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March 04, 2014, 07:20:44 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.

Make them build their own forums.  A HUGE disservice is being done by diverting people away from Bitcoin.

However my preference is to see the ALTS forum GONE.  This forum is BTCTALK.  If people want to market their scamcoin let them build a forum and attract people.  The sub is now a place of abuse and a hotbed of fraud, there is a huge danger new people will get sucked into a scam and turn their back on BTC, when we could have educated them about BTC instead.

Lets END the freeloading here for the scams and fraud.  I could maybe accept a Litecoin subforum just because they have devs that work on the BTC client, and help out.  However that should be up to the community, there is no reason we owe a space to these people trying to rip everyone off.  A year or two ago interesting technical discussions could be found there - now it is truly a SCAR on this website.

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- from journeys into the dark depths of the alt coin forum....
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March 04, 2014, 07:27:58 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.

Make them build their own forums.  A HUGE disservice is being done by diverting people away from Bitcoin.

However my preference is to see the ALTS forum GONE.  This forum is BTCTALK.  If people want to market their scamcoin let them build a forum and attract people.  The sub is now a place of abuse and a hotbed of fraud, there is a huge danger new people will get sucked into a scam and turn their back on BTC, when we could have educated them about BTC instead.

Lets END the freeloading here for the scams and fraud.  I could maybe accept a Litecoin subforum just because they have devs that work on the BTC client, and help out.  However that should be up to the community, there is no reason we owe a space to these people trying to rip everyone off.  A year or two ago interesting technical discussions could be found there - now it is truly a SCAR on this website.


I hate to say it, as mining & trading altcoins is the only way I can really make anything in the crypto world, however, I pretty much agree with this.

Nothing but IPO scams and idiots who are too willing to throw their money at them regardless of how strongly and loudly you try to warn them

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March 04, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.

Make them build their own forums.  A HUGE disservice is being done by diverting people away from Bitcoin.

However my preference is to see the ALTS forum GONE.  This forum is BTCTALK.  If people want to market their scamcoin let them build a forum and attract people.  The sub is now a place of abuse and a hotbed of fraud, there is a huge danger new people will get sucked into a scam and turn their back on BTC, when we could have educated them about BTC instead.

Lets END the freeloading here for the scams and fraud.  I could maybe accept a Litecoin subforum just because they have devs that work on the BTC client, and help out.  However that should be up to the community, there is no reason we owe a space to these people trying to rip everyone off.  A year or two ago interesting technical discussions could be found there - now it is truly a SCAR on this website.


I hate to say it, as mining & trading altcoins is the only way I can really make anything in the crypto world, however, I pretty much agree with this.

Nothing but IPO scams and idiots who are too willing to throw their money at them regardless of how strongly and loudly you try to warn them

You could argue this about the Bitcoin marketplace and gambling subforums. Idiots are always easily parted with their cash. Getting rid of the altcoin section wont really matter or help just push it on to somewhere else.

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March 04, 2014, 11:14:48 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.

Make them build their own forums.  A HUGE disservice is being done by diverting people away from Bitcoin.

However my preference is to see the ALTS forum GONE.  This forum is BTCTALK.  If people want to market their scamcoin let them build a forum and attract people.  The sub is now a place of abuse and a hotbed of fraud, there is a huge danger new people will get sucked into a scam and turn their back on BTC, when we could have educated them about BTC instead.

Lets END the freeloading here for the scams and fraud.  I could maybe accept a Litecoin subforum just because they have devs that work on the BTC client, and help out.  However that should be up to the community, there is no reason we owe a space to these people trying to rip everyone off.  A year or two ago interesting technical discussions could be found there - now it is truly a SCAR on this website.


I hate to say it, as mining & trading altcoins is the only way I can really make anything in the crypto world, however, I pretty much agree with this.

Nothing but IPO scams and idiots who are too willing to throw their money at them regardless of how strongly and loudly you try to warn them

This is absolutely correct.  Many more people fall for these liars than would ever gamble their BTC.

Is the forum being paid off by the fraudsters?  There is no other reason not to close it immediately.  The only thing that MIGHT be justified is a Litecoin subforum.  They actually contribute to Bitcoin.

Everyone else is a leech ruining the name of cryptocurrency and we should not allow it here.  It TAINTS the whole community.

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- from journeys into the dark depths of the alt coin forum....
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March 05, 2014, 12:22:15 AM
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We keep it around as a trashbin of sorts. It's either we move threads about alt-coins there, or we delete posts about them altogether. That's why we don't have many sections there. That's also why we usually don't moderate anything there unless it is reported.

We don't want to censor alt-coins like so many other forums on the internet censored Bitcoin back in the day. Seriously, there was a time where if you even mentioned Bitcoin on another forum, it was an automatic delete and ban.

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March 05, 2014, 03:06:55 AM
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We keep it around as a trashbin of sorts. It's either we move threads about alt-coins there, or we delete posts about them altogether. That's why we don't have many sections there. That's also why we usually don't moderate anything there unless it is reported.

We don't want to censor alt-coins like so many other forums on the internet censored Bitcoin back in the day. Seriously, there was a time where if you even mentioned Bitcoin on another forum, it was an automatic delete and ban.

In that spirit then wouldn't it make sense to at least put a warning there for new members?

Like "Beware, new coins are often scams, tread carefully and be cautious about putting your money in a coin just being released, chances are you will eventually lose it all, be sure to think critically."

Quote from: FrictionlessCoin
"I think you are to hung up on this notion about 'pre-mining' being a No-No."
- from journeys into the dark depths of the alt coin forum....
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March 05, 2014, 03:18:33 AM
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Like "Beware, new coins are often scams, tread carefully and be cautious about putting your money in a coin just being released, chances are you will eventually lose it all, be sure to think critically."

There is a warning by Gavin that's stickied there.

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March 05, 2014, 03:19:22 AM
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We keep it around as a trashbin of sorts. It's either we move threads about alt-coins there, or we delete posts about them altogether. That's why we don't have many sections there. That's also why we usually don't moderate anything there unless it is reported.

We don't want to censor alt-coins like so many other forums on the internet censored Bitcoin back in the day. Seriously, there was a time where if you even mentioned Bitcoin on another forum, it was an automatic delete and ban.

In that spirit then wouldn't it make sense to at least put a warning there for new members?

Like "Beware, new coins are often scams, tread carefully and be cautious about putting your money in a coin just being released, chances are you will eventually lose it all, be sure to think critically."

Wouldn't matter. People would still throw funds at them hoping for a big payday.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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March 05, 2014, 04:32:09 AM
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Like "Beware, new coins are often scams, tread carefully and be cautious about putting your money in a coin just being released, chances are you will eventually lose it all, be sure to think critically."

There is a warning by Gavin that's stickied there.
Maybe we should do the warning Securities-board-style...? Not that I think that it will really help...

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March 05, 2014, 12:23:11 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.


That is simply not true. I am by no means a scammer and you have no reason stating so. (I know it is not what you intended to say, I am just pointing out the misuse of your words) Wink

Redirect users here; https://cryptocointalk.com/ we would love to have them over. CCT is moderated, it would be nice to see how scammers are handled there.

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March 05, 2014, 04:32:33 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.


That is simply not true. I am by no means a scammer and you have no reason stating so. (I know it is not what you intended to say, I am just pointing out the misuse of your words) Wink

Redirect users here; https://cryptocointalk.com/ we would love to have them over. CCT is moderated, it would be nice to see how scammers are handled there.



Just registered.  Looks good to me!

I don't think that one forum can hurt another.

There is no cyrptocurrency war going on and any given crypto will stand or fall quite on its own.

My $.02.

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March 05, 2014, 06:26:55 PM
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Its not that bad, just dont vist it if you dont like it!




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March 05, 2014, 10:16:31 PM
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delete/make it RO
and make another domain+forum if u want
no need for them now

Maybe some VIP/moderator can pick up 1ANN / week (month) which rly is somehow new ...
Or not - like BTC made his way - new crypto can make too ... if its worth something ...

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March 05, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.


That is simply not true. I am by no means a scammer and you have no reason stating so. (I know it is not what you intended to say, I am just pointing out the misuse of your words) Wink

Redirect users here; https://cryptocointalk.com/ we would love to have them over. CCT is moderated, it would be nice to see how scammers are handled there.


Who mentioned you?
The altcoin subforum doesn't provide anything useful any more. 99% of the posts are utter garbage, spam and scams (coins and whatnot).

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March 06, 2014, 10:46:18 AM
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There's already a (recent) thread asking for the same:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438043.0

And there have been plenty of others in one form or another.

This was my (mining focussed) take on it:
New people come here for the bitcoin, think they can make money from it usually through mining, then get told the only way to make money is through altcoin mining. Then they enter the hell that is the infinite planes of altcoin and create their own coin, then proselytise the virtues of altcoins over bitcoin, and the cycle repeats.

IMO we'd be better without it, but you'd need mods to just keep tossing things in the bin all day. It would only be a matter of time before the talk died down.

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March 06, 2014, 10:56:34 AM
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There's already a (recent) thread asking for the same:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438043.0

And there have been plenty of others in one form or another.

This was my (mining focussed) take on it:
New people come here for the bitcoin, think they can make money from it usually through mining, then get told the only way to make money is through altcoin mining. Then they enter the hell that is the infinite planes of altcoin and create their own coin, then proselytise the virtues of altcoins over bitcoin, and the cycle repeats.

IMO we'd be better without it, but you'd need mods to just keep tossing things in the bin all day. It would only be a matter of time before the talk died down.
Agreed. Create altcointalk.org and spread your scams (or not scams - w/e) there.

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March 06, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
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Its not that bad, just dont vist it if you dont like it!

There are always those who cannot exercise the personal responsibility to not visit a site or thread with which they disagree so therefore require esternal rules and regulations to control their actions.

Got a problem with a thread?

Let's ban the topic!

Works the same way in the real world.

Got a problem with (Insert Your Particular Complaint)?

Let's get a new law!

Some people just need to grow up!

My $.02.

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March 08, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
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Its not that bad, just dont vist it if you dont like it!
It damages the crypto world, because of the infinite cycle of crapcoins.

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March 08, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
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Its not that bad, just dont vist it if you dont like it!
It damages the crypto world, because of the infinite cycle of crapcoins.

Shitcoin are the last ones  Grin Grin Grin

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March 09, 2014, 06:47:50 PM
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The ALT subforum no longer serves any purpose except for fraudsters hucksters and scammers to rip people off.

Make them build their own forums.  A HUGE disservice is being done by diverting people away from Bitcoin.

However my preference is to see the ALTS forum GONE.  This forum is BTCTALK.  If people want to market their scamcoin let them build a forum and attract people.  The sub is now a place of abuse and a hotbed of fraud, there is a huge danger new people will get sucked into a scam and turn their back on BTC, when we could have educated them about BTC instead.

Lets END the freeloading here for the scams and fraud.  I could maybe accept a Litecoin subforum just because they have devs that work on the BTC client, and help out.  However that should be up to the community, there is no reason we owe a space to these people trying to rip everyone off.  A year or two ago interesting technical discussions could be found there - now it is truly a SCAR on this website.

I totally agree. It is in the best interest of all cryptocoins if altcoin threads finaly move elsewhere, to their own forums or some altcoin-only forums.
With everything cryptocoin happening right here on this forum it became a major target. The whole cryptocoin movement would be damaged badly
if this forum goes down for long or even forever. Just look at MtGox ... luckily many people moved to other exchanges before it started going wrong!

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