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March 03, 2014, 09:10:35 PM Last edit: March 03, 2014, 09:35:32 PM by Sukrim |
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IMO ripple got the best prospects to replace old bitcoin, IF they make it 100% open source.
There are no closed source and no non-free software parts about Ripple since September 2013. I don't think it would be in any position to replace Bitcoin though, it is far more of a threat to BitPay than to Bitcoin.
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March 03, 2014, 09:16:05 PM |
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You guys are stupid for wasting your time on trolls. Seriously
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March 03, 2014, 09:16:24 PM |
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I just say what poor fellows can do: either give up on crypto currencies completely, or jump on a new bitcoin-clone. IMO ripple got the best prospects to replace old bitcoin, IF they make it 100% open source.
So switch to Ripple? With essentially everything premined? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? By the way, if you don't like bitcoin, why the "BitCoin" address begging? Anything closed source would be a mistake.
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March 03, 2014, 09:26:21 PM |
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You guys are stupid for wasting your time on trolls. Seriously
It all pays the same. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 03, 2014, 09:26:58 PM |
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NXT I agree is great but why are people negative in Bitcoin cause of MtGox, stop being soft minded media suckers.
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March 03, 2014, 10:22:28 PM |
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At which rate should we "poor rats" abandon the old bitcoin ship?
When the hackers and oligarchs holds: 60% 70% 80% 90% 99% of all bitcoins mined.
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March 03, 2014, 10:58:42 PM |
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Feel free to start a new cryptocurrency, plenty of folks have.
It won't affect bitcoin one bit.
Edit: You "poor rats" - abandoning cryptocurrency won't solve your problems because cryptocurrency didn't create your problems (poverty, inequality).
Capitalism did that, and it is capitalism that you need to abandon. Much harder, I know.
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March 03, 2014, 11:15:06 PM |
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Feel free to start a new cryptocurrency, plenty of folks have.
It won't affect bitcoin one bit.
Edit: You "poor rats" - abandoning cryptocurrency won't solve your problems because cryptocurrency didn't create your problems (poverty, inequality).
Capitalism did that, and it is capitalism that you need to abandon. Much harder, I know.
Premining and Stealing (hacking) is not part of capitalism.
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March 03, 2014, 11:17:58 PM |
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New Bitcoins are started every day.Can we create a new, successful, Bitcoin... only if the majority agree with your beliefs. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) lmao! thanks for the laugh. my favorite comment of the day
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March 03, 2014, 11:21:27 PM |
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You don't like Bitcoin, I say switch to Nxt, after all it's 800 times more cost efficient and 3000 more energy efficient due to proof of stake, not to mention having many other services built on top of it, which will allow the coin to basically be sent around with practically zero transaction fees, and the forgers will be paid via people using the Nxt messaging service, decentralized computing, and other services. Not to mention anyone can forge, there is no incentive to buy heavy duty equipment that can be used to mine Bitcoin and is good for absolutely nothing other than mining Bitcoin. http://www.nxtcrypto.org/+1. Yes NXT is great +2 now if only nxt is hack-free id jump ship now. all these news about stealing BTC left and right is making me worried, i could be nxt you neva know
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March 04, 2014, 01:09:34 AM |
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*Insert random, pointless text about an altcoin here*
+1. Yes NXT is great +2 Promoting NXT in Bitcoin discussion, smart.
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March 04, 2014, 01:50:31 AM |
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I remember listening to the hearings on Bitcoin in the US Congress. The "experts" that were speaking in front of the House were suggesting that a coin derived off of some of the innovative features of Bitcoin could be used to replace the current system. That probably means that they are talking about a centralized coin, which most of the people here who currently support Bitcoin would not want to be a part of. There are plenty of new "Bitcoins" started everyday and they are pretty much mostly useless and very cloneish. If you can come up with unique features that actually add something not thought of before and innovative, then starting a new Bitcoin might be a good idea.
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March 04, 2014, 02:32:57 AM |
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I remember listening to the hearings on Bitcoin in the US Congress. The "experts" that were speaking in front of the House were suggesting that a coin derived off of some of the innovative features of Bitcoin could be used to replace the current system. That probably means that they are talking about a centralized coin, which most of the people here who currently support Bitcoin would not want to be a part of. There are plenty of new "Bitcoins" started everyday and they are pretty much mostly useless and very cloneish. If you can come up with unique features that actually add something not thought of before and innovative, then starting a new Bitcoin might be a good idea.
I know, there exists 100+ altcoins. The Old Bitcoin has been a wild west and many have been burned since it's inception, both noobs and early adaptors. Therefore the burned users have incentive to jump on a new bitcoin-clone from scratch without premined coins, and be part of it from day 1 and with all experience they now have gained by MtGox. If many users and miners do switch over to New Bitcoin (by free will), the Old Bitcoin will fade away. The mythical Satoshi figure holding 10% of all bitcoins should be enough as argument why we should let Old Bitcoin die. Abandoning Old Bitcoin would of course be much easier to justify if the dollar value of Old Bitcoin was in millions instead of billions.
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March 04, 2014, 02:40:36 AM |
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The reason for starting a new bitcoin is simple: We can assume that 50% of all bitcoins mined are either held by wrong persons, or are lost. A lot of people are burned by the MtGox theft, therefore they have nothing to lose on switching to a new coin.
If we start to use a new coin the miners can use their hardware to switch over as well, and effectively abandoning Old Bitcoin. The value of Old Bitcoin will drop to zero which will punish preminers, thieves and FBI.
Bitcoin holders that will be punished most: FBI: 10% Satoshi: 10% Thieves (from MtGox and other sites): 20% Lost coins: 10% Total = 50%
been done. see bytecoin.
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March 04, 2014, 07:11:27 AM |
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bitcoin is bitcoin.. thats what its for.. no take backs.. no indian givers.. you wanna sell drugs.. guns.. or even uproot fiat.. i dont care... thats why bitcoin was created. if you're a damn fool and dont follow the protocol then you deserve to be robbed.. ie.. hold coins in our own wallets and dont let greed take over by trusting your coins to someone else (it says so right when you download bitcoin client !!! DONT TRUST OTHERS WITH YOUR COIN)
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March 04, 2014, 07:39:54 AM |
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Promoting NXT in Bitcoin discussion, smart.
The point wasn't to spam and promote an altcoin but to tell that there are many innovative altcoins that have the potential to replace Bitcoin. Even if the name isn't Bitcoin 2.0 it goal is to replace Bitcoin by providing a "better" technology and fixing some flaws of Bitcoin. No cryptocurrency is perfect but you are not forced to use one or an other. It is the choice of everyone.
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March 04, 2014, 09:59:16 AM |
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I can understand why some people think thieves (eg. hackers, FBI, fraudsters, etc) deserve to be punished but why punish Satoshi? Without him, neither Bitcoin nor altcoins would exist.
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March 04, 2014, 10:18:09 AM |
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I can understand why some people think thieves (eg. hackers, FBI, fraudsters, etc) deserve to be punished but why punish Satoshi? Without him, neither Bitcoin nor altcoins would exist.
I agree. Whoever Satoshi is, he gave us new coin world. Without him we might not have cryptocurrencies until now.
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You want to destroy all BTC forever, why? New Bitcoins are started every day. Can we create a new, successful, Bitcoin... only if the majority agree with your beliefs. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) My argument for a new bitcoin is simple: Most people has lost bitcoin due theft or data loss, or missed the boat. So most coins in circulation are held by thieves, oligarchs and .gov. Therefore we don't have anything to lose by voting with our feet and go over to a new coin.
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March 04, 2014, 10:42:05 AM |
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I'm totally on board with a New Bitcoin. Old Bitcoin is too corrupted.
In case you're also tired of the current Bitcoin we have, then send me your Bitcoin to this address: 1MYpNKj25HRBFpv22YpuZsuz2zZHKBLUur
I'll collect all the Bitcoin and change the password to my wallet to a random set of numbers while being blindfolded, thereby losing all current Bitcoin forever.
Send to here: 1MYpNKj25HRBFpv22YpuZsuz2zZHKBLUur
No! I can rescue what he will throw away. The reason for starting a new bitcoin is simple...
Simply wrong, and enough people know that.
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