Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.

[MPOE-PR]

Oh, and there was me thinking that Bitcoin is meant to be owned by, well, everybody who uses it.

Apparently seniority based on your posting count at this forum is the rule. My bad.

BTW, telling people to just STFU when they raise a valid a point is real fucking mature. Well done OP, a masterful thread, superbly crafted with your reasoned assertions and rebuttals.

Problem is you did not raise any valid points, and from the manner in which you raised those invalid pseudopoints it became apparent there's no practical, cheap, or easy way to correct you. So...what's one to do.

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[Dalmar]

+1 for OP

Bitcoin Foundation is full of scum.

I predicted Karpeles being a criminal even before he shut down bitcoin withdrawals on Gox:

Mark Karpeles needs to be kicked off the board, that dirty criminal is no good for the foundation. I expect him to be arrested next.

[MPOE-PR]

Welcome to the forum. MPOE is our most accomplished scumbag, a rumored child pornographer and a confirmed idiot. His business model is exceedingly simple: talk shit about everyone else to avoid scrutiny. Because he has no dignity or good breeding, he basically sells stock in himself, a sadistic, sexually confused Romanian Mafia reject. Anything he says can be disregarded, you won't miss anything valuable.

Whose scammer-I-exposed sock are you?

[(A)social]

OP, how about you come to us with a solution instead of a problem?

Fiat finance is populated by assholes in jobs they're not qualified to do effectively, being paid vast amounts by other assholes who are board-members of companies that survive by being told what to do by highly-paid management consultants.

As for crypto-currency, we are legion, but we are fringe and we are fucked without people willing to strap on a tie and speak corporate bullshit to persuade people who are afraid of losing their privileged positions by making decisions from left-field, that they should adopt Bitcoin as a means of payment or trade.

You don't have to like anyone from TBF, but you do have to offer up some sort of alternative solution to how we get boots on the ground in places that aren't simply coffee-shops and groovy online retailers with a liberal bent, if you want anybody to get behind your protestations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[HCLivess]

Thanks for letting me know. I actually was considering a donation earlier.

[Taras]

hell, i'm still in the denial phase 'what do you mean you sell bitcoins on an exchange???!!!'

decentralise. do it now.

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[Lauda]

OP, how about you come to us with a solution instead of a problem?

How about you shut the fuck up and get lost? Twelve post "we" indeed, get a load of that.

Take your pills and calm down you sociopath.  You are the biggest scammer around.

You're backing this up on what?

[IIOII]

+1 for OP

Couldn't agree more. TBF has already damaged bitcoins reputation.

It's interesting to see the shift in public opinion. I've strongly criticized TBF since inception but at that time was mostly met with ignorance and arrogance.

I wish to send a big kudos to all straight characters that used their brain and exposed the true nature of TBF from the very beginning.

Disband this mob of usurpers! Long live bitcoin!

[Bit_Happy]

I am looking for like-minded individuals to help form a new foundation, one that has emphasis on growing adoption in local communities while maintaining a broad link to macro policies.

If you think you would like to be a part of such an organiation, read this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498644.msg5487692#msg5487692


Edit: I have reserved the domains localbitcoinfoundation.org and .com

Bump for the new group, good work.

[escrow.ms]

OP, how about you come to us with a solution instead of a problem?

How about you shut the fuck up and get lost? Twelve post "we" indeed, get a load of that.

Take your pills and calm down you sociopath.  You are the biggest scammer around.

You're backing this up on what?

Probably this..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3642934#msg3642934

[Adrian-x]

+1 for the OP

[MPOE-PR]

hell, i'm still in the denial phase 'what do you mean you sell bitcoins on an exchange???!!!'

decentralise. do it now.

+1+1+1+1+1

Actually the majority of Bitcoin trade has happened OTC since forever. In 2011, in 2012, in 2013. That a majority of Bitcoin's periphery (ie, people interested ideally but not invested significantly) don't know about this is neither surprising nor terribly relevant.

[Peter Lambert]

hell, i'm still in the denial phase 'what do you mean you sell bitcoins on an exchange???!!!'

decentralise. do it now.

+1+1+1+1+1

Actually the majority of Bitcoin trade has happened OTC since forever. In 2011, in 2012, in 2013. That a majority of Bitcoin's periphery (ie, people interested ideally but not invested significantly) don't know about this is neither surprising nor terribly relevant.

Out of curiosity, how do you reliably measure the amount of bitcoin exchange going on OTC?

[raskul]

hell, i'm still in the denial phase 'what do you mean you sell bitcoins on an exchange???!!!'

decentralise. do it now.

+1+1+1+1+1

Actually the majority of Bitcoin trade has happened OTC since forever. In 2011, in 2012, in 2013. That a majority of Bitcoin's periphery (ie, people interested ideally but not invested significantly) don't know about this is neither surprising nor terribly relevant.

Out of curiosity, how do you reliably measure the amount of bitcoin exchange going on OTC?

you add it up on your fingers and toes and collate 'the majority', i presume, on account of it being 'obvious' or some other similar mathematical reasoning.  

[Peter Lambert]

hell, i'm still in the denial phase 'what do you mean you sell bitcoins on an exchange???!!!'

decentralise. do it now.

+1+1+1+1+1

Actually the majority of Bitcoin trade has happened OTC since forever. In 2011, in 2012, in 2013. That a majority of Bitcoin's periphery (ie, people interested ideally but not invested significantly) don't know about this is neither surprising nor terribly relevant.

Out of curiosity, how do you reliably measure the amount of bitcoin exchange going on OTC?

you add it up on your fingers and toes and collate 'the majority', i presume, on account of it being 'obvious' or some other similar mathematical reasoning.  

Sorry if it does not seem so obvious to everybody ... what I am asking is if there is a published amount of bitcoins traded OTC, and where is that data published?

[MPOE-PR]

Out of curiosity, how do you reliably measure the amount of bitcoin exchange going on OTC?

Obviously you don't reliably measure it, you're stuck guessing. Otherwise you'd have exact %s.

Depending on how well connected you are that guess is going to be more or less accurate (which is why the guesses of the unconnected are so way off the mark).

[Kouye]

Why would this scam accusation be still bouncing up and down in the wrong sub?

[Bit_Happy]

Why would this scam accusation be still bouncing up and down in the wrong sub?

Maybe since it is so important, or they just haven't noticed?

[Kouye]

Maybe since it is so important, or they just haven't noticed?

Or...

[Peter Lambert]

Out of curiosity, how do you reliably measure the amount of bitcoin exchange going on OTC?

Obviously you don't reliably measure it, you're stuck guessing. Otherwise you'd have exact %s.

Depending on how well connected you are that guess is going to be more or less accurate (which is why the guesses of the unconnected are so way off the mark).

OK, that is what I thought.

I wonder how much of the volume reported at exchanges is real, and how much is just them trading with themselves to make themselves look more respectable? With all the shit that went down from MtGox, can we really trust the numbers they self-reported?