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March 08, 2014, 04:08:05 AM
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Dorian may have been unfamiliar with the term "bitcoin" but assumed that the reporter was using it as a reference to some other classified work.


Who says Bitcoin wasn't some classified project at one point in time and that he did indeed work on it, hence he couldn't speak about it?


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Alternatively it is possible he misheard he. She said Bitcoin and he heard _______ (the name of a project he worked on that was under NDA).  The guy is 68, had a stroke recently and English isn't his first language.  In the video he did make references to "BitCom" even after the reported said Bitcoin.

There are several telecommunications companies named bitcom. He probably though some work he did could have been associated that. He was just trying not to say anything that could breach any past disclosure agreements.

She should have found a Satoshi with Alzheimer's and gone for a full confession on record.
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March 08, 2014, 04:26:12 AM
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“His family told me that he would deny it. In fact, I was very surprised when he acknowledged it to me when I met with him.”
well his family meant to have not known anything about it, so hearing a reporter ask them of course they would reply, that he wont admit to it. coz its not him and they have never heard him mention the words before to his family. or they cold hav thought she was asking about a project he done with the government

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“When I met with him, I told him I’m here to talk to you about Bitcoin. At the time there were two police officers there. In fact, I think that initially their intention was to just escort me away, but when I said ‘Bitcoin,’ one of them was interested and let me continue talking. And I said, ‘You know, people think you were the founder of Bitcoin.’ And I asked him a few questions about, whether or not it was true, and he said, ‘I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore.’ The exact quote is in the story.

he never said the words, 'i made bitcoin' he may have however thought she was talking about a government project which he was involved in to do with aviation or defense, most contractors are never given specifics like project names. they are just ordered to install equipment in certain places or do certain tasks. governments dont divulged all the details to a contractor normally only a chief or other high ranking personel know the government projects names. so when a reporter approaches you, you know its not about dropping litter or smoking in public, so you then think it must be related to those secret projects you done for the government and reply  ‘I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore.’

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And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’ And he said, ‘Yes,’ but he went on the say that he would not elaborate at all or answer questions. And, in addition, my last question to him was, ‘If you are in anyway not connected, you need to tell me now,’ and he said, ‘I cannot do that.’”
well she initiated the questioning, so the topic was in her control. if i asked you, have you ever rode a elephant. and you gave a negative response. and i then said ‘We are talking about riding elephants here, correct?’ you would say yes.. its not like you were the one talking about .. pfft, i dunno.... ah, eating watermelons.. when she asked about elephants.. and then ofcourse you would then say you cant say anymore, as there is no more to say

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March 08, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
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Why the strange choice of phrasing?

"If you are in any way not connected, you need to tell me now" is a confusing way to phrase that statement and I doubt it was unintentional.  Apart from anything else, it's an aggressive statement.  He "needs" to tell her now or what?  Why leave the implied threat unexpressed unless you're intentionally being vague and hoping to confuse someone?

She was hoping to bully him into a "confession" and it didn't work so she needed to grasp at straws and get him to say something - anything - she could vaguely interpret as acknowledgement.


All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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March 08, 2014, 05:11:14 AM
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Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?
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March 08, 2014, 05:12:34 AM
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Another article said she was sitting on his front porch for an hour after he told her to go away.

What a fucking slob she is.   Sorry ...

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March 08, 2014, 05:48:13 AM
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March 08, 2014, 06:07:24 AM
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Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?

In California, secretly recording someone without their consent could be at least a misdemeanor offense and could also subject the recorder to civil liability.
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March 08, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’"

and he said: "what is bitcom?"

and i said: "you are satoshi right?"

and he said "yes, go away!"



makes sense.  Cheesy

When you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E

It's abundantly clear Dorian is not the creator of bitcoin.

Especially the end, "Leah wrote this?" Dorian says before shaking his head in disbelief.

I tend to agree. Either the creator of bitcoin is also a world class impromptu actor and amazing liar  or this is just a smart old many living his life in retirement with no idea what the heck bitcoin is.

And yes that reaction towards the reporter is very convenience, its a reaction of just complete shock.

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March 08, 2014, 06:26:08 AM
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Another article said she was sitting on his front porch for an hour after he told her to go away.

What a fucking slob she is.   Sorry ...

-B-

I admire the girl for being passionate about getting "the story". Unmasking the creator of bitcoin is something a lot of people would be interested in learning about so I get she was excited about getting the big story.

But in hindsight, I think she used some poor ethics. She does a great job at asking people questions in a way that gets you answers you can use to tell a story, thats what she did with this guys family.  I guarantee this guys family said a lot of things but she asked specific questions to get cetain answers and then picks and chose those answers to fit her story/accusation.

I think this lady worked on this story for so long (2 months) that even if evidence started popping up that this guy knew nothing about bitcoin,  she just couldn't be honest with herself and let it go.  For that she is wrong ,  if that's the case.

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March 08, 2014, 06:28:48 AM
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I admire the girl for being passionate about getting "the story". Unmasking the creator of bitcoin is something a lot of people would be interested in learning about so I get she was excited about getting the big story.

Part of getting the story is getting the story right.  It is clear she went into this absolutely convinced she had the right person and then acted in a way to get confirmation of it.  Confirmation bias is a piss-poor way of getting to the truth.  Whether or not she got it right, and I am increasingly doubting that, it was done in an atrociously bad way.
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March 08, 2014, 06:59:55 AM
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Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?

In California, secretly recording someone without their consent could be at least a misdemeanor offense and could also subject the recorder to civil liability.

But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.
I would have risked a minor offense to provide proof for such a big story.

And i 'm not nearly as ruthless as that girl appears to be.
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March 08, 2014, 07:20:43 AM
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But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.

Maybe that's better than having a recorded conversation that would have shown she is completely FOS.  We don't know.
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March 08, 2014, 07:23:41 AM
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Months of investigations have lead that chick to the doorstep of Satoshi Nakamoto.
And she isn't even recording the convertation?
Not even with her iphone hidden in her pocket? Isn't that a little amateurish?

In California, secretly recording someone without their consent could be at least a misdemeanor offense and could also subject the recorder to civil liability.

But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.
I would have risked a minor offense to provide proof for such a big story.

And i 'm not nearly as ruthless as that girl appears to be.

Some ppl dont even have a clue regarding audio recording law. If you're part of the conversation (which she was), you dont need to have a consent to record the conversation.

Yet many ppl was naive and feared when they are told...."violating privacy".
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March 08, 2014, 07:25:56 AM
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Either the creator of bitcoin is also a world class impromptu actor and amazing liar or

 Cheesy

Satoshi is a master of everything and anything!
He's definitely a karate master as well.
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March 08, 2014, 07:26:03 AM
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But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.

Maybe that's better than having a recorded conversation that would have shown she is completely FOS.  We don't know.

I'm pretty damn sure she recorded it. And the truth would only hurts her story, hence she destroyed it.

Its common knowledge that all investigating journalists audio record their conversations or interviews.
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March 08, 2014, 07:29:16 AM
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But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.
I would have risked a minor offense to provide proof for such a big story.

The sheriff's deputies are already corroborating her story. What a difference would a recording make? Dorian could always claim that he mistook Bitcoin for a secret government project (and that is in fact what he is claiming).
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March 08, 2014, 07:31:28 AM
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But she is now cornered because the only proof she has is her word about an alleged conversation.
I would have risked a minor offense to provide proof for such a big story.

The sheriff's deputies are already corroborating her story. What a difference would a recording make? Dorian could always claim that he mistook Bitcoin for a secret government project (and that is in fact what he is claiming).

Link or stfu
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March 08, 2014, 07:36:03 AM
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Link or stfu

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-la-sheriffs-say-satoshi-nakamoto-man-did-talk-about-bitcoin-to-newsweek-reporter-20140307,0,609860.story
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March 08, 2014, 07:41:30 AM
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Thats not confirming her story. Its about the quote in the story being correct. Which does not mean Dorian was talking about bitcoin as Leah claimed.

Keep pumping your scamcoin dumbass if you cant even spread FUD right.

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March 08, 2014, 07:54:00 AM
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Thats not confirming her story. Its about the quote in the story being correct. Which does not mean Dorian was talking about bitcoin as Leah claimed.

So you are basically claiming that the Sheriff's office is intentionally misleading the public here? I am pretty sure that the Sheriff's deputies were fully aware whether Dorian understood Bitcoin being discussed or not, otherwise they would not have made the statement.
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