CHANGELLY - Illegal exchanger from RUSSIA with FAKE team

[ni23457]

Am I the only one who has used changelly before without issue?  This was several months ago though.  Do they selectively scam now?

No, you are not one. I used them too and I had (almost  ) no problems. But I think that from time to time they and their subsidiaries just love to make extra money.

[sumair7231]

Please understand that we have no deliberate targeting. Of course, nobody is immune to issues but if they occur we do our best to solve them in the shortest terms possible. It is also important to note that in some cases we cannot assist our customers - when funds are sent to the wrong wallet, for instance. However, we are open to communication and always ready to help users with any complications but in terms of our service ONLY.
Due to the fact that our API is available to the public, we have no control over third-party services. Customers are solely responsible for their use and agree to comply with all terms and conditions applicable to third-party services.

Therefore, we strongly recommend contacting ChangeNOW where the transaction in question was processed.

haven't read the whole convo of 5 pages but api providers has full ability to stop api for any third part service

[sumair7231]

also this is just a simple case if the op hasn't send the paper the Service has to send the amount back
easy as 123

Changenow does not own the BCH if op hasn't send the images u just send them back to sender;s wallet

kudos to OP for paying for the banner

[s1lverbox]

Please understand that we have no deliberate targeting. Of course, nobody is immune to issues but if they occur we do our best to solve them in the shortest terms possible. It is also important to note that in some cases we cannot assist our customers - when funds are sent to the wrong wallet, for instance. However, we are open to communication and always ready to help users with any complications but in terms of our service ONLY.
Due to the fact that our API is available to the public, we have no control over third-party services. Customers are solely responsible for their use and agree to comply with all terms and conditions applicable to third-party services.

Therefore, we strongly recommend contacting ChangeNOW where the transaction in question was processed.

haven't read the whole convo of 5 pages but api providers has full ability to stop api for any third part service

Exactly. To get access to api service/user must register. But thats not all: Changelly as provider earning 0.5% from each transaction. So in practice they not only providing tools for the job but also charging commision to use those tools.




Bunch of tossers. Spread all over to make people aware.

[JollyGood]

Am I the only one who has used changelly before without issue?  This was several months ago though.  Do they selectively scam now?

I used Changelly twice a long time ago for small transactions, it seemed ok. Maybe they have selectively scammed for a very long time but nobody had the passion to expose them by paying for banner adverts and to open threads about them.

Remember, thanks to the OP we now know Changelly, Changenow, Evercode and Atomic Swaps are all part of the group of scammers.

[pirashki]

Changelly said we can exchange  btc no matter the amount without KYC
However they asked for KYC for this guy

So yes changelly is a scam, they must be arrested

The matter is that the author's transaction wasn't processed on Changelly. We have no access to any data concerning the user's transaction.

Too bad for your program it is now marked as a dangerous website, I tried to access it but all search engine and anti virus have marked your website as a dangerous and untrusted website, not good for a transaction based website, you will have a hard time fixing this.

I think this conversation is going too far:

Code:

https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/4871f698fc7ace402e9b510c19e95e726c0775d4076fe12aaa727a6b2ba1d816/detection

WHAT IS ALL SEARCH ENGINE AND ANTIVIRUS? 0/69?

[Vizefog]

I think this conversation is going too far

I agree, the conversation is becoming more and more confused, although for me one real cause of the problem is obvious - forging an identifier at least once. I have already said that after this act, ni23457 shares guilt with exchange 50/50. What I see now! This guy is trying to get the exchange to return him a coin without KYC, threatening to ruin the company's reputation. Who will say that this is the right thing after having compromised itself by giving a fake?

No one sees this fact, but for me this is the most important moment! And yes, I advise you to read the article in which one guy collected facts about how ni23457 affects the reputation of the exchange.

https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a

[ni23457]

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

Do you spit on the rules?

You cannot demand anything from me. You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump (650 USD). So you are nobody and I spit on you and sent what was near at hand. [Just because I like to spit on brazen assholes and humiliate them ]  What is not clear to you idiot?

So ban me and refund the money, idiot. I don't need your exchange. Who are you to hold someone's money, fucking scammer? If you are sure that you had stolen money, then you must report to the Russian police. What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

You lied all these months that you are afraid of simply returning money just because you are afraid of problems with Europol. But as soon as it became known, you just disappeared from the forum, pathetic scammers.

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly[actually parent of ChangeNOW, as it became known later] and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.

[s1lverbox]

I think this conversation is going too far

What I see now! This guy is trying to get the exchange to return him a coin without KYC, threatening to ruin the company's reputation. Who will say that this is the right thing after having compromised itself by giving a fake?

No one sees this fact, but for me this is the most important moment! And yes, I advise you to read the article in which one guy collected facts about how ni23457 affects the reputation of the exchange.

First of all. If coin was sent and gizzer refused to privide kyc docs that means coins are still belongas to him. Not some shady exchange. Secondly, Fact was that changelly and other services was fine in the past to exchange crypto for him. SO it seems selectively scamming using kyc as a main reason.

Third , no one cares about article which was done AFTER user posted here and showed many people about how scammy this bunch is. So your article is really only to make further confusion.

The only one whos lost here for now is OP with his crypto. Nonwe of the muppets from changelly and others lost. But i think this might change with time passing by.

[JollyGood]

I think this conversation is going too far

What I see now! This guy is trying to get the exchange to return him a coin without KYC, threatening to ruin the company's reputation. Who will say that this is the right thing after having compromised itself by giving a fake?

No one sees this fact, but for me this is the most important moment! And yes, I advise you to read the article in which one guy collected facts about how ni23457 affects the reputation of the exchange.

First of all. If coin was sent and gizzer refused to privide kyc docs that means coins are still belongas to him. Not some shady exchange. Secondly, Fact was that changelly and other services was fine in the past to exchange crypto for him. SO it seems selectively scamming using kyc as a main reason.

Third , no one cares about article which was done AFTER user posted here and showed many people about how scammy this bunch is. So your article is really only to make further confusion.

The only one whos lost here for now is OP with his crypto. Nonwe of the muppets from changelly and others lost. But i think this might change with time passing by.

I am not so sure about that because they selectively scam. Nobody else has managed to raise the issue in the way and manner the OP has done by exposing Changelly, Atomic Swaps and Changenow as thieves.

Now that they have been exposed maybe others will also start complaining but I refuse to accept this is a one-off theft. These are selective scammers using multiple businesses to steal peoples crypto all the while showing they are a legitimate business.

[Vizefog]

Third , no one cares about article which was done AFTER user posted here and showed many people about how scammy this bunch is. So your article is really only to make further confusion.

This review wasn't be if...

If OP had created a thread before sending a fake, I would be on his side, and perhaps I would be grateful to him. I have repeatedly stated it! I do not understand what is the point of compromising with such a stupid act (it is really stupid if not done with the intention to remain anonymous), and then complain that you were scammed? The blame lies on both sides of the conflict, that's what I'm trying to prove.

I do not claim that the exchange did the right thing, they really could have warned the OP in advance (about a possible KYC). But on the other hand, the problem with this guy is the desire to be anonymous, in any case. That is, he has hidden reasons to remain unknown by exchanging a lot of coins. I do not know... He said that he was afraid for his life... I think these are stories for children, and I see other reasons for this.

But i think this might change with time passing by.

It really is possible. All that the OP needs is sending a real ID or calling the police (in this case, he will have to reveal his identity, but he does not want this). What would you do in his place? Do you have something to hide?

I find it funny when I see his so-called “assistants” creating shit on a forum like this.

ICO. ChangeNOW.io has failed to list or exchange their own NOW tokens.

Are there not enough projects that delay listing tokens? Why this particular thread appeared shortly after OP offered to pay for the distribution of his problem on bitcointalk?

https://image.ibb.co/dcKmN9/001.png

[ni23457]

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

Third , no one cares about article which was done AFTER user posted here and showed many people about how scammy this bunch is. So your article is really only to make further confusion.

This review wasn't be if...

If OP had created a thread before sending a fake

You cannot demand anything from me. You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump (650 USD). So you are nobody and I spit on you and sent what was near at hand. [Just because I like to spit on brazen assholes and humiliate them ]  What is not clear to you idiot?

All that the OP needs is sending a real ID

to whom ?? to you???    you are just a bunch of crap - why you need my documents?  

or calling the police (in this case, he will have to reveal his identity, but he does not want this)

...the time has not come yet.

and of course I will never do this myself just because I have more interesting things. One of my Russian lawyers(as private key owner, I'll just give it to him) will do this for 1-2-3-4-5 thousands dollars. But as I said, the time has not come yet.

I find it funny when I see his so-called “assistants” creating shit on a forum like this.

ICO. ChangeNOW.io has failed to list or exchange their own NOW tokens.

Are there not enough projects that delay listing tokens? Why this particular thread appeared shortly after OP offered to pay for the distribution of his problem on bitcointalk?

https://image.ibb.co/dcKmN9/001.png

I said that I would not bother anyone for a whore like you. But ok... I asked my guys and they said that it was not their job.
Therefore, you need to think before you lie to people about the cost of your token. I see that you everywhere claim that it costs 0.2 dollar, but its real price is 0.0001 dollar - no one wants to pay more for it. Therefore, do not lie to people and then no one will blame you.


>Why this particular thread appeared shortly after OP offered to pay for the distribution of his problem on bitcointalk?
ahahaha fucking liar. You made this screenshot on August 02, 2018, 09:04:57 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4647308.msg43323447#msg43323447
but the thread(ICO. ChangeNOW.io has failed to list or exchange their own NOW tokens.) was created on September 02, 2018, 11:14:56 AM

[Vizefog]

One of my Russian lawyers(as private key owner, I'll just give it to him) will do this for 1-2-3-4-5 thousands dollars. But as I said, the time has not come yet.

It's funny how this guy will do it, if you say that BTC is banned in your country.

>Why this particular thread appeared shortly after OP offered to pay for the distribution of his problem on bitcointalk?
ahahaha fucking liar. You made this screenshot on August 02, 2018, 09:04:57 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4647308.msg43323447#msg43323447
but the thread(ICO. ChangeNOW.io has failed to list or exchange their own NOW tokens.) was created on September 02, 2018, 11:14:56 AM

What's the difference? Month or two, the fact is that I see your ears because of the author of this shit!

As I understand it, you are not capable of anything more than throwing shit, like petty bastard.

I repeat it specifically for the mentally retarded ni23457. I am not part of the exchange, I follow this story out of my own motives. Yes, I have enough time, brain and experience to analyze your actions.

[ni23457]

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

It's funny how this guy will do it, if you say that BTC is banned in your country.

haha fucking cheap bitch, I was never said this. I said that any serious business with bitcoin(especially related to exchanges) in Russia is shady, is not legal, is not controlled by any government organization

As I understand it, you are not capable of anything more than throwing shit, like petty bastard.

So ban me and refund the money, idiot. I don't need your exchange. Who are you to hold someone's money, fucking scammer? If you are sure that you had stolen money, then you must report to the Russian police. What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

You lied all these months that you are afraid of simply returning money just because you are afraid of problems with Europol. But as soon as it became known, you just disappeared from the forum, pathetic scammers.

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly[actually parent of ChangeNOW, as it became known later] and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.

I repeat it specifically for the mentally retarded ni23457. I am not part of the exchange, I follow this story out of my own motives. Yes, I have enough time, brain and experience to analyze your actions.

yes, yes, I hope that there is at least one authoritative forum user who believes you
matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

[JollyGood]

@ ni23457

Great new banner advert to protect all other users from using those scamming thieves at Changelly. "FAKE TEAM, FAKE LOCATION"

At least we all now know that Changenow, Evercode, Atomic Swaps and Changelly are all part of the same thieves who scam.

You continue to pay for banner adverts from your money just to expose those scammers who use stealth and selective scamming to steal users money. Even though they stole 110 BCH (11 Bitcoins at the time) you continue to help us all. Thank you.

As for the haters and those using multiple aliases to support the Changenow, Evercode, Atomic Swaps and Changelly scammers, I have you on IGNORE so cannot reply to your posts  

[Vizefog]

this is not work of my helpers but this is really funny   I opened the trustpilot -  OMG   What I can say to you my boy? - your St Petersburg bunch have enemies as I see

You can look there again. Your cheap trolls are clearly not aware of how an honest business works, so they will remain without a slice of pizza, in which I sympathize with them.

I repeat it specifically for the mentally retarded ni23457. I am not part of the exchange, I follow this story out of my own motives. Yes, I have enough time, brain and experience to analyze your actions.

yes, yes, I hope that there is at least one authoritative forum user who believes you
matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

It would be interesting to know on what basis you consider me to be this person. I just totally disagree with you, but it’s so convenient to insult all those who are against you.

So it turned out that, unfortunately, the majority is on your side (not for long). People do not notice the fact that you sent a fake several times!

It's funny how this guy will do it, if you say that BTC is banned in your country.

haha fucking cheap bitch, I was never said this. I said that any serious business with bitcoin(especially related to exchanges) in Russia is shady, is not legal, is not controlled by any government organization

This is a controversial statement. If there is no control, it does not mean that the business is shady. In this case, it can be argued that most exchanges are not allowed to work, but they work. The fact is that if there is no determining status, then it is impossible to call a business a shadow one. Ask your law student. Any business is legal if it does not violate the existing law. No law = no violations!

[eSurge]

Guys, TL;DR

Just used a selective reading approach to find out about Changelly's selective scamming approach

5 cents from my own exp: been using Changelly for a while, no serious issues with them. It's really hard to say whether they are scamming selectively or not, but their service is quite popular and I've never seen anything like this before.

Anyway, it does not sound reasonable for me to claim publicly that these guys running Changelly are all crooks & thieves.

As one guy just mentioned above, you can ask your law student, it's not the way to investigate and/or resolve an issue. Generally, making an outrageous scam incident public makes great results, but it shouldn't boil down to yelling "scammers" out loud about all of their subsidiaries (the latter is quite obvious to me).

[beryls76]

That's horrible. The way they create fake linkedin and twitter account is the best proof for me.

[JollyGood]

Really? I used changegelly many time since last year but I don't remember any problem I encountered from them. And was also recommended by my friends and they got no problem at all.

That is because they selectively scam their users...

[ni23457]

I found these examples in minutes of searching. Maybe they returned the coins to someone. Perhaps one of these people is even a criminal and has dirty coins.

Changelly may attempt to confiscate your funds [BACKUP]
[Call For Changelly Victims] TELL YOUR STORY - see post [BACKUP]
Changelly failed transaction for 3 BTC (~ $20k) STOLE MY MONEY? [BACKUP]
Suddenly changelly requires a KYC / AML procedure. But how do I proof ownership of my coins?? [BACKUP]
Changelly is pure fraud please be aware [BACKUP]

But what right does this bunch from St. Petersburg have in order to appropriate other people's coins?

They are not a court, not a bank or even a real legitimate exchange(they even keep the address of their office in secret). It's just a bunch of guys who bought an offshore company in a far country and run their business from Russia, from a country where cryptocurrencies have a controversial status and no Russian legal authority controls their activities.

Someone will tell me that they send all this blocked coins to some Europol. Do not be children. Even if in 1 percent of cases they worked with some kind of Europol, then in 99% of cases they left the coins for themselves.
Just look at my case. Why does Europol need my coins, even if they themselves have no questions about purity of my coins?

It is absolutely clear that my coins will remain with them and they will use it, as well as all other coins from other cases. It's just a hunt for big deposits with the help of KYC story. If people exchange hundreds of thousands of dollars in cryptocurrency, then it is clear that many of them want to do it anonymously. But these Russian businessmen understand this and use this fact in their own interests.

Obviously, traveling around the world and fooling people at conferences costs a lot of money.

If they simply don’t like someone’s coins, they should return it to the sender’s wallet. If they are absolutely sure that this coins has been stolen, then they should immediately report this incident to the police. They do not have the authority to freeze it (because they are NOBODY). If someone keeps criminal money, he is a criminal himself.