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March 07, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
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“When I met with him, I told him I’m here to talk to you about Bitcoin. At the time there were two police officers there. In fact, I think that initially their intention was to just escort me away, but when I said ‘Bitcoin,’ one of them was interested and let me continue talking. And I said, ‘You know, people think you were the founder of Bitcoin.’ And I asked him a few questions about, whether or not it was true, and he said, ‘I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore.’ The exact quote is in the story. And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’ And he said, ‘Yes,’ but he went on the say that he would not elaborate at all or answer questions. And, in addition, my last question to him was, ‘If you are in anyway not connected, you need to tell me now,’ and he said, ‘I cannot do that.’”

Source: http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/07/nakamoto-bitcoin-newsweek

At first I did not believe Dorian S Nakamoto could be the true Satoshi, but I am beginning to find more plausability in the idea. I guess if anyone could find the two officers and either of them could verify Goodman's account of the story that may offer more concrete evidence beyond the very circumstantial proof that's been given thus far.
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March 07, 2014, 07:41:48 PM
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’"

and he said: "what is bitcom?"

and i said: "you are satoshi right?"

and he said "yes, go away!"



makes sense.  Cheesy

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March 07, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’ And he said, ‘Yes,’ "
Typical journalist leading question. She mentions bitcoin a few times and then asks him if she is talking about bitcoin. What else is he going to say other than "yes"! ffs

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March 07, 2014, 07:54:19 PM
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Dorian may have been unfamiliar with the term "bitcoin" but assumed that the reporter was using it as a reference to some other classified work.
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March 07, 2014, 07:57:45 PM
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At least it is clear that one of them is lying about the conversation. Both of the accounts (his & hers) can't possibly be true.
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March 07, 2014, 08:03:03 PM
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At least it is clear that one of them is lying about the conversation. Both of the accounts (his & hers) can't possibly be true.
Has happened though, criminals would confess to their crimes only later in court to deny everything.

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March 07, 2014, 08:05:27 PM
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Of course, I tend to not believe if the cops says one way or another. Without audio/video evidence its just a case of he said she said.

IMO, The way she got to his house makes me wonder the integrity of her work. She lied the whole up to... so she most likely lead with a series of questions to get an answer that she could mold into what she wanted.

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At least it is clear that one of them is lying about the conversation. Both of the accounts (his & hers) can't possibly be true.
Has happened though, criminals would confess to their crimes only later in court to deny everything.
Cops cant lead a suspect though like that can they?

IMO with the amount of evidence provided this would have been laughed out of court in a heartbeat.

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March 07, 2014, 08:39:47 PM
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my mother said my cousin said the friend of his friend told my uncle that my mother said
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March 07, 2014, 08:43:34 PM
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It makes no sense for Satoshi to be honest with her and then turn around to deny it, especially considering he had many days to prepare for such an encounter.

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March 07, 2014, 08:44:28 PM
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Once again I have to ask, we're to believe she conducted this interview without audio or video recording? If so, we're supposed to trust her recollection of the exact wording, and question order?  If she's not basing her reporting on personal recollections and in fact does have a recording (a/v, or audio), then where is it?
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March 07, 2014, 08:44:32 PM
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OMG, you guys are so crazy.. Its fucking him. He was confronted by one nice, cute looking blonde reporter and he spilled the beans. Then the whole world shows up on his door step and he said hes not the guy.  You cant actually believe that do you?

Andreas and Gavin are in the know.

I am in the know, and soon you guys will realize that Satoshi loves trains, lives in CA has a few kids and drives a corolla.
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March 07, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
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my mother said my cousin said the friend of his friend told my uncle that my mother said

Don't leave me hanging, dude! Was there, or wasn't there a goat?
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March 07, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
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"And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’"

and he said: "what is bitcom?"

and i said: "you are satoshi right?"

and he said "yes, go away!"



makes sense.  Cheesy

When you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E

It's abundantly clear Dorian is not the creator of bitcoin.

Especially the end, "Leah wrote this?" Dorian says before shaking his head in disbelief.
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March 07, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
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OMG, you guys are so crazy.. Its fucking him. He was confronted by one nice, cute looking blonde reporter and he spilled the beans. Then the whole world shows up on his door step and he said hes not the guy.  You cant actually believe that do you?

Andreas and Gavin are in the know.

I am in the know, and soon you guys will realize that Satoshi loves trains, lives in CA has a few kids and drives a corolla.

I tend to need actual evidence to believe things.

If you like to believe everything "nice, cute looking blonde reporter"s say... well... you might be in for a shock some time in your future.

I like proof too, but the proof in the case is in the pudding. Do you think people would be offering charter jets, donations ect if this was not Satoshi. The heat would die down instantly and he would go back to real life. NO NEED TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS ON A GUY WHO IS NOT SATOSHI. Hes Satoshi, Gavin knows it and so do I. He even spent bitcoins in a F2F transaction and that person remembers how he looked.

Its him, we'll all know soon enough once he has time to get some fiat together, get his family safe and have a much needed beer with Gavin.
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March 07, 2014, 08:59:58 PM
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Did you see those reporters in the video when he was being hounded?

"WHY DID YOU CREATE BITCOIN!? WHY DID YOU CREATE THE BITCOIN!!!"

They don't even ask *if* - they simply assume they are right.

In summary (these type of) journalists are a pack of animals on a hunt, and they'll take down the prey, with little care if they have the right person.

And there's no way she can back down now with such claimed accuracy to the story. She can only repeat her belief and hope enough people believe her such that she doesn't lose too much face.

This guy also appears to have far from perfect command of English, apparently may have had a stroke (i.e. brain confusion), so it's entirely plausible he might say anything to get this woman to leave him alone. And since he may actually have worked on classified stuff, if some random person starts asking about some technology he doesn't know about, it seems reasonable he might assume it was related to his government work.

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March 07, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
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OMG, you guys are so crazy.. Its fucking him. He was confronted by one nice, cute looking blonde reporter and he spilled the beans. Then the whole world shows up on his door step and he said hes not the guy.  You cant actually believe that do you?

Andreas and Gavin are in the know.

I am in the know, and soon you guys will realize that Satoshi loves trains, lives in CA has a few kids and drives a corolla.

I tend to need actual evidence to believe things.

If you like to believe everything "nice, cute looking blonde reporter"s say... well... you might be in for a shock some time in your future.

I like proof too, but the proof in the case is in the pudding. Do you think people would be offering charter jets, donations ect if this was not Satoshi. The heat would die down instantly and he would go back to real life. NO NEED TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS ON A GUY WHO IS NOT SATOSHI. Hes Satoshi, Gavin knows it and so do I. He even spent bitcoins in a F2F transaction and that person remembers how he looked.

Its him, we'll all know soon enough once he has time to get some fiat together, get his family safe and have a much needed beer with Gavin.

As soon as I see some actual evidence I will be able to make a decision.

So you're on the fence. You do think it may be him, am I correct?
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March 07, 2014, 09:08:08 PM
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In the article it says:

"I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection."

In the her explaination here there's no mention of the original quotes.

"I cannot talk about that. I’m not connected with it anymore."
And I reasserted, ‘We are talking about Bitcoin here, correct?’ And he said, ‘Yes,’
And, in addition, my last question to him was, ‘If you are in anyway not connected, you need to tell me now,’ and he said, ‘I cannot do that.’”
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March 07, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
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OMG, you guys are so crazy.. Its fucking him. He was confronted by one nice, cute looking blonde reporter and he spilled the beans. Then the whole world shows up on his door step and he said hes not the guy.  You cant actually believe that do you?

Andreas and Gavin are in the know.

I am in the know, and soon you guys will realize that Satoshi loves trains, lives in CA has a few kids and drives a corolla.

I tend to need actual evidence to believe things.

If you like to believe everything "nice, cute looking blonde reporter"s say... well... you might be in for a shock some time in your future.

I like proof too, but the proof in the case is in the pudding. Do you think people would be offering charter jets, donations ect if this was not Satoshi. The heat would die down instantly and he would go back to real life. NO NEED TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS ON A GUY WHO IS NOT SATOSHI. Hes Satoshi, Gavin knows it and so do I. He even spent bitcoins in a F2F transaction and that person remembers how he looked.

Its him, we'll all know soon enough once he has time to get some fiat together, get his family safe and have a much needed beer with Gavin.

As soon as I see some actual evidence I will be able to make a decision.
You're not really "making a decision" if you have more evidence than that. It's like taking a rock to thirty geologists who assert it is indeed a rock and then saying "I've made a decision; it's a rock." Cheesy

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March 07, 2014, 09:14:06 PM
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OMG, you guys are so crazy.. Its fucking him. He was confronted by one nice, cute looking blonde reporter and he spilled the beans. Then the whole world shows up on his door step and he said hes not the guy.  You cant actually believe that do you?

Andreas and Gavin are in the know.

I am in the know, and soon you guys will realize that Satoshi loves trains, lives in CA has a few kids and drives a corolla.

I tend to need actual evidence to believe things.

If you like to believe everything "nice, cute looking blonde reporter"s say... well... you might be in for a shock some time in your future.

I like proof too, but the proof in the case is in the pudding. Do you think people would be offering charter jets, donations ect if this was not Satoshi. The heat would die down instantly and he would go back to real life. NO NEED TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS ON A GUY WHO IS NOT SATOSHI. Hes Satoshi, Gavin knows it and so do I. He even spent bitcoins in a F2F transaction and that person remembers how he looked.

Its him, we'll all know soon enough once he has time to get some fiat together, get his family safe and have a much needed beer with Gavin.

As soon as I see some actual evidence I will be able to make a decision.

So you're on the fence. You do think it may be him, am I correct?

No. I've only seen people claim it's him. I've also seen people claim it's not him.

As I said, I need to see some actual evidence before I could possibly make a decision. I'm not just going to guess based on what others have said.

So you're not leaning in one direction or another?  Interesting.  Do you believe in karma?
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