You think I am a scammer? mdayonliner's reputation

[The Cryptovator]

I am really having hard time to understand the point you are trying to make. How the merit begging issue and the escrow is relevant. Seems like everything you are trying to say is - whatever I do you want me to establish as a bad one. Do we have any previous issue?

Why should have previous issue to reply with honest review? Did I create this thread? Your thread subject is " You think I am a scammer?". So everyone is free to reply with his opinion.  I did what I think. I haven't created thread against you. I can see all the replies here are against you, so all of them have previous problem with you? I don't think so.

I didn't bother myself on your others post. I told you that in my previous reply "you are exposing yourself" by creating such as thread. I have noticed, You have created multiple new thread on local board even there is pin post on your language and OP still active. However that's isn't biog deal. But you have made sound on meta multiple time about it. Is it not just you want highlight yourself by doing unnecessary job?  I can't see there is much response from your own community.

Eventually you came out with lending business. I believe your intention was just gain trust. And  I think you are failed to do that.

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Sorry, I am packing up my lending business. Lost too much money here.

To be honest, you have tried to gain trust by short cut. I have been exposing multi dozen scam, it doesn't mean I am trusted. There is no reason to trust me with fund. You shouldn't attempt to gain trust. This thread is another attempt to gain trust. Trust will come automatically depend on your activity. There is no short cut to gain it. Also I felt that once I applied for merit source. Its is really too early for me. Also personally I have felt that earn merit, make good post , scam expose and prevent spam are really totally different from trust. I told you your over-smart is responsible your reputation, and still you are doing that. I am not good writer like you, may be that's why you having hard time to understand my point.

I don't care about marlboroza's one coz it basically repeated hilari's psychology

Is it not over-smart?  You don't care his tagged so why you need to open this thread and mentioned him?

Even your intention wasn't scam, but "money could change everyone mind" its true.

Don't bother to answer the questions

I have bothered to answer because you have asked , do we have any previous issue? and answer is NO.

[pugman]

I don't know if you're a scammer or not, my stance on that is dubious. But many people don't trust or like you because they think that you're either trying to kiss some people's ass/ that you're some sort of con artist /ponzi scammer / that escrow offer deal that came out of nowhere.

About hilariousetc's tag : He is trying to protect other users, when people have scammed others for mere cents, 100,000$ is a lot of money, even though it may seem less to others, it's a lot, and no one likes to be scammed. So he's not wrong there.

Do I trust you : No, not because of your history or whatever, but I just don't trust anybody on this forum enough to escrow or even trade with, it'll probably be the last thing for me to do.

People aren't going to give you advice on what to do, some things you got to figure out for yourself. Secondly, it's a forum, your reputation here isn't going to change anything IRL. But you definitely made a HUGE mistake in linking your IRL name and other important details, very BIG mistake. Shit happens, I know, but you should have been careful. That's all I got to say for now.

[hilariousetc]

There is no way to know what you would have done with that money had you been sent it...

But leaving the feedback means you knew the outcome or technically you guessed the outcome and acted without even bothering the correction I made.

No it doesn't. It means I don't trust you. When a previous ponzi promoter tries to get his hands on $100k I think that is pretty alarming and I don't trust that behaviour. Had you of been sent that sort of money I think it's highly probable you would have just ran off with it.

I withdraw the offer immediately, I sent you PM about it but you never responded.

So? That doesn't invalidate the act and wipe it from history.

[Ucy]

It is sad you got tagged.
 Though I don't know you very much I felt bad for you because it got you off a campaign I guess. I honestly think what our dear Global Mod did was justified. He doesn't abused the tagging thing from my observation.

You should ask for pardon and never go near the escrow thing again and hopefully he forgives you

[Findingnemo]

It is sad you got tagged.
 Though I don't know you very much I felt bad for you because it got you off a campaign I guess. I honestly think what our dear Global Mod did was justified. He doesn't abused the tagging thing from my observation.

You should ask for pardon and never go near the escrow thing again and hopefully he forgives you

He was tagged even before that signature campaign started and he was accepted into that campaign because he was excellent poster and he was tagged due to the reason of he wanted to offer an escrow the amount which may be excessive for an untrusted person.He didn't create this thread not because of signature campaign tho.

[vit05]

Negative Trust is something very damaging if you plan to offer some service on the forum. But I think the biggest damage is the social one. I think the feeling must be like a person walking down the street with his pants very dirty, everyone will point fingers, say bad things etc.

And you will have to explain, often to people you've never seen, the reason that those pants are still dirty. Every time, every day.

 The trust system is broken. I understand the attempt to decentralize and leave this responsibility to users. But it is a system without weights, very unfair. The accuser could present evidence and reasons when making the decision to send trust to someone else. But this is not mandatory. That is, the accuser is the judge and no one can reverse the decision. It is not a form of fairness. There is no judgment where an independent third party makes the decision after hearing both parties. But I do not know which system could be better. Since the forum does not want to be directly responsible for the decisions of each user.

Now, in your specific case, I understand what @hilariousetc did. I had not read about it before. He made this decision to alert other users. And it looks like your intention was to sell services on the forum that depended on trust. Maybe you could have worked to avoid the social weight of negative trust. But it does not seem to me that starting to work with loans would be the most rational route to take with a negative trust. And it turned out to be a bad deal seeing the losses you have taken.

Maybe stepping away from the forum for a while might help reverse this negative trust in the future. So I hope, because you contribute a lot to the forum and could eventually help your community to participate and know more about Bitcoin. And answering your question: I do not believe you're a scamer, but if I were to introduce you to a friend to do business, I would also feel compelled to show him the topic from @xtraelv before he could make a decision.

[shasan]

I can't remember there is any escrow without green trust. Correct me if I am wrong.

There are several escrow without green trust. For reference you may see Few Trusted Escrow Provider

[allahabadi]

Do I trust you : No, not because of your history or whatever, but I just don't trust anybody on this forum enough to escrow or even trade with, it'll probably be the last thing for me to do..

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A very wise thing to say.

[LoyceV]

¹ Don't bother to answer the questions coz after this post (I may just forget about this forum completely or may consider creating another account /This time anonymous like most of you all have/)

For what it's worth: I thought it was admirable that you just continued posting, even after you received red trust. Too bad you gave up

[hilariousetc]

For what it's worth: I thought it was admirable that you just continued posting, even after you received red trust. Too bad you gave up

Whether it's admirable or not is up for debate but mdayonliner was obviously just hoping that the feedback would be removed if he stayed around and kept contributing for a bit. It was just his last ditch attempt to get it removed as there's no other option for him really unless you can build up some positive trades to neutralise it. He's moved on to another account now though, and I'm pretty sure I know which one it is already haha. I swear I'm developing a sixth sense for finding alts just by the way they type. I've probably spent too much time on this board  .

[The Cryptovator]

I'm pretty sure I know which one it is already haha. I swear I'm developing a sixth sense for finding alts just by the way they type. I've probably spent too much time on this board  .

Perhaps me too  . I don't care if he create new account or this isn't my business. But most likely I got him. People can't leave few habits ever. But I have confirmed you didn't send him merit yet although most reputed member did it. A new user posting style and old user posting type could not be same. However best of luck to him since forum allow multiple account so I don't like bother myself.

[mday_alt]

It was just his last ditch attempt to get it removed as there's no other option for him really unless you can build up some positive trades to neutralise it.

Stop feeding people that you know everything, every direction and moves of someone you don't know. You have no idea about my social and financial status, you have no idea about what I can and can't do, you have no idea about my achievements and failures, you have no idea about my educational background, my professional & personal network etc etc. Mate, we even never met! If my attempt was to get the tags removed then I would not write provoking statement about marlboroza's rating.

(I don't care about marlboroza's one coz it basically repeated hilari's psychology)

hilariousetc, you think I don't know how to treat people to get unfair advantages? I can challenge anyone to win a debate when both will have the same ground (not one is a DT1 with super power and another have a very little recognition from the community). I do know some of the unfair tricks to get advantages from uppers as much as some other smart people do here. Thing is, I don't apply it all the time. If I would then I would not use my real identity here on this forum. In that case that xtraelv and shitheads would never find that I was involved with those online marketing stuffs before (no one is perfect but that does not mean people are bad) and you would never called me ponzi promoter. How many times I had to explain that I never promoted any of these on this forum? I have left those stuffs after creating the last video when they changed their terms and that was long before I joined this forum.

On this forum, as a username (that's all matter here) - the only mistake (if I ignore my real identity things) I did was to offer that 20BTC escrow service and that's IT! You painted me with a Death Threat(order) and people started to think me that I am a scammer! Do you call it warning to the community? Where is the use of Neutral Trust?

Do you see the unfairness? (provably you will never coz you are obsessed with thinking that whatever you do is always right, you are enjoying the super power you have here as a DT1, you are obsessed with thinking that people will start donating you bitcoin for the Lambo coz you are a DT1, you are obsessed with the support you get from the ass-lickers who are waiting to get some of the power you have from you). My fight was to establish this thinking that I am not a scammer, I never scammed anyone ever. It hurts a lot when you get treated for something you are really not... I will quote vit05 since s/he explained it better than me. Thanks vit05.

I think the biggest damage is the social one. I think the feeling must be like a person walking down the street with his pants very dirty, everyone will point fingers, say bad things etc.

And you will have to explain, often to people you've never seen, the reason that those pants are still dirty. Every time, every day.

I swear I'm developing a sixth sense for finding alts just by the way they type.

Again a prove of your obsessiveness and you want to feed (a psychological attempt) the community that you know everything.

I suggest you to find the ALT and paint it with red so that I do not have to have this frustration of getting tagged after becoming a Sr. Member. (After all, these days it's not that easy to build up an account from the ground - like you did with two accounts very easily¹. Sometimes it makes me laugh why do you create topics in the reputation board using your hilariousetc account about merit abusers where you can easily tag them from your DT1 account. Competition, isn't it?)

He's moved on to another account now though, and I'm pretty sure I know which one it is already haha.

A brand new account? Jr. Member account? - that's the furthermost I can go right (if I build the account after quitting my main mdayonliner account)? FIND IT! tag it! Or give me some clue (may be first and last character of the username or anything) so that I know that you are not bluffing.

But you definitely made a HUGE mistake in linking your IRL name and other important details, very BIG mistake. Shit happens, I know, but you should have been careful.  

100% and I would advise everyone here to learn from my mistakes.

That's all I got to say for now.

Thanks mate.

Too bad you gave up

I am sorry I gave up from mdayonliner. It's too hurtful to hear people pointing me that I am a scammer.
I challenge you to become a Sr. Member by creating a brand new account which will have no connection with any of the hilari accounts. Expose it once you become a Sr. Member. You will realize the blood and sweat.
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[marlboroza]

Not sure which country you are talking about coz I live in one country but my native country is another one.

How many times I had to explain that I never promoted any of these on this forum?

Does shilling count?
This is one very interesting thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2597577.0

Recently I moved to Bangladesh and seems like the system does not support registration from here...

Do you have anything in mind for Bangladeshi users?

By the way good luck with your project. I wish I was still in UK to be part of this. No hurt feelings anyway.

What was cashbackadverts? Site is offline. On this forum https://www.beermoneyforum.com/threads/cashbackadverts-com-reviews-scam-or-legit.10290/ site was moved to HYPE section. Why would any forum move legit site to HYPE reviews https://www.beermoneyforum.com/forums/hyips-reviews.31/ ?

Or give me some clue (may be first and last character of the username or anything) so that I know that you are not bluffing.

I don't think he is bluffing 

[hilariousetc]

Stop feeding people that you know everything, every direction and moves of someone you don't know. You have no idea about my social and financial status, you have no idea about what I can and can't do, you have no idea about my achievements and failures, you have no idea about my educational background, my professional & personal network etc etc. Mate, we even never met! If my attempt was to get the tags removed then I would not write provoking statement about marlboroza's rating.

I don't claim to know everything. Where did I ever make this claim? Where did I ever claim to know how much money you may or may not have or what you can and can't do? You're just projecting things on to me based on your opinion, which is obviously biased.

On this forum, as a username (that's all matter here) - the only mistake (if I ignore my real identity things) I did was to offer that 20BTC escrow service and that's IT! You painted me with a Death Threat(order) and people started to think me that I am a scammer! Do you call it warning to the community? Where is the use of Neutral Trust?

Yes, it is a warning. Why would I give neutral. I'm not going to leave a neutral trust for someone who tries to escrow deals with little to no reputation, especially for such a high amount. I find it highly likely something would have gone amiss with this deal if it had of happened. That's just too much money and I just don't trust you and that's reflected in the feedback. I've left plenty of feedbacks against people offering escrows when they shouldn't and many of them still went on to scam. I'm not saying you would have for certain and that's something we'll never know but I still don't trust you because of it, hence the feedback.

Do you see the unfairness? (provably you will never coz you are obsessed with thinking that whatever you do is always right, you are enjoying the super power you have here as a DT1, you are obsessed with thinking that people will start donating you bitcoin for the Lambo coz you are a DT1, you are obsessed with the support you get from the ass-lickers who are waiting to get some of the power you have from you). My fight was to establish this thinking that I am not a scammer, I never scammed anyone ever.

You got me. This was all a ploy just to solicit donations from buttlickers for a Lamborghini. Well done for busting me. So far I have received zero donations for my Lambo fund so it's going very well (but if anyone wants to donate to it my address is in my profile). I mean, what the hell are you rambling on about? You got exited, did something stupid and got negative feedback. Stop talking bollocks and making stuff up just to suit your arguments.

I swear I'm developing a sixth sense for finding alts just by the way they type.

Again a prove of your obsessiveness and you want to feed (a psychological attempt) the community that you know everything.

No. This is just your opinion. I don't know everything, but I'm pretty positive I do know your alt.

I suggest you to find the ALT and paint it with red so that I do not have to have this frustration of getting tagged after becoming a Sr. Member.

Why would I do you that favour? You'll just create a new one and move on to that one then I'll have to wait till my all knowing powers sense your presence again. Maybe I will leave it negative. Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll give you a second chance, but I'm watching you, don't worry. Just don't try make any more escrow deals once you become a Senior.

(After all, these days it's not that easy to build up an account from the ground - like you did with two accounts very easily¹. Sometimes it makes me laugh why do you create topics in the reputation board using your hilariousetc account about merit abusers where you can easily tag them from your DT1 account. Competition, isn't it?)

How did I build them up very easily? You think it's easy to build the rep I have and write tens of thousands of posts over five years and acquire so much merit? And what's a competition? This account is also DT2 and I don't have time to tag them all so I let other members of the community check the info, offer their input and look for more etc.

He's moved on to another account now though, and I'm pretty sure I know which one it is already haha.

A brand new account? Jr. Member account? - that's the furthermost I can go right (if I build the account after quitting my main mdayonliner account)? FIND IT! tag it! Or give me some clue (may be first and last character of the username or anything) so that I know that you are not bluffing.

Why do I care whether you think I'm bluffing? I'd be willing to bet money on it if you want to put some in escrow (and no, we can't use you as an escrow  ).

I challenge you to become a Sr. Member by creating a brand new account which will have no connection with any of the hilari accounts. Expose it once you become a Sr. Member. You will realize the blood and sweat.
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I'd easily be able to do it, but it's not something I'm going to waste my time on just to prove something to you. If you wanted to put some substantial amount of money on this to make it worth my time I'd possibly take you up on the bet though.

[xtraelv]

Hi hilariousandco,
Just withdraw the application I did not have all those negative things in mind.

And about the investigation topic. I and marlboroza had conversations few times. I have explains the facts to him/her clearly. The OP created that topic against me because he was mad at me. He accused me for things which I never done in the forum lifetime.

I will appreciate if you take your time and read the contents of that investigation topic and this topic as well where the OP was mad at me for tagging him for merit abusing. The entire things from OP was biased by his madness.

I guess you are seeing me on the forum all the time. I never took any step which legitimately harm my reputation. I always respect value of the forum and also I never did any harm to anyone consciously. It's against my strong moral. I hope my activities in the forum backs up my claim.

After your investigation if you are satisfied then would you please remove the rad tag. Feel free to ask any question if you have.

Thanks for considering.

I wasn't going to comment but I see that you have used this as an opportunity to malign my motives - again.

Regarding the merit accusation you jumped to conclusions without even talking to me. It annoyed me that you pulled Lafu into it all. Someone who I respect for the volunteer work that he does. Someone who has received hundreds of merits from others.

But I did not create that topic because I was mad at you or out of "madness". I created the topic because it is true.

Nothing in the investigation topic that I have written is untrue. If there is anything that is untrue I will happily modify it.

You fail to take responsibility for your own actions.

Your brought attention to yourself by your activities and as a result your history as a ponzi promoter was exposed.

I don't trust you because you promoted ponzis. and did plenty of other suspect stuff.

It soon became obvious that you were creating situations to farm merit and to to obtain trust ( here and here ) while deliberately ignoring the obvious forum rule violations of people that you associate with.

The type of people that are your social media followers are the exact type of people that cause this forum so much problems.

You've been caught receiving merit from your brother.
You've been caught merit begging.
You've been caught shitposting numerous times. (73 replies deleted by moderators and 9 topics removed according to bpip.org)
You've been caught trying to escrow a large amount
You've been caught being part of a dodgy signature campaign.
You've been found to have a history of promoting multiple ponzis
You've received 3 forum bans.

In the meantime you require higher standards from others expecting them to be tagged.

Lucky you. If I were a DT or staff or even high ranked member then I would never give you this second chance. I need to save my own ass.

http://archive.is/UqLaG#selection-699.1-699.137

This is your opinion on others that break the rules:



But you don't feel that others should apply that to you. Why ?

[The Cryptovator]

I challenge you to become a Sr. Member by creating a brand new account which will have no connection with any of the hilari accounts. Expose it once you become a Sr. Member. You will realize the blood and sweat.

I don't know why are you really don't want to accept your mistake. You always try to defend yourself and always trying to win. Look like only you are right and all others is wrong. How do you think others people's are not ranking up. You didn't? And am I not doing ? There is more people's who are building own account from began. I don't see any point of your challenge. If we could build a account from began that obviously hilariousandco could. You always try to argue with them who tagged you instead of convinced. Your main point is why they should tag you since you are good poster. Do you know pride is the root for demise. I will not surprised if someday I got tag for my mistake. Even I never tried to call myself as a good poster. But it's true I am trying to learn.

To be honest, if I am on your place than I would locked this thread after 1 reply. But still you are like to argue.

[xtraelv]

Don't bother to answer the questions coz after this post (I may just forget about this forum completely or may consider creating another account /This time anonymous like most of you all have/) I will login to this forum only to communicate with the loan thread I have (There are few people who took loan from me and still on their process to give them back although I am not sure how much I will get back). I love Bitcoin and wanted to be part of the forum to promote bitcoin (I still can do my job by the way, this forum should not be the only option for me). I never had any bad intentions and will never have one coz deep down I know myself although this proves nothing for you except criticism from some of you. Thanks to the well wishers I made here also the haters. Good luck everyone.

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[shasan]

Another one ?

mdayonliner Twitter Archive

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If it means mdayonliner and quangtrung1991 are alt account then base on archive quangtrung1991, sharkboyno2, pvietnam92, Taitrader, OVERCILL and mdayonliner are same person.

[xtraelv]

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If it means mdayonliner and quangtrung1991 are alt account then base on archive quangtrung1991, sharkboyno2, pvietnam92, Taitrader, OVERCILL and mdayonliner are same person.

I think you posted the wrong archive for quangtrung1991 . It is the same as the mdayonliner one.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

So it looks like mdayonliner abused that Ambassador airdrop/bounty with alt accounts?  Does that sound about right?

(I may just forget about this forum completely or may consider creating another account /This time anonymous like most of you all have/)

I would advise you to be a lot less ambitious in your dealings on bitcointalk if you go that route.  I never thought you offered to do that escrow deal so you could run away with the money, but you most likely would have had the temptation to, and given that you didn't have a reputation as an escrow, it was an ill-advised offer.  My impression was always that you were trying to build a reputation here too quickly, and that got you in trouble.

So what about the apparent alt accounts you had participating in the bounty I mentioned above?