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September 03, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
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<…> And there I was, thinking I overtook nullius on Merit (even though it took me more than twice as long). It turns out he found a way to be on top again without even logging in! <…>
@nullius gained 12 sMerits during August, so even now the user account is still being merited. @satoshi gained 80 sMerits during the same period of time, so there’s probably another (deserved) record: max. merits received during August without logging in…

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<…> Could this be due to merit trading? Say someone buys 10 Merit to become Member, and receives them on a few different days to avoid detection? To test this hypothesis: can you add a line to the table (number 4.) for Members who received exactly 10, 11 or 12 Merit? <…>
The thing is that streaks only consider consecutive days, and I’m only displaying the Max. Streak (which is a partial view of all the user’s received sMerits). The more elaborate cases would do it over different days I guess, and non-consecutive while being at it. I do suspect the Members rank has a fair share of Merit abuse/purchase though, since the number of merits is the lowest requirement of all mid-high ranks.

The following list is derived from the Table number 4’s underlying data:
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ndays nmerit nUsers
1 1 1569
1 2 442
1 3 154
1 4 108
1 5 231
1 6 49
1 7 37
1 8 36
1 9 34
1 10 559
1 11 18
1 12 19
1 13 5
1 14 8
1 15 8
1 16 1
1 17 1
1 18 4
1 19 2
1 20 18
1 21 2
1 22 4
1 23 1
1 24 2
1 25 5
1 27 2
1 28 1
1 29 1
1 30 7
1 31 1
1 32 2
1 35 1
1 36 1
1 40 4
1 42 1
1 44 1
1 45 1
1 48 1
1 50 16
1 56 1
1 76 1
1 84 1
1 103 1
2 2 188
2 3 154
2 4 105
2 5 64
2 6 83
2 7 62
2 8 44
2 9 30
2 10 125
2 11 21
2 12 13
2 13 6
2 14 2
2 15 5
2 16 2
2 17 5
2 18 2
2 19 1
2 20 3
2 21 2
2 22 2
2 23 1
2 24 1
2 26 1
2 29 2
2 30 2
2 33 1
2 39 1
2 40 3
2 50 1
2 51 1
2 54 1
2 60 2
2 76 1
3 3 31
3 4 44
3 5 27
3 6 40
3 7 23
3 8 27
3 9 14
3 10 47
3 11 7
3 12 6
3 13 7
3 14 1
3 15 3
3 16 2
3 17 1
3 19 2
3 20 3
3 21 1
3 22 1
3 24 1
3 28 1
3 36 1
3 40 1
3 46 1
3 61 1
3 70 1
4 4 2
4 5 2
4 6 8
4 7 8
4 8 10
4 9 7
4 10 18
4 11 7
4 12 4
4 13 5
4 14 1
4 15 7
4 17 2
4 18 2
4 19 2
4 20 1
4 22 1
4 23 1
4 26 1
4 28 1
4 35 1
4 36 1
5 5 1
5 6 1
5 7 3
5 8 2
5 9 4
5 10 1
5 11 6
5 12 2
5 13 2
5 15 1
5 16 1
5 19 2
5 21 1
5 22 1
5 28 1
5 50 1
6 8 1
6 9 2
6 13 1
6 15 1
6 27 1
6 32 1
7 10 1
7 12 1
7 19 1
7 20 1
8 26 1
8 28 1
8 43 1
9 29 1
12 33 1
I prefer adding the list than modifying table number 4 (it is less cumbersome as a list and we can see a bit more).

What does stand out is the following:
-   Most 1 day streaks involve 1 or 2 merits, decreasing progressively the number of people that get a larger sum of merits (logical).
-   Nevertheless, for the 1 day streak, the peak at 10 merits (559 people) is noticeable in comparison to the 9 merits (34 people), 11 merits (18 people) and 12 merits (19 people).
-   This happens again with those that received 10 sMerits on a 2 day streak (compared to 9 and 11 merits, although less noticeable.


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This list can easily be gamed: I see a possibility to put satoshi on top, all I need to do is send him 1 Merit for one of his posts for the next 32 days Cheesy
True,  but you wouldn’t really consider it unless you were aware of the existence of streak records … I guess the OP lists are the purest we can get, without any awareness of the streak records.
They’re there basically for fun, as a curiosity, but they do show how it does get increasingly more difficult for people to being merited various days in a row.

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September 05, 2018, 10:10:36 PM
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I agree that people tend to give them more to posts they agree with or 'like' but there's nothing we can do abut that other than try urge users to give posts for effort rather than you just agreeing with them or liking their point.


I believe that the meaning of merit is different from a simple like. Merit is deserved not by the post with which we agree, but by one in which the author consistently and reasonably expresses his point of view. You can agree with him, or you may not. But in any case, it isn`t just an attempt to write a constructive and useful commentary that deserve merit, but an intelligible and precise report of someone`s point of view. It is through argumentative statements between participants that a discussion can begin. Even if their views don`t coincide, but they explain them and prove, with respect to the contrary opinion and listening to the arguments of the oponents, the forum members will certainly discover something new. As we know, in a dispute, truth is born. And merit is worth giving to those who help to approach it, and not just those with whom we agree.

Precisely, stating a premise and forming an argument to support that is the basis of critical thinking.


I've given a few merits out to people who I didn't agree with, but they've certainly made the effort or put their point across articulately.
On rare occasions, I didn't give Merit to posts that are worth reading, out of fear of that being interpreted as me endorsing the user.

That can be a conundrum.

I'm about to merit the thread but when I'm in the "Merit a post" page I realised that I don't have any sMerits left, will reserve one of my future sMerit for this thread.

There needs to be a small amount distributed to the leveled accounts each month just to have a few available for outstanding posts. I have tried to spend Mine wisely And I am now under 10. I need to PM Maxwell and tell him to send some back! Lol, I felt his account was sorely unappreciated in the merit Dept. Smiley

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September 05, 2018, 10:17:47 PM
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Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
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September 06, 2018, 09:34:21 AM
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Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
You can take a look at the Merit Dashboard. Specifically, you can focus on:

a)   The tab labelled “Section Subsection”:

The graphic on the right gives you the merit awarded by subsection both numerically and as a percentage of the total awarded merit.
By default, the data shown covers all time since Merit System kick-off, so you may want to concentrate on a specific month since percentage distribution to subsections varies overtime.

For example, Ann Altcoin is the most merited subsection (26.437 sMerits, which is 12,23% of all awarded sMerits). Nevertheless, if you narrow it down to August 2018 (with the dropdown box on the right of the screen), Ann Altcoin goes down to 7,17% of total awarded sMerit for the month. That section is on the drop, as there is so much spam there that I figure ordinary merit is not too high and Merit Sources do not sway there often, being it difficult to find anything good amongst all the spam.
Meta on the other hand has risen it’s share over time (most merited during August with a 13,41% share, but a 9,51% overall).

Meta is certainly not the only merited section, but it is likely the most spam-free of all, with rather decent conversations going. If you don’t want to read spam all day long, Meta and Bitcoin technical sections are the cleanest from a spam point of view I’d say.

b)   The “Rankings” tab:

This may be interesting to see, as you can get an idea of which are the top merited threads here (third data set block columns). You can filter the data to a specific date range with the slider on the Date Filter at the top (or click the dates on the extremes of the slider and enter them there).
Again, by default we see the most merited since Merit System started, but applying the date filter changes the view quite a bit.   

Wall Observer thread is an ecosystem of its own, and is always at the top of the list (it is also behind on its own of the majority of sMerit in the Economics subsection).
‘Deleted’ are cases of merit assigned to posts that are later deleted for multiple reasons, and add-up to a fair share.

You can also filter by subsection at the top of this tab, to narrow down the data to a specific forum subsection.

Note: I created a post on the matter in May 2018 ( Forum Metrics - Section/subsection sMerit breakdown in detail), but as I said, the distribution of sMerit per subsection evolves over time, so the Dashboard allows us to have a view that we can follow dynamically with weekly updates).


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September 26, 2018, 01:29:22 PM
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Whether there are statistics in which forum board categories, users receive the most of merit points?
somehow it seems to me that it is mostly given in the meta section. It's very hard to find merited posts in other section. I exclude these from the local board.
I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.
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September 26, 2018, 01:35:23 PM
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<...>I have made a lot of post basically in the altcoins section while bounty hunting. I will definitely go try the meta section you just recommended hopefully I get some merits there.
That is not the best choice of words as a presentation card on Meta. I’d suggest you read through Meta for some days before pulling the trigger on the keyboard...
 

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dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.

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dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.
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September 26, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
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dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.

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September 26, 2018, 07:12:58 PM
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dont bother, you are a bounty hunter who hasn't read the rules.
Guess that's why I'm still a newbie. Hopefully growing daily.

you post a lot, but don't read much - read twice as much as you write fella.

Unfortunately, this is a big problem for many Newbie and Jr.M. they come to the forum only for one purpose, to make money. And they don't understand why it need SMerit. Many people do not understand the obvious ethical norms. Not only on this forum, on any other forum the same rules, there is ethics and respect for others. There is such a thing as authority. Here, for example, DdmrDdmr has crazy authority among the members of this forum (in my eyes exactly). He really does a great job of improving the merit system. He is one of the few who pursues the goal of not money and not earning on ICO in bounty companies. It aims to help other participants. That is precisely the merit. Merit is the authority on the forum. And beginners don't understand it, unfortunately.
P.s.Sorry I didn't name another participant, I just gave an example, in the context of the conversation.
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