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October 01, 2018, 04:38:09 PM
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My solution is to call the racist fucks out on it. Don't just accept, call them idiots, retards, whatever. They're stupid and no one should listen to them. People sometimes need to be reminded of that, for some reason.

Don't you know they win when you do that?
Personal attacks are the equivalent of forfeiture in a debate..

If you are so right why is that all you have? Call them names?

Drop some FACTS applied with LOGIC and back them up with SOURCES..

you're also a sh*t poster. Are you even aware of that? Roll Eyes

I think he is a much better poster than chinglish sig spammers..

is this what's called freedom of speech by describing the religion of others?

It's part of it yeah, but not all of it..
You likely wouldn't understand..

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Indonesia prohibits blasphemy by its Criminal Code. The Code’s Article 156(a) targets those who deliberately, in public, express feelings of hostility, hatred, or contempt against religions with the purpose of preventing others from adhering to any religion, and targets those who disgrace a religion. The penalty for violating Article 156(a) is a maximum of five years imprisonment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Indonesia


you can't describe the Qur'an yourself when you can't read the Qur'an in Arabic.
what religion destroyed Hiroshima abd Nagasaki?
What religion slaugtered our brother on IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PALESTINE, and Rohingya MYANMAR?
don't talk about other people's religion withput ypu knowing about law, interpretation.

Damn Infidel.

The quran in english is just fine..
Japanese expansionism destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki..
Many many religions slaughtered people in those countries..
We can talk about whatever we want, free speech remember..

Calling someone an infide, what's the motive behind that?

I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Well you are in the real world now, on the internet, where a good many of us aren't oppressed so can say whatever we please..
You don't have many options other than to get over it, explode, or find a safer space..


One great things my Mother taught me from a very early age..
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never harm me."

If only more people were raised with such a lesson the world would be a better place..

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October 01, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
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My solution is to call the racist fucks out on it. Don't just accept, call them idiots, retards, whatever. They're stupid and no one should listen to them. People sometimes need to be reminded of that, for some reason.

Don't you know they win when you do that?
Personal attacks are the equivalent of forfeiture in a debate..

If you are so right why is that all you have? Call them names?

Drop some FACTS applied with LOGIC and back them up with SOURCES..

You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into.

You can present all the facts in the world to these individuals and they'll not bother to listen. It's way easier to describe them effectively as the ignorant idiots they are.
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October 01, 2018, 05:00:55 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Muhammad's a kiddie fiddler and therefore a pedophile. Your silly book is filled with false rumors, and should be categorized in the fiction section.

If Muhammad were alive today, he'd be thrown in jail for the shit he did. He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.

Overall, freedom of speech won't be limited by your nation's silly blasphemy laws.
talk to my ass
damn infidel



If your faith is so strong why do you even care about insults to them? Surely Mohammed and Allah will take care of the insults at a later date and you don't need to worry about anything. Just ignore it, especially if it's something that is only going to annoy or enrage you because people will see that and just attack you more, like the idiot above.
I really appreciate you.

but in my religion, that's the condition of faith if the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W  were insulted then we as Muslims will not be angry if their personalities are attacked but when it comes to the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W the lives are willing to be sacrified.

as a form appreciation to you, this's my last comment. I hope you can lock this thread as your form of wisdom.

thank's

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October 01, 2018, 05:05:39 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Muhammad's a kiddie fiddler and therefore a pedophile. Your silly book is filled with false rumors, and should be categorized in the fiction section.

If Muhammad were alive today, he'd be thrown in jail for the shit he did. He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.

Overall, freedom of speech won't be limited by your nation's silly blasphemy laws.
talk to my ass
damn infidel


You have a talking donkey? If so, seems like some crackpot theory your religion would come up with. I'm willing to bet Muhammad ate some ass in his lifetime. I'm actually curious how many dicks he sucked.

I wonder if he cut a hole in the Qu'ran and sucked some dicks through that hole. Seems about right for that crackpot pedophile.

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The cool thing about free speech is you really can't stop anyone from saying bad things about your faith. Saying bad things about individuals may fall under slander or libel rules, but things about faith are entirely protected here in the USA.

Can't touch me for calling your shithead of an idol a shithead Wink
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October 01, 2018, 05:11:20 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

And it is your right to feel offended. However, that right does not allow you to impinge on his right to free speech.

Being offended is completely subjective. What offends you might not offend me. Some people are very rarely offended. Others become offended at the tiniest of things, like incorrect pronouns. You have no idea if your speech might offend someone out there. If it was "freedom of speech as long as you don't offend anyone", then no one could say anything ever. If you don't want to ever be confronted with potentially challenging speech or ideas, then you can never leave the house.

Also, and importantly, nothing happens when you get offended. It's not like some physical injury you have to recover from. "I heard an offensive joke, and it gave me an ear infection!" No. Nothing happens. It doesn't matter. End of story.

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October 01, 2018, 05:17:13 PM
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I really appreciate you.

but in my religion, that's the condition of faith if the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W  were insulted then we as Muslims will not be angry if their personalities are attacked but when it comes to the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W the lives are willing to be sacrified.

as a form appreciation to you, this's my last comment. I hope you can lock this thread as your form of wisdom.

thank's
It's not often they admit that it is their religion to kill blasphemers..

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October 01, 2018, 05:26:42 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Muhammad's a kiddie fiddler and therefore a pedophile. Your silly book is filled with false rumors, and should be categorized in the fiction section.

If Muhammad were alive today, he'd be thrown in jail for the shit he did. He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.

Overall, freedom of speech won't be limited by your nation's silly blasphemy laws.
How dare you say that. Are you not ashamed to embrace religion worse than a pedophile! The God you are proud of is born in a cage without clothes and naked on a piece of wood. what is the result of adultery!
I think it's far worse than pedophiles even worse than cow dung! I am proud of Islam. Alloh my God, muhamad SAW my prophet ... Allah hu akbar ...
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October 01, 2018, 05:39:34 PM
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So the question is should racism and bigotry be banned? Maybe not in the global forum, but yes in the local forum, depending on what culture you are talking about.

Is this thread going to be off-topic (or politics & society) thread where you could flame each other? Or stay on topic and give logical explanations to support your side (related to the poll).

Roll Eyes
Is this considered as trolling?

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October 01, 2018, 05:46:06 PM
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Just an example of freedom of speech this forum provides rather than trolling.

Now, if the Islamic pig fuckers get offended over it, not a big deal Wink
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October 01, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
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.................

Are you happy make Moslem angry?

Now, I want to ask you, Do you have family? father or mother?
How you feel if some one from another country offend you father? humiliate your father.

Call your mother @#@$#^@
Call your father $&#^%^!

Will you happy?
If yes, there is something wrong with you.

(1) Baca surat Waqiah 3 - 40 kali sehari. (2) Kerjakan apa yang harus dikerjakan. Hindari semua apa yang dilarang.
Dalam konteks forum (2) belajar dan meningkatkan kualitas diri dan. hindari larangan aturan forum.
InsyaAllah rejeki lancar. Jangan lupa juga mampir di pesantrennuris.net
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October 01, 2018, 05:58:21 PM
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anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Anyone who can't handle their belief system being insulted, ridiculed, or merely brought into question is likely to not  have much "faith" in the first place.  If you were truly confident in your faith you would not be offended by trivial and bigoted comments.

It's overly sensitive attitudes like yours that give Muslims the reputation they have today.

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October 01, 2018, 06:10:51 PM
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Yeah, as much as I'm all for freedom of speech, this thread is just trolling now. I would suggest locking it.

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Humans are individual beings as well as social beings. As social beings, of course humans are required to be able to interact with other individuals in order to meet their needs. In living social life in all fields, an individual will be faced with groups of different colors with one of them being religious differences.

Note:
High tolerance makes every religious community able to relate well, despite their different beliefs and religions.


Example:
respect for religious differences.
<> Do not insult other people's religion
<> Respect the opinions of friends of different religions
<> Live in harmony without differentiating ethnicity, religion, race, nation and color.

Positive impact of tolerance between people:
<>  Avoid conflicts
<> Increase the spirit of national unity and unity
<> Creating inner and outer peace


Living in harmony and peace is beautiful?


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October 01, 2018, 07:26:02 PM
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.................

Are you happy make Moslem angry?

Now, I want to ask you, Do you have family? father or mother?
How you feel if some one from another country offend you father? humiliate your father.

Call your mother @#@$#^@
Call your father $&#^%^!

Will you happy?
If yes, there is something wrong with you.

You don't have to be happy about it, but you don't have to care about it either. Why would you be bothered by what some random person on the internet says about your parents? Why let it bother you? If somebody said something about my parents then it's just irrelevant, childish nonsense that isn't worth justifying with a reaction. Nine times out of ten people only say things to get a reaction and when they you do react they win. If you don't react then they'd probably just get bored and move on to something else but when you show someone a weakness they're just going to exploit it.

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October 01, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.


OMG!!!

This cannot be tolerated. On what basis you say that the Messenger of Allah is person bad ? If you cannot explain the basis, then I have the right to say that you are a bad person, an infidel ...

La ilaha illa Allah Muhammad Rasulullah
(there is no god but Allah, Muhammad the messenger of Allah)

If you don't like my religion Islam, that your right. But you have no right to say that the Messenger of Allah is a bad person.

If you cannot appreciate others, you cannot will appreciated.

As a Muslim, I was really offended when you said the Messenger of Allah was a bad person. For us, he is a good, clean and noble, so please respect us.

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October 01, 2018, 08:15:11 PM
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I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.
How delusional are you to not notice that attitude is the root cause of all the problems? You are okay with people shaming you, abusing you but not okay with they questioning your beliefs? This is what brainwashing does to you. No wonder most of the terrorists have the same mentality.

As a Muslim, I was really offended when you said the Messenger of Allah was a bad person. For us, he is a good, clean and noble, so please respect us.
As a human, I feel very offended that every year thousands of innocent lives are sacrificed just because some cunts are offensive about their religion. Face it, Islam is terrorism and cancer to the society. Just look at this thread and see how many Muslims are offended just because their religion is mentioned.

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October 01, 2018, 08:40:18 PM
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Racism and racist statements should not be made!
It does not matter which nationality you belong or which skin color you have!
Whether someone black, white, yellow, red, pink, green, blue, brown, is no matter because we are all human!
It does not matter what religion we belong or believe!
Everyone has their own views and beliefs and ideals.
Some can handle it, others do not!

We are all humans

So it is up to each individual how he understands and processes it!

As long as someone does not really attack me personally or more I do not care!

In 1000 years, it does not matter anymore, lol!
Peace

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October 01, 2018, 08:48:37 PM
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Really not deserve ban for it. In my opinion it will consider as trolling. Trolling is against of forum rules. You can use report to moderator for this kind of post. They are the one to decide post should delete or not. They has proved their distorted mentality, a decent minded peoples can't post like this. At least we are all human, and we made by single creator. So we should respect each other. However you might ignore this kind of people and report to moderators.

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October 02, 2018, 12:55:30 AM
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Really not deserve ban for it. In my opinion it will consider as trolling. Trolling is against of forum rules. You can use report to moderator for this kind of post. They are the one to decide post should delete or not. They has proved their distorted mentality, a decent minded peoples can't post like this. At least we are all human, and we made by single creator. So we should respect each other. However you might ignore this kind of people and report to moderators.

Considering that a moderator has already posted in the thread it is unlikely to get deleted.

Sadly people try to silence other peoples opinions when it is inconvenient to them.

I think the OP didn't realize how offensive his suggestion to censor is to some people in this forum.

It shows that some people start posting here and then try to claim ownership without understanding the whole cypherpunks roots of bitcoin.

They should read up on the Libertarian viewpoint and respect the belief of Anti-Censorship. Beliefs on which this forum was founded on and not just a fable.


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October 02, 2018, 02:59:12 AM
Last edit: October 02, 2018, 03:10:24 AM by Gagal Mancung
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As a Muslim, I was really offended when you said the Messenger of Allah was a bad person. For us, he is a good, clean and noble, so please respect us.
As a human, I feel very offended that every year thousands of innocent lives are sacrificed just because some cunts are offensive about their religion. Face it, Islam is terrorism and cancer to the society. Just look at this thread and see how many Muslims are offended just because their religion is mentioned.

What is your religion ? Tell me ...
(ISLAM IS NOT TERRORIST)

It looks like you don't have a television in your home. In fact, you don't even know about the talks UN on Islam decisions that are always considered terrorist. Remember that Islam is not a terrorist, terrorist always use the name Islam in their actions only to make the name of Islam ugly in the world ...

And you must know, no one at the UN court dares to say that Islam is terrorist.

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