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September 22, 2018, 04:41:33 AM
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Hello, did airdrop happen already, I don't know how to see it in my wallet?
I checked my z_address today, I don't received my PIRATE coins.
So I think airdrop didn't happened.
Did anyone get it?


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September 22, 2018, 06:13:55 AM
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Hello, did airdrop happen already, I don't know how to see it in my wallet?
I checked my z_address today, I don't received my PIRATE coins.
So I think airdrop didn't happened.
Did anyone get it?

I didn't
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September 23, 2018, 05:21:57 AM
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Great development by jl777c done
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September 23, 2018, 02:21:13 PM
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Testing is being done on a notarized pirate chain
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September 23, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
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I want to know, just for interest and understanding.
Flexatron, are you the one of PIRATE team ? dev, support ?


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September 23, 2018, 02:53:55 PM
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I want to know, just for interest and understanding.
Flexatron, are you the one of PIRATE team ? dev, support ?

No, just a fan/miner
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September 23, 2018, 05:25:41 PM
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Hello, did airdrop happen already, I don't know how to see it in my wallet?
I checked my z_address today, I don't received my PIRATE coins.
So I think airdrop didn't happened.
Did anyone get it?

I didn't

Same.
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September 23, 2018, 07:19:42 PM
Last edit: September 23, 2018, 07:42:03 PM by grewalsatinder
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Latest News/Update

ALL PIRATE users and miners MUST update your Komodo to latest code as soon as possible (before PIRATE block 77777)



Notarization of private chain worked! http://prt.explorer.dexstats.info/tx/a88b8d34d669549879a095cbf3a83ce5af1d9226c123c18c54178b20f793c4e0
PIRATE can now dPoW :tada:



another ntrz http://prt.explorer.dexstats.info/tx/d6d60117dba4878c87d857cbc8a83d035e87076de93e48d4c674b32f6001cbaf

A test assetchain was created to test if private only assetchain does delayed Proof of Work notarisation as per the new code changes done by jl777, and the tests are successful.

PIRATE notarisation pushed to be added in KMD Notary Nodes.

Hope to have PIRATE blockchain secured with BTC hashrate via KMD soon.

That means PIRATE would be the only single blockchain in industry which will be absolutely private and still BTC equivalent secure to 51% attacks.

Also halving rewards time is updated by 5x.
That means the total supply will be different now, as well as the time of halving will be in months.

This is how it will look like now:


Total supply will be aprox: 199,109,119.99420500

Halving aprox every :
270.0590278 days
8.872575862 months

Total supply will reach in aprox 25.89607116 yrs
By Year 2043+

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September 23, 2018, 08:03:21 PM
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Congratz me pirates
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September 23, 2018, 08:35:01 PM
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So 5x the supply, 5x the reward schedule, adjusted halving, and taddrs exist for notaries, correct? No longer zaddr only?
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September 23, 2018, 10:09:10 PM
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So 5x the supply, 5x the reward schedule, adjusted halving, and taddrs exist for notaries, correct? No longer zaddr only?


afaik the t transactions are only for notary nodes, so dPoW can be added to give PIRATE bitcoin level hash rate security, all other tx will be z only. 5x supply will mean approx PIRATE coin count is the same as kmd , 200M
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September 23, 2018, 10:39:55 PM
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So 5x the supply, 5x the reward schedule, adjusted halving, and taddrs exist for notaries, correct? No longer zaddr only?


afaik the t transactions are only for notary nodes, so dPoW can be added to give PIRATE bitcoin level hash rate security, all other tx will be z only. 5x supply will mean approx PIRATE coin count is the same as kmd , 200M


Sure, it's what I just said however it makes it no longer a zksnark-only blockchain. Don't get me wrong, I get the trade off in doing so but it makes the thread title factually inaccurate if 64 addresses have the ability to conduct taddy txs, no?
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September 23, 2018, 11:38:26 PM
Last edit: September 24, 2018, 12:23:12 AM by TakeItEasy
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ALL PIRATE users and miners MUST update your Komodo to latest code as soon as possible (before PIRATE block 77777)
In other words, just to download the latest Agama version 0.42d and it will be enough for correct work ?


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September 24, 2018, 03:44:18 AM
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So 5x the supply, 5x the reward schedule, adjusted halving, and taddrs exist for notaries, correct? No longer zaddr only?


afaik the t transactions are only for notary nodes, so dPoW can be added to give PIRATE bitcoin level hash rate security, all other tx will be z only. 5x supply will mean approx PIRATE coin count is the same as kmd , 200M


Sure, it's what I just said however it makes it no longer a zksnark-only blockchain. Don't get me wrong, I get the trade off in doing so but it makes the thread title factually inaccurate if 64 addresses have the ability to conduct taddy txs, no?

Notary nodes already do notary tx for kmd and other asset chains, so if you consider these PIRATE notary tx as regular transactions then thread title might now need to be changed, but imo a notary tx is quite different to a regular t tx, so just because 64 kmd notaries now do PIRATE notary doesn't really invalidate the basic truth that the only way to move coins is by z only tx. Everyone is entitled to their view, but I see notary tx as different to regular t tx.
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September 24, 2018, 04:15:07 AM
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Trade off between bitcoin level security and a couple delegated guys that have the ability to send transparent tx.  Which isn't any flaw in the system as they will be the only transparent tx
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September 24, 2018, 04:19:36 AM
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Trade off between bitcoin level security and a couple delegated guys that have the ability to send transparent tx.  Which isn't any flaw in the system as they will be the only transparent tx

Can you describe tech side of a typical notary tx, what is the amount, is it always a standard sized piece of dust, or could a notary send millions of PIRATE using t tx now with this change? Maybe some tech explanation on what exactly a notary tx is will make it easier for people to understand the change that will allow dPoW.
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September 24, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
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Trade off between bitcoin level security and a couple delegated guys that have the ability to send transparent tx.  Which isn't any flaw in the system as they will be the only transparent tx

Can you describe tech side of a typical notary tx, what is the amount, is it always a standard sized piece of dust, or could a notary send millions of PIRATE using t tx now with this change? Maybe some tech explanation on what exactly a notary tx is will make it easier for people to understand the change that will allow dPoW.
technically the new rule is that anybody can send transparent outputs to notary address.
if anybody has millions of PIRATE, they could send it to any notary, but this is not a likely scenario and regardless of what privacy is lost by the notary transparent tx, I dont see how it is affecting the privacy of the purely z transactions

if you want to maintain the PIRATE purity, just never send any transparent tx to notary address.

the standard notarization will have 13 0.0001 inputs and a single 0.00988 output

PIRATE being able to be dPoW protected elevates it from being a test chain, to one that can hold real value.
there is no negative aspect from the notary being able to receive transparent funds. Since all mined rewards are also transparent, there is always some new transparent outputs, it is just only allowed to go to z addresses.

So BTC level security and ultimate privacy
seems a pretty good combination

half the coins to be mined over the first halving of about 10 months
plenty of time for everybody to participate
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September 24, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
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A typical PIRATE tx:

http://pirate.explorer.dexstats.info/tx/69e0b85f05d83cea285c610e1a8a8346304ce7069b718dfd8e676c71ead6b569

Public input
JoinSplit
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [1]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [2]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [3]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [4]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [5]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [6]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [7]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [8]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [9]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [10]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [11]
0 PIRATE
Public output
0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [12]
0 PIRATE
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0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [13]
0 PIRATE
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0 PIRATE
Public input
JoinSplit [14]
0.0001 PIRATE
Public output

The last one is a transparent output, but it is used up by txfee

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September 24, 2018, 08:15:19 PM
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I believe PIRATE now has more COINS as z-funds than any other coin, with 7 million in z-addresses

each t->z and z->z transaction increases the overall anon set


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September 24, 2018, 10:52:24 PM
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Trade off between bitcoin level security and a couple delegated guys that have the ability to send transparent tx.  Which isn't any flaw in the system as they will be the only transparent tx

Can you describe tech side of a typical notary tx, what is the amount, is it always a standard sized piece of dust, or could a notary send millions of PIRATE using t tx now with this change? Maybe some tech explanation on what exactly a notary tx is will make it easier for people to understand the change that will allow dPoW.
technically the new rule is that anybody can send transparent outputs to notary address.
if anybody has millions of PIRATE, they could send it to any notary, but this is not a likely scenario and regardless of what privacy is lost by the notary transparent tx, I dont see how it is affecting the privacy of the purely z transactions

if you want to maintain the PIRATE purity, just never send any transparent tx to notary address.

the standard notarization will have 13 0.0001 inputs and a single 0.00988 output

PIRATE being able to be dPoW protected elevates it from being a test chain, to one that can hold real value.
there is no negative aspect from the notary being able to receive transparent funds. Since all mined rewards are also transparent, there is always some new transparent outputs, it is just only allowed to go to z addresses.

So BTC level security and ultimate privacy
seems a pretty good combination

half the coins to be mined over the first halving of about 10 months
plenty of time for everybody to participate


Thanks jl777, that explanation makes sense, so 64 notary node addresses can receive t tx, and for that PIRATE gets Bitcoin level security!

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