[TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks!

[paxmao]

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The Pharmacist

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This user is now a merit source I believe.

[Piggy]

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The Pharmacist

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This user is now a merit source I believe.

I think he was stating not so long ago (a week or two) he was not, or at least he never applied to be one as far as i know. However nobody could complain if he was added to the recent 36 new merit sources silently.  

[Jet Cash]

He posted that he is now a source.

[Ondre]

Thank you for this post of yours. Since the demotion that happened earlier this week I was really contemplating if there are people giving merits in the first place before giving strong comments on the demoted newbies. This post gives peace to my heart that indeed there are people who are doing also their part in this forum. This encourages me. To be honest, I stopped for few days to also see where I am lacking and where I can improve. I can see hope as I also move forward to what is better for the purpose of fhis forum.

[MagicSmoker]

I just ranked up 2 3 more newbies in the altcoins/mining subforum bringing my total up to 7 8. It's fairly easy to find newbies making decent posts in the more technical subfora, vs., say, here in meta (or those cesspools of spam, the discussion subfora for either bitcoin or altcoins), and I haven't found nearly as much posting in spam megathreads or bounty reports by those newbies who show an interest in mining.

Conversely, most of the merit abuse seems to be occurring in the altcoins/announcements subforum; especially common is ANN thread starters meriting apparently random shitposts in their own threads. Consequently, I'm thinking of starting a thread to collect examples of such abuse to make it convenient for DT members to go paint the abusers red.

P.S. - please don't PM me to asking for a review of your posts, and definitely don't ask if you can buy a merit.

EDIT - I forgot to say I think that getting marked with a "spambies" rank if you make x number of posts without getting a single merit is an excellent idea!

[Jet Cash]

I think it's getting close to the time Bitcoin Talk allows a bifurcation. Let the underworld go down one fork, and the Bitcoin/Crypto discussions happen on the other.

[mazdafunsun]

interesting to see the top 4 merit givers are already red trusted and merited about 200 newbie, i haven't check yet the merited post, so i can be wrong, but i guess this is not going to end up well

Gave them a  quick look and it seems like a huge farm atleast for some of them.

I do not think that these posts could be considered as good even if we strecth it:





Allo the intervals between awards is suspucious.


The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.

The real question will the mods have time to investigate these kind of cases , will this behaviour reveal big farms or let them be,

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This user is now a merit source I believe.

I am indeed.  I'm also out of sMerits and I'm waiting with bated breath till the day I get topped up. 

I'm far down on this list, but I definitely support newbies IF they make good posts.  I've been hunting outside of Meta lately, looking for good ones by lower-ranked members (not just Newbies) and they are hard to find--and then there's the issue of having to check for plagiarism before giving someone merit.  I got burned once on this and almost got burned a couple of times, and it's annoying to say the least.

Getting new members here posting in the English section who can actually write well is so rare.  And it's rare when someone actually writes something that's interesting.  There are so many generic posts being written that I can't bring myself to merit them even if they make sense.  The newbies I actually sent merit to didn't write outstanding posts necessarily, but they were very good relative to the other ones in the threads they were posted in.

Note:  I don't think any of the newbies I merited were for posts in Meta in the last 3 days.  I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure.

[Jet Cash]

Welcome to the club.

I've almost given up hunting for posts that are worthy of merit. I decided that it was better to encourage good members to start good discussions, and use those as a base for meritable posts. I still believe that this is a good approach, but it seems to have fallen by the wayside a bit, especially as many of the potential awardees can't be bothered to join.

I'm also a bit pissed off that the guys awarding merits to the spambies are being lauded as supporters of newbies. Actually the reverse is true, and they make it harder for good new members to find a place here. I think it is time for the bifurcation of Bitcoin Talk, and the spambies can continue in the underworld, and allow the regrowth of the real Bitcoin Talk to begin.

[btc-facebook]

How to being categorized as member that support newbie ?
I can see dumbtool45 already received the red, it means the list still valid ?

[Jet Cash]

How to being categorized as member that support newbie ?

Do you mean a newbie or a spambie?

To help newbies you need to offer training and advice, and that is more work than just giving merits to spambies to get on a list.

[riyarana1123]

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

[Jet Cash]

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

Please don't call them newbies - they aren't new at all.

[suchmoon]

The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.


I'd also caution (and this is not specifically directed at you mazda) against getting too carried away with some of these abuse allegations. I've always maintained that merely sending and receiving merits is not a proof of wrongdoing. Of course if there is any other malfeasance involved (provable alts, quid pro quo, etc) then it's different. But some of these recent allegations seem to be based entirely on someone sending 1 merit to multiple users. Let them have it. If they're shitposters they'll get banned and will eventually run out of merits. Let's hit them where it hurts and report those spam posts.

[Azna Azhar]

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

Please don't call them newbies - they aren't new at all.

Yes, we are not new, at first I did not care about merit. After a change of rules, merit became the center of attention for our second session newbie. I'm not too sure about members who can give merit for free or just because of the quality of the posts.

[OgNasty]

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

Agreed. I too am guilty of batching merit pages.

[The Cryptovator]

This user helped 23 demoted newbie
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034597.msg45997393#msg45997393

[Veleor]

Suspicious sendings

Capradina to BEDULMZT     - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3250468.msg34810258#msg34810258 (archived)
Partisson to jalfanky          - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4995911.msg45464806#msg45464806 (archived)
cacucacok91 to Don Lord   - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4797667.msg45770401#msg45770401 (archived)

Bounty reports that received 1 merit from 17/09/2018:
From Full Member kalunomics: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4518298.msg45878046#msg45878046 (archived)
From Full Member Aivaryamal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5012142.msg45858030#msg45858030 (archived)
From Member M.S.I:              https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4430716.msg45761046#msg45761046 (archived)

[karagun125]

This user is now a merit source I believe.

I am indeed.  I'm also out of sMerits and I'm waiting with bated breath till the day I get topped up. 

I'm far down on this list, but I definitely support newbies IF they make good posts.  I've been hunting outside of Meta lately, looking for good ones by lower-ranked members (not just Newbies) and they are hard to find--and then there's the issue of having to check for plagiarism before giving someone merit.  I got burned once on this and almost got burned a couple of times, and it's annoying to say the least.

Getting new members here posting in the English section who can actually write well is so rare.  And it's rare when someone actually writes something that's interesting.  There are so many generic posts being written that I can't bring myself to merit them even if they make sense.  The newbies I actually sent merit to didn't write outstanding posts necessarily, but they were very good relative to the other ones in the threads they were posted in.

Note:  I don't think any of the newbies I merited were for posts in Meta in the last 3 days.  I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure that this account awards merit to newbies for thier good work. He is not giving without any beneficial post of the newbie.

[YOSHIE]

Therefore I decided to create TOP-200 of the members who support decent newbies which make useful posts and contribute to the forum development. Of course, the list likely contains merit traders and account farmers, but I suppose that most of these members give merits to newbies

I saw a lot of controversy about the Merit that was given and got by the Newbie, I do not blame this new system, it is even better with this new system, especially for more Beginners (professionals) in implementing posts on the Bitcoin Talk Forum. With so many good comparisons to know that it's not good to get a Merit I remembered one thing that stated about giving or giving alms:

"Hasn't Allah made various ways for me to give charity? Every sentence of tasbih is alms, every sentence of takbir is alms, every sentence of tahmid is alms, every sentence of tahlil is alms, amar ma'ruf nahi munkar is alms, even on one's genitals there are alms from servants.

"Jesus Then he sent the crowds to sit on the grass. And after he took the five loaves and two fish, Jesus looked up to heaven and blessed, then broke the loaves and gave them to his disciples, then the disciples. His disciples gave it to the people ".

"That there is nothing eternal and eternal in this world, the hereafter is eternal and eternal, do good while we are in this world."

The bottom line:
[Verily Sadaqah will extinguish the heat of the grave for the owner of Sadaqah] ...