idacpro - SCAM ICO - FAKE TEAM / stealing people's identity

[ICOEthics]

What happened: FAKE TEAM / Stealing people's identity

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068602.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20181113183149/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068602.0

Scammers Website: http://www.idacpro.io
http://web.archive.org/web/20181029173753/http://www.idacpro.io/

This page is archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/20181127221455/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.0  (27/11/2018)







FAKE NAME: Kelvin Smith
REAL NAME:  Birger Kollmeier German physicist
https://www.audiology.org/about-us/academy-information/academy-honors/birger-kollmeier-phd
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Birger_Kollmeier_Oldenburg.jpg

His photos are all over the internet and FREE to download:
https://www.needpix.com/photo/437566/birger-kollmeier-professor-blackboard-physics-lecturer-university-teacher





FAKE NAME:  JOHN WILSON - STOCK IMAGE
https://stock.adobe.com/search?load_type=visual&native_visual_search=5bd73fdd35e18&similar_content_id=&is_recent_search=&k=&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&asset_id=39401425





FAKE NAME: Sean HE
REAL NAME: Dr. Jay Evans
https://www.missoulacurrent.com/business/2018/09/um-translational-medicine-grant/
http://hs.umt.edu/dbs/people/default.php?s=Evans4801
http://innovatemontana.com/news/jay-evans

[ICOEthics]

Now they removed the fake team - a sign of guilty or what?

[ICOEthics]

They created a new post:

ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068602.0
http://web.archive.org/web/20181113183149/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068602.0

[IDAC]

What happened: FAKE TEAM / Stealing people's identity

Scammers Website: http://www.idacpro.io
http://web.archive.org/web/20181029173753/http://www.idacpro.io/

http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/idacpro%20fake%20team.JPG



http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/1a.JPG

FAKE NAME: Kelvin Smith
REAL NAME:  Birger Kollmeier German physicist
https://www.audiology.org/about-us/academy-information/academy-honors/birger-kollmeier-phd
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Birger_Kollmeier_Oldenburg.jpg

His photos are all over the internet and FREE to download:
https://www.needpix.com/photo/437566/birger-kollmeier-professor-blackboard-physics-lecturer-university-teacher



http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/2a.JPG

FAKE NAME:  JOHN WILSON - STOCK IMAGE
https://stock.adobe.com/search?load_type=visual&native_visual_search=5bd73fdd35e18&similar_content_id=&is_recent_search=&k=&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&asset_id=39401425




http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/3a.JPG
FAKE NAME: Sean HE
REAL NAME: Dr. Jay Evans
https://www.missoulacurrent.com/business/2018/09/um-translational-medicine-grant/
http://hs.umt.edu/dbs/people/default.php?s=Evans4801
http://innovatemontana.com/news/jay-evans

THIS IS A SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.0

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

[ICOEthics]

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

Completing KYC with a website that takes money from scammers will not help. ICOBench is no longer a reputable source of information. There are many valid evidence agaist them and they refused to address those accusations:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065117.0

And especially with thousands and thousands of stolen ID's via KYC system used by the scammers, now it is easy to pass any KYC at ICOBench.

DO NOT send anything in private message, we will not open any links coming from you. Post any message from your CEO here, so everyone can see, read, and take their own conclusion.

And FYI are used to see scammers changing the team and coming out with the same lame excuses, like the one that you posted above.


Your CEO doesnt have a Linkedin profile? WHY?





All the Linkedin accounts of your "new team" appears to be brand new!!! Probably just released from a Chinese scam factory.




And who is World Help Disability Welfare Foundation SOmething new just created probably by one of the Chinese scam factories as well? Their website doesn't even work






AND none of the members of your advisory team has a link to your scam ICO.

[IDAC]

What happened: FAKE TEAM / Stealing people's identity

Scammers Website: http://www.idacpro.io
http://web.archive.org/web/20181029173753/http://www.idacpro.io/

http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/idacpro%20fake%20team.JPG



http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/1a.JPG

FAKE NAME: Kelvin Smith
REAL NAME:  Birger Kollmeier German physicist
https://www.audiology.org/about-us/academy-information/academy-honors/birger-kollmeier-phd
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Birger_Kollmeier_Oldenburg.jpg

His photos are all over the internet and FREE to download:
https://www.needpix.com/photo/437566/birger-kollmeier-professor-blackboard-physics-lecturer-university-teacher



http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/2a.JPG

FAKE NAME:  JOHN WILSON - STOCK IMAGE
https://stock.adobe.com/search?load_type=visual&native_visual_search=5bd73fdd35e18&similar_content_id=&is_recent_search=&k=&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&asset_id=39401425




http://icoethics.com/imgs/idacpro/3a.JPG
FAKE NAME: Sean HE
REAL NAME: Dr. Jay Evans
https://www.missoulacurrent.com/business/2018/09/um-translational-medicine-grant/
http://hs.umt.edu/dbs/people/default.php?s=Evans4801
http://innovatemontana.com/news/jay-evans

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

[ICOEthics]

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

You sound like a parrot repeating yourself.

Why dont you finish creating the Linkedin profile for the rest of your fake team. Many of them still with a broken link.

And what happened to her profile? Disable now? was that up just to help you with your KYC at that bench site? Or was it reported?

[marlboroza]

Both team members disappeared from linkedin, here is chao gou's linkedin account: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chao-guo-4a130416b/

we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

I missed this part about KYC before, but it is worth to mention it and great to know that ICObench's KYC test means nothing:

Even though conducting a KYC procedure cannot guarantee that the team is real, that they aren’t running a scam, or that the ICO will be successful, we will still use it as a tool to detect fraudulent ICOs and to make the decision if the ICO should be accepted or not easier. We strongly suggest that you don’t follow the KYC results blindly but still do your own independent research and focus not only on the team members but other aspects of the project as well.

If you don't mind to upload short video of your team members talking about project, including this member https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068602.msg48155211#msg48155211.

Can you do that to clear all doubts?

[The Cryptovator]

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Thank you for what ? OP caught your fake team and you have changed picture successfully and now no one can say your team is fake. That's why thank ? Yes, you changed team picture after exposed, it dose'nt mean you have changed your intention. What is ICObench? Is it US security organizations or something else? Why should we ask question to them ?

Your team was fake means your intention isn't fair. If again  proved that picture also fake, will you change again ? Wondering, why are you not painted ?

[ICOEthics]

Delisted

[ICOEthics]

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

You never passed anything... We sent a message to ICOBench and they delisted your scam ICO.

[TomIDAC]

Hi ICOEthics,
This is Thomas, the managing director of World Help Disability Welfare Foundation. I would like to address some of the questions you are asking. But before that I would also hope that you can clarify here in your thread why you intentionally missed out some of the important details in the letter I sent you. A lot of the answers you are looking for I have already tried to provide you with in that letter. So I am going to answer them again here.

1. Is World Help Disability Welfare Foundation and IDAC real?

Yes. World Help Disability Welfare Foundation is an officially registered organisation in Singapore with two aims - to help families and people with disabilities and to collect and analyse data which helps to develop new technologies for the disabled communities. It is rather strange for me to see that you purposely left out the part where I told you that we are able to provide you with the official government documents regarding our organisation which you can use to verify with the Singapore government. The government of Singapore is one of the most efficient and non corrupted government organisations in the world, I am sure they would be able to assist you should you require any clarification from them.

As for IDAC, it is a project that we are jointly developing with Zhongke Hive, a team of developers in China. The testnet is almost ready and will be released for testing soon after the ico. The platform is aimed at improving the current state of charity, where the management of charitable fund is highly centralised and untrackable. The project was partially inspired by some major cases of fraud and corruption, including the case of Haiti earthquake relief work where a huge sum of donation went missing under the management of the American Red Cross organisation.

2. Did we use fake IDs initially before our ICO sale?
Yes. And we have expressed our sincere apologies and provided you with a detailed explanation for it. Again you intentionally left out the details and instead, used the word 'lame' as your response. So I will try to provide the details here again. Like I mentioned earlier, the team mainly consists of Chinese engineers and developers (like a lot of the major crypto companies do) , who do not wish to reveal their identities due to the recent government crack down on any crypto related projects in China. The team members have other career commitments and some of them work in government funded organisations. So it is really very inconvenient and even risky for them to reveal their identities. However, after we found out about your post and learnt that there are people who actively look for dubious icos and give out warnings, we felt that you guys have a good cause and as developers, we should be responsible and honest for our product despite the risks that some of us might be taking. So we decided to stand by our creation, and replaced these fake IDs with real people from our team.

3. Did we pass KYC on ICObench?

Yes. We indeed passed all of the kyc tests ICObench requested for. I have no idea why you claimed that we did not pass any kyc test, that is simply untrue.

I hope I have answered some of your questions. If you need any more clarification, i am here to answer them. ICObench is requesting for extra kyc verifications at the moment, once that is done IDAC will be relisted because we are able to provide authentic proof of our work to them.

[ICOEthics]

Earlier ICOBench had delisted this scammer after we sent them a message.




Now ICOBench relisted again but asking for KYC of 5 members. And they posted a warning message with a link to this post.





Lets see if ICOBench will keep them. OLGA FOMINA (the book writer with another name) already failed their KYC
(Aлecя Cepгeeвнa Дoвлaтoвa: https://www.ozon.ru/person/3621565/)

[morvillz7z]

Olga is a Russian journalist and advertising specialist. Previously released books under pen name

I didn't know about that other idac topic at first, it's not unusual to see writers using pseudonyms. However, I doubt that's the case here:

https://librusec.pro/a/243721

https://vk.com/dovlatovalesya

https://www.reklama-expo.ru/ru/news/digest-2016.02/interview_ang_8/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Besprotsentny-kredit-Shokiruyushchaya-besprotsentnykh-kreditakh/dp/B005FBWDGS/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543344995&sr=1-1&refinements=p_27%3AAlesya+Dovlatova+Alena+Narinyani

[marlboroza]

~

Cut the crap - can you upload video of your team members including that one which fail KYC test or not?

Now ICOBench relisted again but asking for KYC of 5 members. And they posted a warning message with a link to this post.

Actually 3 new members have been invited, as 2 team members passed KYC previously. Makes me wonder...

[bitbollo]

"The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project"

I am truly curious to understand this passage.  
- you removed some active team member from your staff?
- not all people are/were listed on your project?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.msg47918098#msg47918098
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.msg48153167#msg48153167

Reply with the same post could help a lot .... to get a permanent ban!

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

[TomIDAC]

This is Thomas, the managing director at World Help disability Welfare Foundation Singapore. Again it is truly strange and unfortunate that ICOEthics simply choose not to respond to proper replies and explanations provided by the IDAC team aiming at clarifying the doubts. Certain important details were also intentionally left out of their discussion. ICOEthics also failed to provide the reason behind this intentional disregard of many important details they have been provided with by the devs when asked. Instead they keep on holding on to the same outdated 'proof' for which explanations and apologies have been given a long time ago. These apologies and explanations have not been professionally discussed or mentioned by ICOEthics, they do not communicate at all or respond, especially when we have informed them that we are able to provide legal documents of our organisation for them to verify.

We suspect there is blackmailing and foulplay involved with ICOethics. According to some investigation conducted, ICOEthics.com ranks at 5, 524, 013th, with very little traffic and also a donating system that accepts 'contributions' to their organisation. The amount of contributions they received at the moment is '0' ETH. Within the posts by ICOEthics against IDAC, some choices or words are very unprofessional and there are also obvious racism in some of expression used, which we will take into consideration when discussing our further actions. The team is in the mids of discussing how they can resolve the issue, lawyer engagements are also being discussed.

we are happy to answer any questions about IDAC, our testnet is almost completed and will be available for testing soon. We believe that this milestone will be able to prove our product and intentions, at the same time debunking any dubious claims.

Thomas

[TomIDAC]

"The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project"

I am truly curious to understand this passage.  
- you removed some active team member from your staff?
- not all people are/were listed on your project?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.msg47918098#msg47918098
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059552.msg48153167#msg48153167

Reply with the same post could help a lot .... to get a permanent ban!

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

Thank you for your attention to the project. The team was updated with new real people who are actively involved in the development of the project. These changes were made due to the imposed ICO restrictions by China. Despite all the difficulties, we have completed KYC at ICObench and are ready to answer your questions.

Welcome to our chat https://t.me/IDACOfficial1

In addition, we would like to send you a letter from the project CEO in your pm. Thank you for your attention and your time. We believe that you change your opinion about the project.

Hi this is Thomas, the managing director at World Help Disability Welfare Foundation. I have already provided answers to your question in the response above, maybe you have missed it.

[TomIDAC]

Hi ICOEthics,
This is Thomas, the managing director of World Help Disability Welfare Foundation. I would like to address some of the questions you are asking. But before that I would also hope that you can clarify here in your thread why you intentionally missed out some of the important details in the letter I sent you. A lot of the answers you are looking for I have already tried to provide you with in that letter. So I am going to answer them again here.

1. Is World Help Disability Welfare Foundation and IDAC real?

Yes. World Help Disability Welfare Foundation is an officially registered organisation in Singapore with two aims - to help families and people with disabilities and to collect and analyse data which helps to develop new technologies for the disabled communities. It is rather strange for me to see that you purposely left out the part where I told you that we are able to provide you with the official government documents regarding our organisation which you can use to verify with the Singapore government. The government of Singapore is one of the most efficient and non corrupted government organisations in the world, I am sure they would be able to assist you should you require any clarification from them.

As for IDAC, it is a project that we are jointly developing with Zhongke Hive, a team of developers in China. The testnet is almost ready and will be released for testing soon after the ico. The platform is aimed at improving the current state of charity, where the management of charitable fund is highly centralised and untrackable. The project was partially inspired by some major cases of fraud and corruption, including the case of Haiti earthquake relief work where a huge sum of donation went missing under the management of the American Red Cross organisation.

2. Did we use fake IDs initially before our ICO sale?
Yes. And we have expressed our sincere apologies and provided you with a detailed explanation for it. Again you intentionally left out the details and instead, used the word 'lame' as your response. So I will try to provide the details here again. Like I mentioned earlier, the team mainly consists of Chinese engineers and developers (like a lot of the major crypto companies do) , who do not wish to reveal their identities due to the recent government crack down on any crypto related projects in China. The team members have other career commitments and some of them work in government funded organisations. So it is really very inconvenient and even risky for them to reveal their identities. However, after we found out about your post and learnt that there are people who actively look for dubious icos and give out warnings, we felt that you guys have a good cause and as developers, we should be responsible and honest for our product despite the risks that some of us might be taking. So we decided to stand by our creation, and replaced these fake IDs with real people from our team.

3. Did we pass KYC on ICObench?

Yes. We indeed passed all of the kyc tests ICObench requested for. I have no idea why you claimed that we did not pass any kyc test, that is simply untrue.

I hope I have answered some of your questions. If you need any more clarification, i am here to answer them. ICObench is requesting for extra kyc verifications at the moment, once that is done IDAC will be relisted because we are able to provide authentic proof of our work to them.

Some of the doubts can be clarified in this reply. The IDAC team is making a video at the moment to discuss what IDAC is in detail. Please stay tuned for that!

[ICOEthics]

This is Thomas, the managing director at World Help disability Welfare Foundation Singapore. Again it is truly strange and unfortunate that ICOEthics simply choose not to respond to proper replies and explanations provided by the IDAC team aiming at clarifying the doubts.

There is nothing you can say that will change our opinion. SO there is nothing strange about us not responding to your LAME excuse. You already admited a fake team, using fake ids...

2. Did we use fake IDs initially before our ICO sale?
Yes.....

We suspect there is blackmailing and foulplay involved with ICOethics. According to some investigation conducted, ICOEthics.com ranks at 5, 524, 013th, with very little traffic and also a donating system that accepts 'contributions' to their organisation. The amount of contributions they received at the moment is '0' ETH.

LOL @ your investigation...

Within the posts by ICOEthics against IDAC, some choices or words are very unprofessional and there are also obvious racism in some of expression used... which we will take into consideration when discussing our further actions. The team is in the mids of discussing how they can resolve the issue, lawyer engagements are also being discussed.

RACISM? roflao.  GO ahead scammer, get your FAKE lawyer involved. GO to SHutterstock.com and choose a nice picture of him/her.

NOW about your FAKE :

OH NO!!! THEY DIDN'T PASS KYC