that you guys want to see more of the actual functionality implemented sooner than some of the other stuff (Android wallet, etc).  I really appreciate this input, don't worry about sounding negative as you guys should be as truthful as possible when giving feedback.  
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Answers and stuff


Thank you very much! Glad to hear all of that. Can't wait to see what all is in store.

Also, stable market cap hit 6100 today! By the end of the week, it will likely be well above 10k STABLE. Exciting times. And this is prior to the reward block lowering, who knows where it will get to in the next 60 days, with the proposed releases you mentioned.
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March 23, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
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Are the addnodes listed on cryptocointalk still correct?  I'm trying to mine solo or, if I have time setup a new p2pool but having no luck connecting.  I've only done it once before so could be missing something completely obvious.  I have the config file along with all the client files in appdata/roaming/credits and my miner is pointed at 127.0.0.1:51118 with the user and pass listed in my config file. Wallet is synched and running.
Any help would be great!
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March 23, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
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Hey just reminding everyone about the faucet http://pinoycrypto.com/faucets/credits/ !
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March 23, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
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Updates:

Poker Room:  Since we have decided to make a dedicated site for it, this will take a bit longer than a simple web app, however we will be able to add other casino games as well, which will be better in the long run.  Release is April 10th, or earlier.

Some other things that we are working on:

Forum

    - While we currently have a forum on Cryptocointalk, we feel that it would be within our best interests to have a dedicated site for a forum, most likely creditstalk.org. Look for this to be up in five days or less.

Payment Gateway

    - This will be similar to https://bitpay.com/, as in online merchants/freelancers/charities will be able to accept Credits. Release in 2.5-3 weeks
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March 24, 2014, 02:00:16 AM
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Hey just reminding everyone about the faucet http://pinoycrypto.com/faucets/credits/ !

Just donated 10,000 Cr.
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March 24, 2014, 02:08:42 AM
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Hey just reminding everyone about the faucet http://pinoycrypto.com/faucets/credits/ !

Doubled it up at 26820.70 Cr and a few Crs to the faucet owner.
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Hey just reminding everyone about the faucet http://pinoycrypto.com/faucets/credits/ !

Doubled it up at 26820.70 Cr and a few Crs to the faucet owner.

Awesome, he definitely deserves it! 
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Hey just reminding everyone about the faucet http://pinoycrypto.com/faucets/credits/ !

Doubled it up at 26820.70 Cr and a few Crs to the faucet owner.

Hey, thanks a lot!

also : setting up the forum and let the dev announce when it's done. Smiley
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Fantastic updates. If you continue to be this proactive on the communication front, this coin will garner a community like Feathercoin.

ETA: Regarding updates, I think Worldcoin has an excellent model for that. Perhaps you could do something similar for your main website

http://www.worldcoinalliance.net/worldcoin-news-and-announcements/

Interested parties who don't want to dig through thousands of forum posts can simply see right off the bat that the Devs are constantly involved, maybe even put a "ticker" on the main page, something that shows at first glance from the home page that things are moving along.

It may seem petty, but this is the very basis of marketing. Ease of notice. Think of the ways 99.9%of people will first find your coin, and make sure what they'll see (the gateway) conveys an active dev team, and a growing coin.
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March 24, 2014, 07:08:09 PM
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Hey guys here is our official forum, post in this thread to receive 200 Credits!  Don't forgot to post in the other subforums as well!

http://www.creditstalk.org/announcement/welcome-to-credits-talk!-first-50-people-to-post-their-address-get-200-credits!/

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Fantastic updates. If you continue to be this proactive on the communication front, this coin will garner a community like Feathercoin.

ETA: Regarding updates, I think Worldcoin has an excellent model for that. Perhaps you could do something similar for your main website

http://www.worldcoinalliance.net/worldcoin-news-and-announcements/

Interested parties who don't want to dig through thousands of forum posts can simply see right off the bat that the Devs are constantly involved, maybe even put a "ticker" on the main page, something that shows at first glance from the home page that things are moving along.

It may seem petty, but this is the very basis of marketing. Ease of notice. Think of the ways 99.9%of people will first find your coin, and make sure what they'll see (the gateway) conveys an active dev team, and a growing coin.

Thanks, yeah Worldcoin and Feathercoin definitely are two coins that can attribute their success to fantastic communities, and of course that can't come without devs making that happen.  Good points, we're definitely going to start making updates at least at a bi-weekly rate. 
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March 24, 2014, 09:34:25 PM
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is there a block explorer on the horizon?
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CLEANqxXXybtbYS1WJQYJ1o4FBP4Q9q3TJ
CREDSECbvBTHYV6vMNY3LZ2nK9q6CARRKb

is there a block explorer on the horizon?

There is one right now, in the future we'll be making one officially though most likely.

Edit: Forgot to link it http://explorer.sancrypto.info/chain/Credits
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March 25, 2014, 03:28:37 PM
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Is there any plan to move Credits to X11 + Dark Gravity Wave to secure against ASICs and multipools and make mining more fair, especially with very high reward blocks coming soon, which will attract miners with extremely high hashrate?

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Is there any plan to move Credits to X11 + Dark Gravity Wave to secure against ASICs and multipools and make mining more fair, especially with very high reward blocks coming soon, which will attract miners with extremely high hashrate?

-1 . I like the ASICs, I can chuck a few low wattage units and a raspberry pi board in a closet and forget about it. IMO the coin that needs to be "ASIC-proof" , or whatever bullshit phrases are flowing on this forum , in order to survive , does not deserve to survive . And ASICs can secure and sustain a network much more efficiently than GPUs ever could, and IMO are much more beneficial to a given coin.  Leave it at scrypt please!
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Is there any plan to move Credits to X11 + Dark Gravity Wave to secure against ASICs and multipools and make mining more fair, especially with very high reward blocks coming soon, which will attract miners with extremely high hashrate?

-1 . I like the ASICs, I can chuck a few low wattage units and a raspberry pi board in a closet and forget about it. IMO the coin that needs to be "ASIC-proof" , or whatever bullshit phrases are flowing on this forum , in order to survive , does not deserve to survive . And ASICs can secure and sustain a network much more efficiently than GPUs ever could, and IMO are much more beneficial to a given coin.  Leave it at scrypt please!
Get back to Bitcoin if you like ASICs. Scrypt's purpose since the beginning was to have an algo that could be mined profitably by GPUs. Now that Scrypt ASICs are available that's not possible anymore, so it's time to move on to another scrypt-proof algo.
This is especially true for this coin, since a fast hike in hashrate would easily kill it.

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