AMD RX 670 | RX 680 12nm Speculations

[D1NG0]

So the rumours have been out for a week or so but AMD is not feeding it. I think they still have something in the tank before the 7nm next year, so a Polaris 30 wouldn’t be bad.

RX 670 out this month and RX 680 the next... Or who knows?!

Don’t expect a big performance boost, will be using the GGDR5 with some additional CUs.

On Ethash,
< 40MH/s for the RX 680
< 35MH/s for the RX 670
That too if it can be harnessed by the modders.

Again, might just be the romour mill.

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[Raja_MBZ]

So the rumours have been out for a week or so but AMD is not feeding it. I think they still have something in the tank before the 7nm next year, so a Polaris 30 wouldn’t be bad.

RX 670 out this month and RX 680 the next... Or who knows?!

Don’t expect a big performance boost, will be using the GGDR5 with some additional CUs.

On Ethash,
< 40MH/s for the RX 680
< 35MH/s for the RX 670
That too if it can be harnessed by the modders.

Again, might just be the romour mill.

Wow, it could be out this weekend! (of course, it's still a rumor though)

AMD Radeon RX 670 rumoured for launch this weekend

https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/122966-amd-radeon-rx-670-rumoured-launch-weekend/

I'm expecting at least 45 MH/s on Ethash with RX 680 (as I've a feeling that AMD just might have optimized these for mining).

[brunocrypto]

Amd fighting back the Nvidia ! Concurrence is good for us !

[Mattthev]

So the rumours have been out for a week or so but AMD is not feeding it. I think they still have something in the tank before the 7nm next year, so a Polaris 30 wouldn’t be bad.

RX 670 out this month and RX 680 the next... Or who knows?!

Don’t expect a big performance boost, will be using the GGDR5 with some additional CUs.

On Ethash,
< 40MH/s for the RX 680
< 35MH/s for the RX 670
That too if it can be harnessed by the modders.

Again, might just be the romour mill.

Wow, it could be out this weekend! (of course, it's still a rumor though)

AMD Radeon RX 670 rumoured for launch this weekend

https://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/122966-amd-radeon-rx-670-rumoured-launch-weekend/

I'm expecting at least 45 MH/s on Ethash with RX 680 (as I've a feeling that AMD just might have optimized these for mining).

Others says that they will lock it for bios editing.
45MH/s never...

[swogerino]

If they lock it for Bios editing they will lose a lot of customers, the miners. And since the miners are the majority of customers of AMD, they were never good enough to fight Nvidia in gaming , it can be a suicide move for them so I don't think they will lock the Bios editing feature found in the Polaris 20 cards.

This is good also for the competition as if these cards appear to be good for gaming too, Nvidia will be forced to lower their price for some of their cards. I don't expect these cards to be able to fight the RTX series because of GDDR5 limitation.

[D1NG0]

If they lock it for Bios editing they will lose a lot of customers, the miners. And since the miners are the majority of customers of AMD, they were never good enough to fight Nvidia in gaming , it can be a suicide move for them so I don't think they will lock the Bios editing feature found in the Polaris 20 cards.
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It is tempting to go over to the green-green side 

There will be ways to go around a BIOS lock. People will consider hacking through locks if the risk of voiding your warranty/RMA (some have already enforced it) is nothing compared to the benefits you will reap. But like hell that’s gonna happen. If it’s locked, it stays locked, for majority at least.

[leowonderful]

If they lock it for Bios editing they will lose a lot of customers, the miners. And since the miners are the majority of customers of AMD, they were never good enough to fight Nvidia in gaming , it can be a suicide move for them so I don't think they will lock the Bios editing feature found in the Polaris 20 cards.
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It is tempting to go over to the green-green side  

There will be ways to go around a BIOS lock. People will consider hacking through locks if the risk of voiding your warranty/RMA (some have already enforced it) is nothing compared to the benefits you will reap. But like hell that’s gonna happen. If it’s locked, it stays locked, for majority at least.

I agree. It may be some time until a tool's developed to easily mod the cards to make them bios moddable, but it'll likely happen eventually even if the BIOs is locked. It'll be interesting to see the methods employed to lock the BIOS if AMD chooses to go through with locking the cards.

It'll also be interesting to see what the pricing for last-generation 500- and 400- series cards goes down to after the launch of the 600 cards. The last gen cards are already extremely cheap, with prices falling below $90 in some places, which aren't too bad of a choice if you have cheap enough electrical rates.

[vuli1]

I have read they should release at or around 15th October.

[netto7]

wait not too long to see this card is hash faster like rumored or not

[Metroid]

I'm expecting at least 45 MH/s on Ethash with RX 680 (as I've a feeling that AMD just might have optimized these for mining).

How can you expect that? they never said anything about changing the memory to gddr6 so forget that number. Maximum it will get is 38 and that with huge memory overclock and modified timings.

[Marvell2]

price is more important for these cards, it it is say $250 and bettee than a 1070 power use and hash rsat it would be the go too card

[nitrobg]

I'm expecting at least 45 MH/s on Ethash with RX 680 (as I've a feeling that AMD just might have optimized these for mining).

Why would you expect that? GDDR5 is good up to 9000-9500MHz and the change to GDDR6 would require a brand new memory controller and a large rewrite of the chip. Ethash is NOT core starved on the current cards - it's running as well as possible with the 256-bit bus without getting limited by the core. This is literally the limit of GDDR5.
The only thing we can safely expect is either a lower voltage for the same frequency, or a higher frequency for a given voltage. Which turns into better hash/watt ratio - small gains on memory-based algorithms like CryptoNight variants and Ethash, larger gains on core-based like X16R, lyra2z/lyra2v2, equihash.

[adaseb]

I don't know how much I would trust these specs. We all know it was going to be 12nm, however looking at https://videocardz.com/ there are no leaks of any kind related to anything to the newer AMD GPUs.

I am sure if they were going to hit the stores soon they would of been leaked somewhere by now.

Either way, I don't see much demand for these GPUs. The ETH price is still low and in about a month there is going to be an issuance reduction. Many people already find it unprofitable, with the 33% loss of ETH block reward, many miners will be out of the game.

[Marvell2]

I don't know how much I would trust these specs. We all know it was going to be 12nm, however looking at https://videocardz.com/ there are no leaks of any kind related to anything to the newer AMD GPUs.

I am sure if they were going to hit the stores soon they would of been leaked somewhere by now.

Either way, I don't see much demand for these GPUs. The ETH price is still low and in about a month there is going to be an issuance reduction. Many people already find it unprofitable, with the 33% loss of ETH block reward, many miners will be out of the game.

The demand is for gamers, miners seem to forget most gpus are bought for AI farms and gamers, mining is in normal years a tiny percentage of sales.  you can see from the  2080s and its tensor core they give a flying f about miners

[netto7]

I don't know how much I would trust these specs. We all know it was going to be 12nm, however looking at https://videocardz.com/ there are no leaks of any kind related to anything to the newer AMD GPUs.

I am sure if they were going to hit the stores soon they would of been leaked somewhere by now.

Either way, I don't see much demand for these GPUs. The ETH price is still low and in about a month there is going to be an issuance reduction. Many people already find it unprofitable, with the 33% loss of ETH block reward, many miners will be out of the game.

The demand is for gamers, miners seem to forget most gpus are bought for AI farms and gamers, mining is in normal years a tiny percentage of sales.  you can see from the  2080s and its tensor core they give a flying f about miners

amd need to focus at gamer after ETH reward change to 2  i think old  amd card is sell in used a lot.

[D1NG0]

ETH is not the only way to go for AMD, you know. The Polaris 20 is arguably most efficient on the Ethash algo like the Polaris 10 it succeeded. The Polaris 30 hopefully can be a tick, although that’s a bit of a stretch knowing that AMD has its eyes on the prize - 7nm.
Still if this current timeline and rumours substantiate, there might be space for a tock, around the time of the Vega 20. Improbable? Very likely so.

[adaseb]

Gamers right now have a huge supply of any GPUs they can get.

If you guys looked at the eBay prices for the RX 470/570, they are selling for less than $100 prior to shipping.

Same with the Nvidia 1060/1070/1080/1080Ti huge discounts from MSRP.

I guess the gamers are finally happy after 1.5 years of not being able to buy a GPU at MSRP.

[huntingthesnark]

Doubt we'll see more than mid-30s on Eth, and as everybody has pointed out, that'll be irrelevant soon with reducing block reward (at least for huge swathes of the world due to power costs).

Gamers already have a huge range of last-gen cards at rock bottom prices, or better firepower in Vegas/1080tis, so not sure who these are aimed at TBH. If they're cheap enough maybe...

[Piskeante]

really?? waiting this cards for mining with ETH at lowest prices with a 11% drop today. are you fucking kidding???

You deserve to lose it all, omg.

[swogerino]

really?? waiting this cards for mining with ETH at lowest prices with a 11% drop today. are you fucking kidding???

You deserve to lose it all, omg.

There are some people who believe to in crypto so much that they are willing to mine at a loss too just to have enough crypto when the increase in the price will happen. I was one of these persons but I am not anymore as I have turned off my Rx 580 rigs which I manage for my friends and they agreed to do so. They will wait if any increase in price will happen in December and if not, they are willing to sell their rigs locally for 1500 EUR, which they have already got offers for them at this price.

I am only keeping turned on a rig with low power consumption cards like Nvidia Gtx 1050ti but that is just for hobby now as you don't make any money with them either.