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March 03, 2014, 01:37:34 AM
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Tried searching for an answer to this without success - Armory shows incoming transaction having 371 confirmations while blockchain shows transaction still as unconfirmed after 2 days. am i reading this wrongly? appreciate any help, inputs

https://blockchain.info/address/12vjsMhC7MFyWddenGb7WCc6cEJjdagLg1

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March 03, 2014, 02:06:29 AM
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I suspect this is actually an issue with blockchain.info:

(1) blockr.io shows it with 375 confirmations
(2) biteasy.com also shows 375 confirmations
(3) There's no reason for such a large transaction with a sufficient fee, to not have been mined after 2 days

Maybe blockchain.info is on a fork?  Or simply, their software is misbehaving?  Either way, it seems like Armory is correct Smiley

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March 03, 2014, 02:59:29 AM
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I suspect this is actually an issue with blockchain.info:

(1) blockr.io shows it with 375 confirmations
(2) biteasy.com also shows 375 confirmations
(3) There's no reason for such a large transaction with a sufficient fee, to not have been mined after 2 days

Maybe blockchain.info is on a fork?  Or simply, their software is misbehaving?  Either way, it seems like Armory is correct Smiley

Thanks etotheipi for the speedy response. At least my own understanding of this is still ok.

If blockchain.info is incorrect or on a fork, whats the implications if i start spending these coins immediately? How do i know for sure subsequent transactions from this address will not have any issues under either blockchain.info or actual blockchain itself?
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March 03, 2014, 03:26:07 AM
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Thanks etotheipi for the speedy response. At least my own understanding of this is still ok.

If blockchain.info is incorrect or on a fork, whats the implications if i start spending these coins immediately? How do i know for sure subsequent transactions from this address will not have any issues under either blockchain.info or actual blockchain itself?

I just submitted a ticket to the blockchain.info support desk.  I also confirmed with gmaxwell that he sees the transaction confirmed on his blockchain, as well.  Definitely a BC.i problem.

Ultimately, this doesn't mean anything -- BC.i is not "bitcoin"... they are just run a service that lets you browse the network easily, but their window seems to be a bit foggy.  It seems that everyone else has a better view of the network than they do.
 
The implications are simply that anyone using blockchain.info to verify payments, etc, will not agree with you.  It seems you may have to wait for BC.i to figure out what happened, and if that's a problem, point the other party to non-BC.i websites (or their own desktop wallet) that shows the transaction is actually confirmed.  I'm not sure how they can be out of sync for long... maybe it's a DB problem?  Maybe they'll fix it soon.


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March 03, 2014, 07:24:05 AM
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Ultimately, this doesn't mean anything -- BC.i is not "bitcoin"... they are just run a service that lets you browse the network easily, but their window seems to be a bit foggy.  It seems that everyone else has a better view of the network than they do.

I have a BC.i wallet.  Unfortunately, it is not at all uncommon for them to lose contact with the rest of the network. 
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March 03, 2014, 08:23:40 AM
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I just submitted a ticket to the blockchain.info support desk.  I also confirmed with gmaxwell that he sees the transaction confirmed on his blockchain, as well.  Definitely a BC.i problem.

etotheipi, thanks for this. Rather than opening multiple enquiry tickets with blockchain.info, appreciate if you could share any response back from them on this issue subsequently. Thanks




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March 03, 2014, 08:32:00 AM
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I have a BC.i wallet.  Unfortunately, it is not at all uncommon for them to lose contact with the rest of the network. 

The tendenacy for most (or at least me earlier) is to assume blockchain.info to be the definitive window to the blockchain. It could in fact be falliable like any other app tool out there. Lets see ...
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March 03, 2014, 08:38:34 PM
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Ultimately, this doesn't mean anything -- BC.i is not "bitcoin"... they are just run a service that lets you browse the network easily, but their window seems to be a bit foggy.  It seems that everyone else has a better view of the network than they do.

I have a BC.i wallet.  Unfortunately, it is not at all uncommon for them to lose contact with the rest of the network.  

As someone who runs a few services that automate bitcoin related things, I also have this issue, so far five people have contacted me about my service not recognizing their payment, four have used blockchain.info (Last one using Coinbase, and, coinbase was just delaying to combine multiple withdraws together).

Granted, it's normally auto-solved after two or three blocks once Blockchain rebroadcasts their user's transactions that aren't confirmed yet.

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March 05, 2014, 08:17:05 AM
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Til today i.e. T+4, blockchain.info is still reflecting this 4.7 btc as unconfirmed.  (https://blockchain.info/address/12vjsMhC7MFyWddenGb7WCc6cEJjdagLg1)

Bitstamp who performed the transfer is 'taichi-ing' to say Bitcoin transactions confirmation is dependent on the "Bitcoin Network" and since they have send the BTC bitcoin network is now in control of them and that we should contact them and ask them for assistance.

wonder if i should just transfer everything from this address into another address to see how goes. however my best guess is blockchain.info will reflect this new transaction as unconfirmed as well .....
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March 05, 2014, 11:32:43 AM
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Til today i.e. T+4, blockchain.info is still reflecting this 4.7 btc as unconfirmed.  (https://blockchain.info/address/12vjsMhC7MFyWddenGb7WCc6cEJjdagLg1)

Bitstamp who performed the transfer is 'taichi-ing' to say Bitcoin transactions confirmation is dependent on the "Bitcoin Network" and since they have send the BTC bitcoin network is now in control of them and that we should contact them and ask them for assistance.

wonder if i should just transfer everything from this address into another address to see how goes. however my best guess is blockchain.info will reflect this new transaction as unconfirmed as well .....


That tx is confirmed with 743 confirmations (at present).  blockchain.info is broken it seems. 
http://blockr.io/tx/info/9b0c8d25d31626cabdd4e5dd6587fb592d67d0d5fd5a85974a9096ef0a99e717


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March 05, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
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Til today i.e. T+4, blockchain.info is still reflecting this 4.7 btc as unconfirmed.  (https://blockchain.info/address/12vjsMhC7MFyWddenGb7WCc6cEJjdagLg1)

Bitstamp who performed the transfer is 'taichi-ing' to say Bitcoin transactions confirmation is dependent on the "Bitcoin Network" and since they have send the BTC bitcoin network is now in control of them and that we should contact them and ask them for assistance.

wonder if i should just transfer everything from this address into another address to see how goes. however my best guess is blockchain.info will reflect this new transaction as unconfirmed as well .....


That tx is confirmed with 743 confirmations (at present).  blockchain.info is broken it seems. 
http://blockr.io/tx/info/9b0c8d25d31626cabdd4e5dd6587fb592d67d0d5fd5a85974a9096ef0a99e717



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March 05, 2014, 03:23:31 PM
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Til today i.e. T+4, blockchain.info is still reflecting this 4.7 btc as unconfirmed.  (https://blockchain.info/address/12vjsMhC7MFyWddenGb7WCc6cEJjdagLg1)

Bitstamp who performed the transfer is 'taichi-ing' to say Bitcoin transactions confirmation is dependent on the "Bitcoin Network" and since they have send the BTC bitcoin network is now in control of them and that we should contact them and ask them for assistance.

wonder if i should just transfer everything from this address into another address to see how goes. however my best guess is blockchain.info will reflect this new transaction as unconfirmed as well .....


Just ignore it.  blockchain.info seems to be broken, that has no relevance for your transaction.  Blockchain.info is just one of many tools that allows you to examine the state of the "real" bitcoin block chain, and this particular tools seems to have a bug.
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March 05, 2014, 10:00:13 PM
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Just ignore it.  blockchain.info seems to be broken, that has no relevance for your transaction.  Blockchain.info is just one of many tools that allows you to examine the state of the "real" bitcoin block chain, and this particular tools seems to have a bug.


yes, think enough time spent on this issue, and blockchain.info helpdesk has not responded with any inputs. besides, looks like other addresses subsequent spends have received confirmations as well. so will just move on. thanks for your post picobit
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March 07, 2014, 11:13:19 PM
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ok,  blockchain.info has fixed the issue it seems and the transaction reflects confirmation. Finally! after a week
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