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March 05, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
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Just wanna know what is the legal stand of Canada on Bitcoins..? because this incidents appears like RBC treats bitcoins as drugs, is it a problem with a particular bank..!

It's still quite a grey area, it's legal as far as I know but since we have an oligopoly of 6 banks here, they do whatever they want and that's a real problem.

Now matter weather its Canada or India all those politicians/corporates will keep it in  that grey area for as long as possible, so that they can scam innocent people . we need some kinda change and one day i hope it will change. have faith in BTC

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March 05, 2014, 07:19:31 PM
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Appears this started happening with RBC in Ottawa about a year ago (http://www.businessinsider.com/canadian-banks-closing-bitcoin-businesses-2013-4; http://www.obj.ca/Local/2013-04-29/article-3229285/RBC-shuts-down-Ottawa-Bitcoin-account/1). Apparently the "Big 6" banks ( RBC, TD, BMO, CIBC, Scotiabank and National Bank) have all colluded to shutdown Bitcoin (http://globalnews.ca/news/996853/as-bitcoin-surges-canadian-banks-make-converting-to-cash-difficult/). They must feel pretty threatened.

This article by Stuart Hoegner on the state of Bitcoin in Canada lists a lot of good things happening there, other than the banks (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/michaelcayley/bitcoin-not-legal-tender-canada_b_4673661.html) Good luck!
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March 05, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
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Just wanna know what is the legal stand of Canada on Bitcoins..? because this incidents appears like RBC treats bitcoins as drugs, is it a problem with a particular bank..!

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March 05, 2014, 07:23:04 PM
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Just wanna know what is the legal stand of Canada on Bitcoins..? because this incidents appears like RBC treats bitcoins as drugs, is it a problem with a particular bank..!

It's still quite a grey area, it's legal as far as I know but since we have an oligopoly of 6 banks here, they do whatever they want and that's a real problem.


well now you have the opportunity to test the limits of bitcoin to the fullest

instead of looking for another bank, look for ways to work around the banks only using btc,  call it forced progress

or

you can spearhead a bitcoin foundation of canada and start talking to the banks, central banks, and any other national financial regulators to have btc respected if not codified


I hate the very notion of a bank looking analyzing my account outside of the numbers.  How did they make the bitcoin association?




Simply by the name of my company, I suppose...
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March 05, 2014, 07:25:30 PM
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Out of curiosity - were you making excessive deposits by any chance? Or was the bank just account pretty much inactive, and the description was just related to being a Bitcoin business? 

The name of the company is Cryptolator Cryptomonnaies Physique (in english it would be: Cryptolator Physical Cryptocurrencies) so that is probably the problem and why it has been flagged.

Anyway when I registered the account they asked a lot of question on what would be the purpose of the company and what I'll be selling, I didn't want to lie and have problem later.

The account was inactive for the moment..


Wow so they are actively seeking out Bitcoin companies and preventing them from operating...crazy. Not surprising but still disappointing.

Not sure if you have any DC Banks there but look into them. Cavirtex uses them so they are likely bitcoin friendly.

RBC is known to hate Bitcoin - the way they just shut down Cavirtex and refused to let the company hold a bank account with them was crazy. TD as well - you can tell by the fact that they removed VOGOGO as a bill payment option (it is used to import CAD into Cavirtex)

It is sad but this is the world we live in
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March 05, 2014, 07:30:00 PM
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It's funny how big institutions can act like scared idiots.
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March 05, 2014, 07:32:38 PM
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We should open the Bitcoin Bank?

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March 05, 2014, 07:34:02 PM
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We should open the Bitcoin Bank?

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March 05, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
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We should open the Bitcoin Bank?

there are two in the world that I know of.
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March 05, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
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This is another example of anti-fragility at work.  Resistance from banks pushes innovators to prefer transacting on the blockchain, further severing the link to fiat and expanding the bitcoin-to-bitcoin economy.  

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March 05, 2014, 07:36:15 PM
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We should open the Bitcoin Bank?

there are two in the world that I know of.
Provide links.
Where?

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March 05, 2014, 07:38:02 PM
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I will keep saying this until I am blue in the face. Fiat and Bitcoin will not mix, the banks will never allow it because it will make them obsolete. What part of that do people not understand? Bitcoin was designed to replace the fiat system and here we have people trying to integrate the two, LOL. It will not happen!!!! Make no mistake, this will be an all out war between the banking system and Bitcoin.
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March 05, 2014, 07:41:10 PM
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We should open the Bitcoin Bank?

there are two in the world that I know of.
Provide links.
Where?

do a search for 1st bitcoin bank in the world, you will see a listing then in the listing it will refer to an earlier bitcoin bank with a name like 'bitcom bank of islam' they do interest

I'll try to find them again



here is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=21732.0
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March 05, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
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I will keep saying this until I am blue in the face. Fiat and Bitcoin will not mix, the banks will never allow it because it will make them obsolete. What part of that do people not understand? Bitcoin was designed to replace the fiat system and here we have people trying to integrate the two, LOL. It will not happen!!!! Make no mistake, this will be an all out war between the banking system and Bitcoin.

I do understand, but what I'll be selling is to facilitate having secure storage for Bitcoin. I'm not selling or buying Bitcoin. I think that being able to buy it with fiat make it simpler for a lot of peoples.
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March 05, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
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do a search for 1st bitcoin bank in the world, you will see a listing then in the listing it will refer to an earlier bitcoin bank with a name like 'bitcom bank of islam' they do interest

I'll try to find them again



here is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=21732.0
We need one somewhere like in the US, Canada, UK.

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March 05, 2014, 07:47:55 PM
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THis makes me want to close my RBC accounts.... :S.. Seems like they might just do it to me.  This would be the third time RBC has screwed me.
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March 05, 2014, 07:51:04 PM
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THis makes me want to close my RBC accounts.... :S.. Seems like they might just do it to me.  This would be the third time RBC has screwed me.

Are you selling bitcoins? If you are guaranteed they will eventually. Happened to me - and only a matter of time until localbitcoin vendors can only accept cash in person.
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March 05, 2014, 07:52:38 PM
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I will keep saying this until I am blue in the face. Fiat and Bitcoin will not mix, the banks will never allow it because it will make them obsolete. What part of that do people not understand? Bitcoin was designed to replace the fiat system and here we have people trying to integrate the two, LOL. It will not happen!!!! Make no mistake, this will be an all out war between the banking system and Bitcoin.

Without banks , bitcoin wouldn't have reached 1000$.
90% of the trading is done with money sent via banking systems.

And don't fool yourself , even with fiat money gone , banks will still be there.


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March 05, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
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THis makes me want to close my RBC accounts.... :S.. Seems like they might just do it to me.  This would be the third time RBC has screwed me.
Then close it, better safe than sorry.

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March 05, 2014, 08:01:08 PM
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I just got a call from RBC (Royal Bank of Canada), they said that they closed my commercial bank account because my activities are related to Bitcoin.

I don't even sell or buy Bitcoins. I create physical encapsuler for physical cryptocurrencies (Not yet released).

I will close all my account at RBC and never deal with those scared crooks anymore.

I would suggest anyone having account with RBC and believing in Bitcoin to do the same.

I'm really angry right now !

Anyway, I needed to share that with you. Smiley

Would like to have your thought on that.

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well that was dumb of them ..

they shoulda kept u for their bail-ins they gonna do soon ..
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