Wasabi Wallet 1.0 Is Released

[layer1gfx]

Disclaimer:
This is a copy of the original announcement made by one of the developers,
Adam Ficsor, alias nopara73 on the 31st of october on medium.com:

https://medium.com/@nopara73/wasabi-1-stable-f8bc5e48289f


Wasabi Wallet 1.0 Is Released

The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks

I am speechless. Anonymous Bitcoin… at last. The past three years of my life
has been leading up to this moment. Announcing the 1.0 release of Wasabi
Wallet makes me excited, but also… terrified. Once in a while something
happens that completely changes the course of history and this is such a
moment. It is a truly historic one. If it goes well, after Bitcoin takes over the
world, we will live in a free one, and not in an enslaved one. There is still a lot
to do. A lot to build, a lot to refine, but the genie is out of the bottle and it will
be bloody hard to stop it.

Happy 10th Bitcoin whitepaper anniversary to everyone!

Download Wasabi

…from its website over the clearnet or over Tor.

Wasabi In A Nutshell

Wasabi is a privacy focused, Bitcoin wallet for Windows, Linux and OSX. It is
the only deployed truly light wallet that protects you from information leak
against network adversary. Wasabi has a high volume built in mixing
functionality, based on Chaumian CoinJoin. Wasabi also comes with an
advanced coin control feature and an intra-wallet blockchain analysis tool to
help you make educated decisions at spending.
It is easier to use than it sounds.

For the insider jokes, credit goes for varsnotwars

Find Out More…

 * ZeroLink Research
 * Wasabi Source Code
 * History of Wasabi Video Presentation
 * Technical Overview of Wasabi and Plans for the Future

I Don’t Need Privacy Right Now, Maybe Later

Anonymity Loves Company. The more users use Wasabi, the more privacy it
provides and the faster it provides it. Anonymity systems need to be bootstrapped
and this is why Wasabi needs you and it needs you right now.

Screenshot of Wasabi’s Status box before the 1.0 Release

Fire up your Wasabi and start providing liquidity for CoinJoins to bootstrap
the system and to make Bitcoin fungible again!

https://wasabiwallet.io/

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Feel free to talk about Wasabi in social media. Especially if you are not using it:

No rights reserved by the author.

#Bitcoin #Privacy #Blockchain

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[layer1gfx]

Wasabi Wallet in a Nutshell by @patestevao

[nopara73]

Nice! I'm just checking in here, so the I'll be notified by the replies to this thread.

[buwaytress]

A privacy wallet for Bitcoin that's out of Beta, nicely done. Can't say I've heard about this before, so wonder where all the beta testing took place. By chance, any link to Samourai (gleaning from the Japanese inspiration...).

Definitely want to try this out, even if the fact that it's native Segwit only might mean (by their own admission) some form of privacy lost (but only revealing Wasabi coinjoin utxo).

Only note that possible leaks could happen with wallet recovery... and I recover my wallets quite often! Just because I delete the client after using on most devices.

Still... looks a decent light client on paper. Anyone else give this a whirl?

[layer1gfx]

By chance, any link to Samourai (gleaning from the Japanese inspiration...).

yes. the wasabi wallet features the zerolink protocol.

[tarball]

What does 0.1 btc minimum mean? Does it mean I must have a minimum of 0.1BTC to participate in a coinjoin tx?

[bob123]

What does 0.1 btc minimum mean? Does it mean I must have a minimum of 0.1BTC to participate in a coinjoin tx?

This means that the input you are using to participate in the coinjoin features has to be more than 0.1 BTC.

So, owning more than 0.1 BTC is not enough, you need to use/spend more than 0.1 BTC in such a transaction.

[HeRetiK]

I've heard about Wasabi mostly on Reddit, nice to finally see a thread about it on Bitcointalk. I was already wondering when you'd show up

I have yet to test-drive this wallet, but it's definitely good to see some innovation in the Bitcoin wallet space.

[tarball]

What does 0.1 btc minimum mean? Does it mean I must have a minimum of 0.1BTC to participate in a coinjoin tx?

This means that the input you are using to participate in the coinjoin features has to be more than 0.1 BTC.

So, owning more than 0.1 BTC is not enough, you need to use/spend more than 0.1 BTC in such a transaction.

Yeah, figured. But that would be stupid to say you need to have 0.1BTC in the wallet but need not use it.

Unfortunately the coins I want to put in a coinjoin is only 0.01BTC. rip

[nopara73]

0.1BTC minimum sucks. On the bright side the intuition is clear with Unequal Input Mixing, it just needs some more research: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/Meta/blob/master/README.md#unequal-input-mixing

[MadGamer]

Are there any plans to implement more privacy-focused features like TumbleBit? I have been told that Breeze wallet did that but until now, I'm not sure what are the differences between it and CoinJoin and If it's any better.

[aoluain]

This is interesting. White the thread is primarily about privacy can you post
Details about the security, private keys, seeds. I currently use Exodus desktop
wallet and we all know there is a degree of centralisation there.
How would Wasabi be different jn this regard?

[nopara73]

Are there any plans to implement more privacy-focused features like TumbleBit? I have been told that Breeze wallet did that but until now, I'm not sure what are the differences between it and CoinJoin and If it's any better.

You can read about our plan under the "IV. Bitcoin Privacy Improvements" section of our "A Technical Overview of Wasabi Wallet, Future Ideas, Plans and Strategy" document: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/Meta/#iv-bitcoin-privacy-improvements 

Regarding TumbleBit: no. I spent a year of trying to make that work, but when I wrote the blog post "TumbleBit vs CoinJoin" (https://medium.com/@nopara73/tumblebit-vs-coinjoin-15e5a7d58e3) I realized we can do better with a specific type of CoinJoin, which at the time I called "CoinJoin as envisioned" and ended up designing and later implementing ZeroLink into Wasabi: https://github.com/nopara73/ZeroLink/

[Kryptowerk]

Very interesting project.

Has there been some code review by trusted parties/programmers etc.?

Will definitly keep an eye on this!
Thanks!

[MadGamer]

Very interesting project.

Has there been some code review by trusted parties/programmers etc.?

Will definitly keep an eye on this!
Thanks!

The wallet is not that new, It used to be called HiddenWallet and If you check the GitHub repository, you'll see the number of contributors, forks, stars etc. so the answer for your question is yes, this should be stable and safe to use If that's what you're asking.

[btctrad0r]

nopara73
Dec 25, 2018 · 4 min



Upcoming Wasabi Wallet Hard Fork
During the developer meeting yesterday an interesting idea has been brought up that would enable us to…

[btctrad0r]

nopara73
Dec 27, 2018 · 6 min



Why Bitcoin?
Or, why not?
A mental model, that can help you to decide what to work on and what to not work on.

[btctrad0r]

>> News on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wasabiwallet

[layer1gfx]

February Tweets from the last weeks:

Wasabi meetup Toronto - February 21, 2019 - https://www.meetup.com/Toronto-BTC-Meetup/events/258693349/

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Today is #WasabiWednesday, take care of your privacy and make sure that your anonymity set is over 9000!!

@wasabiwallet

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@nopara73 gives an important talk on the current state of Bitcoin fungibility.
Although the NSA attempt to disrupt his talk mid-way 😂,
he provides an overview of all privacy technologies used in Bitcoin
https://vimeo.com/316635787

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[RELEASE] Wasabi Wallet v1.1.1: Partial Bitcoin Core Integration

Also includes .deb package for Debian and Ubuntu based Linuxes and other larger works.

https://wasabiwallet.io/#download

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1) Next week our Bitcoin TechDays are on!
What started as a plan for just another meetup escalated into a 2-day conference.
The community in Munich welcomes @BobMcElrath, @nopara73, @_JustinMoon_,
@digi_james, @renepickhardt, @kilrau, @sputn1ck and more!

https://bitcoin-techdays.org/

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We are listed on http://bitcoin.org  among the suggested wallets.

➡️ https://bitcoin.org/en/wallets/desktop/windows/wasabi/

! Reclaim your privacy now !

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Since August 1, 2018. @wasabiwallet made over 10 000 BTC fungible!
Over 1540 successful mixing rounds!

[layer1gfx]

Robert Steinadler writing for the German website bitcoin-kurier.de released an article in German about the Wasabi Wallet on 25th February:

"
Bitcoin transactions are not anonymous, but pseudonymous.
Although many users feel safe behind their computer, you can analyze transactions.
Many users are of the opinion that this is not bad. Is that so?
"


Read the Article: "Privatsphäre mit Wasabi Wallet"
https://bitcoin-kurier.de/privatsphaere-mit-wasabi-wallet/

[btctrad0r]

Working to make bitcoin transactions more private, @wasabiwallet developer @molnardavid84 is joining the #MITBitcoinExpo!
It is exiting to learn about how they’ve implemented coinjoin in a trustless way!
#TheNext10Years Get your tickets here: http://mitbitcoinexpo.org/

[Etabit]

Hi
I try install on Mac I see error .
Please check this

[nopara73]

I try install on Mac I see error .

What error do you see?

[BitMaxz]

Hi
I try install on Mac I see error .
Please check this

Wasabi have their own support from here https://www.reddit.com/r/WasabiWallet/

If you can make a screenshot you can post it here if what error shows in your wallet. So that we know exactly the problem of your wallet in your OS.

[nopara73]

1. Why minimum amount of Bitcoin constantly changed? Few days ago, it was about 0.099BTC, but now it's about 0.11BTC
2. Is it possible to manually select connected peers, such as our own full nodes?

1. Sorry, this was the first change the past half a year. I've been wanting to make this change a long time since it's simpler to work with 0.1x than 0.09x and I thought this may be the right time.

2.  Partly. For now if you have a full node running on the same computer Wasabi will download blocks from that instead of peers. We are working on more comprehensive full node integrations, too, we just added this partial Bitcoin Core integration first, because it was a low hanging fruit.

[nopara73]

Changes are described in the Release Notes: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/releases

[BitMaxz]

I'm currently testing coinjoin but it seems I can make anonymize transaction or a clean/private coin and merge all transaction into one?

Is it possible to merge all transaction after coinjoin or I mean I would like to make an anonymous transaction through coinjoin but I'd like them to become one so that no bitcoin remaining in my wallet when sending it. is it possible?

Edit: I end up mixing coins to chipmixer anyway, I learned something how their coinjoin works.

[nopara73]

You want to send to your hardware wallet don't you? Next release will have Coldcard integration and probably Ledger Nano S, KeepKey, Trezor and BitBox, too, so you may want to wait for it.

[layer1gfx]

You want to send to your hardware wallet don't you? Next release will have Coldcard integration and probably Ledger Nano S, KeepKey, Trezor and BitBox, too, so you may want to wait for it.

that's great, so that update would include some of my hardware wallets as well.
nice to hear that there will be some cooperation with well-known hardware wallet companies.

[layer1gfx]

All you need to know about #bitcoin #privacy and @wasabiwallet



Interview: Nopara on Wasabi Wallet, Bitcoin privacy & fungibility

https://cryptoinsider.com/interview-nopara-wasabi-bitcoin-privacy-fungibility/

[layer1gfx]

stickonaut posted on twitter about wasabi on the 17th april:

It seems @nopara73 of @WasabiWallet hasn't slept since we met in Malta and he integrated hardware wallets into their wallet. 😀 If you can compile Wasabi from source, please try it out and join the testing issue with your feedback: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/pull/1341 … Thank you!

[layer1gfx]

hehe this is cool, check the newest wasabi tweet by adam nopara73

@nopara73 10 hours ago

Sending bitcoins from @Trezor to @COLDCARDwallet using @wasabiwallet



With @wasabiwallet you will be able use hardware wallets. Featuring: the hand of @nopara73.
You can go home or you can go hardware wallet (or both in our case).
@COLDCARDwallet @Trezor

[TryNinja]

He also said he’s just waiting for his Ledger to arrive.

So... Ledger support soon.

Maybe it is finished by now I cant test. I won't have access to a Ledger until next week.

https://twitter.com/nopara73/status/1118883094180679680?s=21

[Baofeng]

Finally, https://twitter.com/nopara73/status/1120828610519216130



Wasabi v1.1.4: Hardware Wallet Integration

https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/releases/tag/v1.1.4

[layer1gfx]

David Molnar tweeted the following about his visit at the trezor headquarters in prague on the 24th april:

Just left @Trezor HQ in Prague. It was nice to be part in a delightful conversation about Unclonable Hardware and implementing Non-User Interactive signing, which could be used for @wasabiwallet CoinJoin in the future. "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

[ranman09]

What does 0.1 btc minimum mean? Does it mean I must have a minimum of 0.1BTC to participate in a coinjoin tx?

This means that the input you are using to participate in the coinjoin features has to be more than 0.1 BTC.

So, owning more than 0.1 BTC is not enough, you need to use/spend more than 0.1 BTC in such a transaction.

Yeah, figured. But that would be stupid to say you need to have 0.1BTC in the wallet but need not use it.

Unfortunately the coins I want to put in a coinjoin is only 0.01BTC. rip

Was about to install it until I read this. Seems not suitable for me, for now. 0.01 is near reach. I hope you guys can minimize this at least.

[TryNinja]

Was about to install it until I read this. Seems not suitable for me, for now. 0.01 is near reach. I hope you guys can minimize this at least.

That’s the minimum amount to participate in a Coinjoin tx (a type of decentralizated mixer) and not to use the wallet.

[ranman09]

Was about to install it until I read this. Seems not suitable for me, for now. 0.01 is near reach. I hope you guys can minimize this at least.

That’s the minimum amount to participate in a Coinjoin tx (a type of decentralizated mixer) and not to use the wallet.

Oh. Will I still be able to use it's privacy features without it? I guess not?? Sorry real newb.

[TryNinja]

Oh. Will I still be able to use it's privacy features without it? I guess not?? Sorry real newb.

The only thing you won’t be able to do is participate in the Coinjoin.

[ranman09]

Oh. Will I still be able to use it's privacy features without it? I guess not?? Sorry real newb.

The only thing you won’t be able to do is participate in the Coinjoin.

Oh great! Thank you for clarifying!

[layer1gfx]

some retweets in may on https://twitter.com/wasabiwallet

WasabiWallet Retweeted @PurseIO May 3

If you're going to be making online purchases @PurseIO has some good advice

You can achieve privacy on your Amazon purchases, today:

1. Use @wasabiwallet to secure your coins anonymity
2. Sign up on http://Purse.io  and use a P.O Box or package forwarder address
3. Get 20% off on your Amazon purchases.
4. Enjoy

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WasabiWallet Retweeted Hajdú Gergely @gergely_hajdu May 2



Since August 1, 2018. @wasabiwallet made over 30 000 BTC fungible!
Over 3210 successful mixing rounds!

[layer1gfx]

Retweeted by @WasabiWallet

Wasabi Wallet FAQ
https://github.com/6102bitcoin/FAQ/blob/master/wasabi.md


Day 2 Videos for #UnderstandingBitcoin:     

DEMO - @wasabiwallet by @nopara73

https://t.co/M4ZgHIPfuf

[layer1gfx]

congratulations to wasabi wallet, it is well deserved!

Code:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Hello all,

this is to announce that we're awarding:
* 10 BTC to JoinMarket, for the first practical CoinJoin solution, and continued research into progressing this domain.
* 10 BTC to Wasabi, for building a more end-user accessible solution and larger adoption.

The remainder of the funds is left for future solutions with more ubiquitous impact on the ecosystem.

For those watching, 822f559df14894bd57bdd1ef0ab983228b7816a69d035cc1c5d18fb569ee5e94 is the payout transaction, crediting
several individual contributors directly as requested by the winning projects, and aggregating the remaining bounty funds
into a single UTXO. It is (obviously) a joined transaction, mixed with other transfers.

Congratulations!
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Congratulations to the Wasabi and JoinMarket developers! JoinMarket pioneered a lot of CoinJoin science (and BTW, belcher wrote an excellent & comprehensive wiki article on privacy), while Wasabi is the first wallet that implements CoinJoin in both a highly-usable and sound way. As both a signer and a donor to the CoinJoin bounty fund, I'm thrilled that these two pieces of software exist!

For everyone looking to improve their privacy, I highly recommend checking out Wasabi, especially over centralized "mixers".


Further work is still necessary toward achieving default-fungibility, which is IMO the end goal. Even with Wasabi, you need a fair bit of expertise to maintain privacy, and the vast majority of people are using wallets that are terrible privacy-wise. Without intending to say that the bounty fund will reward people for these specific things, I'd personally like to see:

 - Improvements to make Wasabi more of a complete wallet.
 - CoinJoin integration in other wallets, especially Bitcoin Core.
 - Research on doing CoinJoin in decentralized ways. (Wasabi's method is pretty secure, but requires a centralized coordinator.)
 - Other research (and, perhaps more importantly, usable products) for improving day-to-day privacy.

[Dancing_Coin]

Hi guys!

Don't you have a mobile wallet?

[TryNinja]

Hi guys!

Don't you have a mobile wallet?

No. But AFAIK it is (or at least it was) planned: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/Meta/issues/9

[Dancing_Coin]

Hi guys!

Don't you have a mobile wallet?

No. But AFAIK it is (or at least it was) planned: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/Meta/issues/9

Ok let's take a look
thnx

[logfiles]

The YouTube video shared here was deleted. Is there any other explainer video about Wasabi wallet features and how to use it available?

This video explains more about this specific Wasaby Wallet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdRXVZ0IOu

[DireWolfM14]

Can I recover a seed generated by Electrum with an extension?

[nopara73]

> Can I recover a seed generated by Electrum with an extension?

Only if it's a bech32 wallet.

[BitMaxz]

> Can I recover a seed generated by Electrum with an extension?

Only if it's a bech32 wallet.

No, if it's generated from Electrum even it's bench32 (bc1) addresses it will give you different addresses after you recover with a seed generated from Electrum.

I already tested it and it gives me different addresses.

[nopara73]

> No, if it's generated from Electrum even it's bench32 (bc1) addresses it will give you different addresses after you recover with a seed generated from Electrum.

Oh really? Is this some configuration issue? I only tested the other way around. 

There's one trick you have to pay attention that comes to my mind. In Wasabi we use password as the passphrase, so you cannot arbitrarily choose your password in the recovery tab, because it'll act like a passphrase, too. You will want to leave the password empty in case you don't have a passphrase in Electrum. 

[Chris!]

I've recommended wasabi to so many people at this point but never thought to look for posts on bitcointalk. It came at just the right time with all centralized mixers getting pwned in one swipe. I'll be following along to see what else comes up down the road!

[OmegaStarScream]

I was browsing reddit & saw this tweet

If you are using wasabi, you need to read this thread: https://t.co/FL7f30nWeC

"With Wasabi if you are mixing 10 BTC, I can trivially track that 10 BTC as it is peeled down into smaller utxos. The left over change is part of the mix tx, and thus creates a determinstic link"

I have concern about part where Wasabi CoinJoin output is ordered by registration/enqueue time, i checked few of CoinJoin history & apparently most of them have behavior mentioned on twitter/telegram. Any thoughts?

The developer responded about that accusation yesterday: https://medium.com/@nopara73/wasabileaks-is-wasabi-wallet-deanonymized-5e3f679d866e

[layer1gfx]

i prefer wasabi, to be honest.
good article by nopara73, great he took the time to talk through all of the allegations.

[layer1gfx]

Dávid Molnár published a new article on medium: PROTECTING PRIVACY WITH WASABI WALLET
there he explains why we need privacy, fungibility and how to improve on privacy.



here is the youtube video of david's presentation at the Bitcoin2019 conference on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOMcU8MhWM

[Wind_FURY]

I found this while doing some research on JoinMarket, Wasabi, and Samourai. It's a PSA/blog made by Samourai's team, of all people.

nopara73, can you comment?

https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/updated-psa-wasabi-wallet-is-the-target-of-ongoing-behavior-that-appears-to-be-a-sybil-attack-6674a322e187

On July 22nd we disclosed that an unknown entity was engaging in a strange pattern of address reuse within Wasabi Wallet transactions created since June 1, 2019. The disclosure focused on a single entity (ANON-2300390908). This entity was easy to discover due to very uncommon behavior, such as using the same address on both sides of a mix transaction. Our claim was that this behavior could indicate an attempt to de-anonymize users of the platform as well as highlighting an incomplete implementation of the ZeroLink protocol as coded by Wasabi Wallet.

Our continued investigations have revealed systematic and ongoing patterns of behavior resembling a Sybil attack within the Wasabi platform. There are a small number of entities (perhaps a small group of users, or a single user) that represent a large part of the UTXOs active in Wasabi mix transactions. This activity has been ongoing in various waves of intensity since January 2019.

[layer1gfx]

I found this while doing some research on JoinMarket, Wasabi, and Samourai. It's a PSA/blog made by Samourai's team, of all people.

nopara73, can you comment?

https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/updated-psa-wasabi-wallet-is-the-target-of-ongoing-behavior-that-appears-to-be-a-sybil-attack-6674a322e187

Few concerns are answered on https://medium.com/@nopara73/address-reuse-in-wasabi-ef9e308c9175 which written on same day as Samourai's article.
I'm not sure whether it's response to Samourai's article or written after Samourai's article posted though

we had this situation before and i start to believe samourai does this all on purpose to pick a fight with wasabi.
maybe... some of their concerns are even legit... but their presentation is a tiny bit too dramatic to be considered as just a friendly criticism.
i am with team wasabi. go debunk that shite!

[nopara73]

A Sybil attack is when one party participates in a coinjoin with most of the peers. For example Samourai knows everyone's past and future wallet addresses, except the few Dojo users. In this case Dojo users are Sybil attacked by Samourai by design. In Wasabi, the participant who reuses 2 addresses in many rounds only participates as one peer in a round. This party participated in 10% of the coinjoins only as one peer. 99% of us in a round are not affected. Then they go on to talk about other kind of address reuses, like donations and coordinator address and such and somehow want to extend the logic of the first case, which was flawed to begin with to these too. The fact of the matter is that no other address reuse types reuse addresses in both the input and in the output side, so Sybil is not even a question here. But also, getting back to their first example, if someone would want to Sybil, then that someone wouldn't modify Wasabi's code to reuse 2 addresses in the first place, because a successful Sybil attack needs to be unnoticed. The only thing that address reuser achieved is for Samourai to build a carefully engineered media lie campaign. Only they benefited from this and nobody's privacy has been ruined by this. Based on their scammer history, chances are they're doing that in the first place.

[Wind_FURY]

A Sybil attack is when one party participates in a coinjoin with most of the peers. For example Samourai knows everyone's past and future wallet addresses, except the few Dojo users. In this case Dojo users are Sybil attacked by Samourai by design. In Wasabi, the participant who reuses 2 addresses in many rounds only participates as one peer in a round. This party participated in 10% of the coinjoins only as one peer. 99% of us in a round are not affected. Then they go on to talk about other kind of address reuses, like donations and coordinator address and such and somehow want to extend the logic of the first case, which was flawed to begin with to these too. The fact of the matter is that no other address reuse types reuse addresses in both the input and in the output side, so Sybil is not even a question here. But also, getting back to their first example, if someone would want to Sybil, then that someone wouldn't modify Wasabi's code to reuse 2 addresses in the first place, because a successful Sybil attack needs to be unnoticed. The only thing that address reuser achieved is for Samourai to build a carefully engineered media lie campaign. Only they benefited from this and nobody's privacy has been ruined by this. Based on their scammer history, chances are they're doing that in the first place.

But then, is there any other reason for "why" the address reuse by that particular "participant"? The question not intended as a challenge, but out of curiousity.

[layer1gfx]

“Use CoinJoin, but learn about it and don’t assume you are private. Always mix.”

Coindesk: A Battle Between Bitcoin Wallets Has Big Implications for Privacy

[nopara73]

But then, is there any other reason for "why" the address reuse by that particular "participant"? The question not intended as a challenge, but out of curiousity.

Why that strange behavior happened is a great mystery. The only theory I could come up with that actually made sense is that it's Samourai itself, of course I have no idea, nor days or weeks to investigate it.

[Wind_FURY]

But then, is there any other reason for "why" the address reuse by that particular "participant"? The question not intended as a challenge, but out of curiousity.

Why that strange behavior happened is a great mystery. The only theory I could come up with that actually made sense is that it's Samourai itself, of course I have no idea, nor days or weeks to investigate it.

That's a grave accusation that could demolish their standing in the community, be careful. But truly disgusting, if proven true.

[nopara73]

That's a grave accusation that could demolish their standing in the community, be careful. But truly disgusting, if proven true.

Samourai has a long shady history surrounded by extreme incompetence. It'd be perfectly in-character for them to do this.

- https://medium.com/@nopara73/samouraileaks-samouraidevs-sockpuppet-exposed-7ce654b92c0b
- https://medium.com/@nopara73/samouraileaks-part-2-harassment-of-bitcoin-developers-fae3019abd2f
- https://medium.com/@nopara73/samouraileaks-part-3-is-random-org-random-enough-35704796ae93

[buwaytress]

Who'd have thought that these wallets would be battling for supremacy only to bring about mutually assured denouncement?

Been completely unaware of all this background happenings in Samourai, but I wonder if anyone else notice this aggressive response to criticism is something a bit more common in dev-world? I totally get the defensiveness, I'd be all up in arms if someone criticised my work, but then I wouldn't go down warpaths haranguing other devs.

A belated question: but Samourai and Wasabi... any reason for these names? HiddenWallet, DarkWallet... and then this move. A vague link to Nakamoto etymology?

[layer1gfx]

i suggest renaming the wallet to "shinobi" - a real samurai wouldn't act this way.

*adds wasabi*

[Wind_FURY]

Who'd have thought that these wallets would be battling for supremacy only to bring about mutually assured denouncement?

Been completely unaware of all this background happenings in Samourai, but I wonder if anyone else notice this aggressive response to criticism is something a bit more common in dev-world? I totally get the defensiveness, I'd be all up in arms if someone criticised my work, but then I wouldn't go down warpaths haranguing other devs.

A belated question: but Samourai and Wasabi... any reason for these names? HiddenWallet, DarkWallet... and then this move. A vague link to Nakamoto etymology?

While JoinMarket is going along quietly. Maybe they're the bad-actors, making Wasabi and Samourai fight. Haha.

That was a joke.

i suggest renaming the wallet to "shinobi" - a real samurai wouldn't act this way.

*adds wasabi*

Or NinjaAssasin the Honorless Wallet.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe this settles it. Jorge Timon is in the same thread calling them out too. A friend of mine also said that Gregory Maxwell also did.

I was slightly doubting nopara73, honestly. Sorry.

https://twitter.com/lukedashjr/status/1165628234597355520

Samourai likes to advertise features that they don't actually have, and add "features" that don't do what they claim.

Their reaction to me calling them out, has so far been to troll me. I think others calling them out have received the same treatment.

[layer1gfx]

Andreas Antonopoulos Bitcoin Q&A: Samourai, Wasabi, and privacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pjs3bz9-8

[nopara73]

Andreas Antonopoulos Bitcoin Q&A: Samourai, Wasabi, and privacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pjs3bz9-8

Middle ground fallacy. "An informal fallacy which asserts that the truth must be found as a compromise between two opposite positions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

[layer1gfx]

Andreas Antonopoulos Bitcoin Q&A: Samourai, Wasabi, and privacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pjs3bz9-8

Middle ground fallacy. "An informal fallacy which asserts that the truth must be found as a compromise between two opposite positions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

i posted this because it was nice that andreas mentioned wasabi. but he is rather diplomatic i would say.

[layer1gfx]

Image: zkSNACKs founders (left to right) Lucas Ontivero, Balint Harmat, Gergely Hajdu and Adam Ficsor. Courtesy of zkSNACKs

Good news:
+ New CTO prioritizing open source contributions, so far this project is doing unusually well in that regard.
+ @nopara73 focusing on privacy research, including full BTC node features in the wallet (!)
+ # of BTC mixing txs is surging

full article on coindesk: Leadership Shakeup at Wasabi Wallet as Bitcoin Business Surges

[layer1gfx]

If you created your wallet with an empty password, this hotfix is for you!

https://twitter.com/molnardavid84/status/1172420536447586306?s=21

[RELEASE] Wasabi v1.1.8: Community Edition - Hotfix

https://wasabiwallet.io

With the v1.1.7 release, you could not spend funds if your wallet was created with an empty password. It is fixed in this hotfix.

More details here: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/releases/tag/v1.1.8

[layer1gfx]

just in case you missed this visual from the 1st birthday of wasabi wallet tweeted on the 31st october.

here it is:

[layer1gfx]

RECAP: Bitcoin Magazine Article: Nopara73 on Wasabi Wallet and the Quest for Bitcoin Privacy

[nopara73]

Is it still as useless as it used to be?

Yes, many of your UX critics are correct, so if that's your criteria of qualifying it as "useless" then it indeed is.

However, regarding merging together mixed UTXOs you are wrong: https://old.reddit.com/r/WasabiWallet/comments/avxbjy/combining_mixed_coins_privacy_megathread/

[mocacinno]

I realise this isn't the default support channel, but since i'm not a redditor and the lead dev seems to visit this thread once in a while, i decided to post my question here

I found some strange behaviour on the TESTNET, i didn't lose anything, not even TESTNET coins, but if i weren't on the TESTNET, my heart would have skipped a beat.

The setup:
OS: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
Wasabi version: 1.1.10.2
Tor Disabled
Local node enabled
bitcoin core is sync'ed
backend is connected



I have funded, and moved around a couple addresses with some tBTC, then closed the gui and waited for a clean shutdown.
Afterwards, i restarted wasabi, waited untill the node was up and running again, opened my wallet.... Aaaand.... No funds 

I restored the wallet in electrum and see all those transactions funding my addresses... But in wasabi: nothing.

However, when i create a new address, the key path is 84'/0'/0'/0/9. So Wasabi knows it already derived 8 addresses and they were funded, but it decided not to show those transactions funding those first 8 addresses...





If i fund address 84'/0'/0'/0/9 (tb1q57p5taq0dvlpm7url7n2kdh90h5n2mug5aays3), the transaction shows up, but it remains unconfirmed (eventough core is synchronised and the backend is connected, and the transaction IS in fact confirmed)... (i messed up and send 1 mtBTC instead of 1BTC, but this isn't the problem, i funded the other 8 addresses with inputs of up to 5 tBTC)

I used an unspent output funding a previously derived wasabi address to fund address 84'/0'/0'/0/9, and wasabi detected the transaction that funded both 84'/0'/0'/0/9 AND the change address 84'/0'/0'/1/1






Soooo... Basically, i ended up with wasabi telling me i have a wallet with 0.00129791 tBTC, 2 unspent outputs from one transaction... While electrum tells me this wallet is funded with 5.57983242 tBTC, 6 unspent outputs funding  6 addresses (including 2 change addresses).

If i close wasabi and re-open it, i'm sure that wasabi will tell me i have an empty wallet (already tested this a couple times before to confirm the behaviour).

Code:

2020-01-21 14:21:12 INFO        Program (44)    Wasabi GUI started (be2de3a6-f9ee-428a-9b05-9aaf0f3a4cf7).
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        Global (164)    Config is successfully initialized.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        TransactionStore (28)   ConfirmedStore.InitializeAsync finished in 4 milliseconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        Global (230)    TorProcessManager is initialized.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        Global (418)    Loaded AddressManager from `/home/wasabi/.walletwasabi/client/AddressManager/AddressManagerTestNet.dat`.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        MainWindow.xaml (74)    UiConfig is successfully initialized.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        TransactionStore (28)   MempoolStore.InitializeAsync finished in 384 milliseconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:15 INFO        AllTransactionStore (27)        InitializeAsync finished in 389 milliseconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:18 INFO        IndexStore (43) InitializeAsync finished in 3 seconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:18 INFO        BitcoinStore (39)       InitializeAsync finished in 3 seconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:19 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Connection refused
2020-01-21 14:21:19 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Verifying wallet(s)...
2020-01-21 14:21:19 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Loading block index...
2020-01-21 14:21:29 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Rewinding blocks...
2020-01-21 14:21:29 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Verifying blocks...
2020-01-21 14:21:31 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (58)   Bitcoin Core is not yet ready... Reason: Loading wallet...
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        BitcoindRpcProcessBridge (52)   RPC connection is successfully established.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        CoreNode (164)  Started Bitcoin Core.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        CoreNode (48)   CreateAsync finished in 13 seconds.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        HostedServices (49)     Started Software Update Checker.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        HostedServices (49)     Started Block Notifier.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        HostedServices (49)     Started RPC Monitor.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        HostedServices (49)     Started RPC Fee Provider.
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        Global (349)    Start connecting to nodes...
2020-01-21 14:21:32 INFO        Global (373)    Start synchronizing filters...
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        Global (722)    Wallet loaded: Wallet0.
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        ClientState (468)       Round (33305) added.
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        ClientState (468)       Round (33306) added.
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        Global (506)    Start Chaumian CoinJoin service...
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        Global (508)    Starting WalletService...
2020-01-21 14:24:21 INFO        CoinJoinClient (141)    CoinJoinClient is successfully initialized.
2020-01-21 14:24:22 INFO        Global (510)    WalletService started.
2020-01-21 14:28:46 INFO        Global (661)    Transaction Notification (Success): Received Replacable Transaction - 0.00129791 BTC - 3b98ecbb7c7fa5db5bb175b7bb883337a814548caa1bf3209651b0cacfa4dc07
2020-01-21 14:29:05 ERROR       WasabiSynchronizer (305)        Newtonsoft.Json.JsonReaderException: Unexpected character encountered while parsing value: <. Path '', line 1, position 1.
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonTextReader.ReadStringValue(ReadType readType)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonTextReader.ReadAsString()
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonReader.ReadForType(JsonContract contract, Boolean hasConverter)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.Deserialize(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, Boolean checkAdditionalContent)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonSerializer.DeserializeInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonSerializer.Deserialize(JsonReader reader, Type objectType)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject(String value, Type type, JsonSerializerSettings settings)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject[T](String value, JsonSerializerSettings settings)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject[T](String value)
   at System.Net.Http.HttpContentExtensions.ReadAsJsonAsync[T](HttpContent me)
   at System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessageExtensions.ThrowRequestExceptionFromContentAsync(HttpResponseMessage me)
   at WalletWasabi.WebClients.Wasabi.WasabiClient.GetSynchronizeAsync(uint256 bestKnownBlockHash, Int32 count, Nullable`1 estimateMode, CancellationToken cancel)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.TaskExtensions.WithAwaitCancellationAsync[T](Task`1 me, CancellationToken cancel, Int32 waitForGracefulTerminationMilliseconds)
   at WalletWasabi.Services.WasabiSynchronizer.<>c__DisplayClass60_0.<<Start>b__0>d.MoveNext()

[nopara73]

Since it's a testnet wallet, can you share your extpubkey? With this we can avoid back and forth debugging. In the wallet file there's a line:

Code:

"ExtPubKey": "xpub12234"

[mocacinno]

Since it's a testnet wallet, can you share your extpubkey? With this we can avoid back and forth debugging. In the wallet file there's a line:

Code:

"ExtPubKey": "xpub12234"

No problem, like you say: it's a testnet wallet

Code:

"ExtPubKey": "xpub6DWrfCFdchVSbJ8vTprYwoXwy3Z8rucCS7Kv24WgFdexQWuayE36ARNGNdbc8xktgbn5WnVVoW15qWCSLXcJVnqYz4e6uizNLjX4TSFdJQu",

Like i said: no harm was done, it's all on the testnet, and i can use electrum to recover my unspent outputs (sufficiently large tBTC outputs are hard to come by nowadays), but i tought it would be good if i didn't give up on wasabi, but rather tried to give you the info you need to find the problem.

[nopara73]

Actually I don't need it, as I got the same report from someone else, too. Turns out on the coordinator side the filters on the testnet got stuck at block 1639121. While according to SmartBit the latest block is 1663495. This happened like 2-3 times on the testnet before, as testnet is often acting crazy.  I restarted it, it should catch up in a few minutes.

[mocacinno]

Actually I don't need it, as I got the same report from someone else, too. Turns out on the coordinator side the filters on the testnet got stuck at block 1639121. While according to SmartBit the latest block is 1663495. This happened like 2-3 times on the testnet before, as testnet is often acting crazy.  I restarted it, it should catch up in a few minutes.

Perfect 
Let's do some more testing now!
Thanks

[nopara73]

Since you're so responsive, this is the speed the filters are built:

Code:

2020-01-22 13:37:55 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639200.
2020-01-22 13:39:04 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639300.
2020-01-22 13:40:13 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639400.
2020-01-22 13:41:21 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639500.
2020-01-22 13:42:30 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639600.
2020-01-22 13:43:41 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639700.
2020-01-22 13:44:50 INFO        IndexBuilderService (295)       Created filter for block: 1639800.

Also note there'll be a power outage here in 15 minutes, so I probably won't see the results of it for a while.

[layer1gfx]

if you want to contribute your skills and time to improve the wasabi wallet code and documentation check this link to learn how to get involved:
https://docs.wasabiwallet.io/building-wasabi/ContributionChecklist.html

[Lachrymose]

I don't understand why I can't run Wasabi wallet via Turkey's internet connection. Is there anyone who has the similar problem here?

Additional information: I have to select obsf4 bridge to run Tor Browser because Tor is censored in my country.

[layer1gfx]

Max Hillebrand posted a call to participate in the Merchandise Design Contribution Game #76 on telegram some hours ago:

Telegram:

Three questions...

1] want to stack sats?
2] want to contribute to Bitcoin privacy and Wasabi?
3] are You an artist?

then create beautiful designs and earn up to 0.1 bitcoin!

https://github.com/zkSNACKs/Meta/issues/76

Github:

We would like to collaborate with artists to create beautiful merchandise that reflects the values of Bitcoin privacy and the Wasabi brand. In order to reward the peers who craft these, there will be yet another Contribution Game!

The Task

Create a design that is a piece of art, not just the Wasabi logo. It may reflect the topic of privacy in general, Bitcoin and Wasabi specifically. There are no clear guideline, let Your imagination fly.

The art will be displayed on:

    T-Shirts
    Hoodies
    Stickers
    Hats
    Facemasks
    Mugs
    whatever else You come up with

We will then print the design in large quantities, and distribute them to other Wasabikas.

The bounty

zkSNACKs has offered a budget of up to 0.1 bitcoin [yes, 10 MILLION coinjoined satoshis!!]. It will be granted to those who provide the most beautiful designs. The exact amount distributed will depend on the quantity of participating artists, and the quality of their work. The jury is the zkSNACKs team and the Wasabi community in a transparent decision-making process.
Who can participate?

Anyone! Simply send us Your design suggestions on Twitter, Reddit, Telegram or under this issue.

[ABCbits]

I don't understand why I can't run Wasabi wallet via Turkey's internet connection. Is there anyone who has the similar problem here?

Additional information: I have to select obsf4 bridge to run Tor Browser because Tor is censored in my country.

Do you install Tor on your system? Wasabi Wallet will try to use Tor which is installed on your system, before using Tor which included on Wasabi Wallet.

If not, please try install Tor and configure it to use one of obfs4 bridge you know, then try to run Wasabi wallet again.

[Baofeng]

Wasabi Research Club #9 - Anonymity Likes Company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWEoFJnuF0

[mocacinno]

Just a quick question to the OP (or anybody else that knows the answer for that matter).

Why does my gut feeling tells me the minimum amount to participate in coinjoins only seems to go up?

• IIRC, the first time i looked at the wallet, the minimum amount was pretty low (my memory tells me it was like ~0.01, but i could be waaaay of).
• The first time i actually wanted to participate in a coinjoin, the minimum amount rose to ~0.05 (IIRC), while at the same time the price also went waaaay up. Since, at that point, i didn't want to risk 0.05, i used a trusted mixer instead
• The first time i actually participated in a coinjoin, the minimum amount was ~0.09
• At this moment, the minimum amount is ~0.11

In all fairness, i get why you don't want to have 0.001 BTC as minimum amount, you've promoted the coinjoin feature to be very cost-effective, and if you're building giant coinjoin transactions with a huge amount of inputs and outputs that have a value of ~0.001 BTC, you can't say you'll have a fee of 0.003% per anonimity set, and you wouldn't help your enduser nor the blockchain by creating thousands of 0.001-valued unspent outputs.
However, there's a big difference between 0.001 (~$8) and the current ~0.11 (~$850), and the fact that my gut feeling tells me it's just going upwards regardless of the average fee per vbyte or the fiat exchange rate makes me worry what minimum amounts we'll see in the future (i don't think that at this rate it'll take very long before we breach the minimum $1000 equivalent as a minimum amount to participate in a coinjoin).

Could the developers give some extra insight if they plan to make coinjoin more accessible for the broad public (people that don't have 0.11 BTC, or are unwilling to "test" out coinjoining with such a large chunk of money)? I, for one, wouldn't mind paying more than (0.003 * 51)% if that would mean i could participate in a coinjoin with 0.05 BTC instead of 0.11 BTC

I've found discussions on reddit talking about this subject, but i didn't really feel they completely answered my question (for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/WasabiWallet/comments/c2sizh/coinjoin_minimum_of_approximately_1100aud/)

[layer1gfx]

here is some really cool wasabi stuff i just found on the official twitter account: https://twitter.com/WasabiWallet

1. the ultimate cyperpunky setup feat. Bisq, raspibolt and wasabi by Stadicus


 
2. really cool wasabi tshirt designs by andhans

[Wind_FURY]

Who is @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5, also called "nothingmuch" in Twitter? Is he a known Bitcoin developer?

Plus, can anyone ELI5 the quote in bold for the stupid like me.

https://twitter.com/nopara73/status/1243829599575986176

I think it is time to hint that a massive contribution to Bitcoin privacy is upcoming thanks to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5.

Hope we won't find any blockers.

It looks like Chaumian CoinJoins can be generalized in a way that instead of blinding outputs, random credentials get blinded. This could lead to spending exact amounts in coinjoins, maybe removing the minimum denomination and maybe not creating any change in the mix at all.

[layer1gfx]

Who is @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5, also called "nothingmuch" in Twitter? Is he a known Bitcoin developer?

Plus, can anyone ELI5 the quote in bold for the stupid like me.

https://twitter.com/nopara73/status/1243829599575986176

I think it is time to hint that a massive contribution to Bitcoin privacy is upcoming thanks to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5.

Hope we won't find any blockers.

It looks like Chaumian CoinJoins can be generalized in a way that instead of blinding outputs, random credentials get blinded. This could lead to spending exact amounts in coinjoins, maybe removing the minimum denomination and maybe not creating any change in the mix at all.

mmm, ELI5ing that is not too easy ...
but you could maybe try to read this documentation on Github and then maybe come back here to ask some more specific questions?
https://github.com/nopara73/ZeroLink/#ii-chaumian-coinjoin

[Wind_FURY]

Who is @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5, also called "nothingmuch" in Twitter? Is he a known Bitcoin developer?

Plus, can anyone ELI5 the quote in bold for the stupid like me.

https://twitter.com/nopara73/status/1243829599575986176

I think it is time to hint that a massive contribution to Bitcoin privacy is upcoming thanks to @mHaGqnOACyFm0h5.

Hope we won't find any blockers.

It looks like Chaumian CoinJoins can be generalized in a way that instead of blinding outputs, random credentials get blinded. This could lead to spending exact amounts in coinjoins, maybe removing the minimum denomination and maybe not creating any change in the mix at all.

mmm, ELI5ing that is not too easy ...
but you could maybe try to read this documentation on Github and then maybe come back here to ask some more specific questions?
https://github.com/nopara73/ZeroLink/#ii-chaumian-coinjoin

OK, but will that improvement hide the fact, or the "actuality" that the user has CoinJoined his/her coins in Wasabi?

[nopara73]

> OK, but will that improvement hide the fact, or the "actuality" that the user has CoinJoined his/her coins in Wasabi?

No, it won't.

[Wind_FURY]

> OK, but will that improvement hide the fact, or the "actuality" that the user has CoinJoined his/her coins in Wasabi?

No, it won't.

Is there some research, and development being done to achieve "hidden" CoinJoins? That, would be the crowning glory achievement for fungibility in Bitcoin in my opinion.

[nopara73]

There's the P2EP line of research: https://medium.com/@nopara73/pay-to-endpoint-56eb05d3cac6

IMO we need to not disrupt UX for that, which ultimately comes down to waiting for Taproot: https://gist.github.com/NicholasTailor/b075ac92c22923c33eddfa38488719d6

Nevertheless we're also implementing it to Wasabi to be compatible with BTCPay, but I doubt its current state would see significant usage, if any at all: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/pull/3256

[buwaytress]

Just a quick question to the OP (or anybody else that knows the answer for that matter).

Why does my gut feeling tells me the minimum amount to participate in coinjoins only seems to go up?

Sorry to ping this back but I didn't see a response and after catching up after all this while, I'm surprised to see the min has gone up because I can confirm from my memory, the last min I recall was 0.01+

I consider myself a member of the broad public -- with decent technical knowledge of average bitcoin use but not adequate to confidently risk money on testing CJ -- and even 0.01 was a significant barrier.

[nopara73]

There was only a brief period when the software started operating, maybe a month in 2018 when it was 0.01.

[Chikito]

I am a beginner/First time using Wasabi Wallet, I am not sure what wrong here. Last 1-2 Hours, still connecting..



Can i use coin join using tBtc?, I see 0 Btc required. When I am ready to use it?.

[Chikito]

Try to check Logs.txt in Wasabi directory (should be located on /path/to/your/user/.wasabiwallet) and see if there's anything useful.
Have you checked if there are any anti-virus/firewall which block your connection?

I don't use any anti virus. I see two log file TorLogs.tx and logs.txt, I am not sure which one. Also not connected into bitcoin node (off), don't have space to downloading block.

Torlogs.txt

Code:

Apr 11 23:54:10.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 90% (ap_handshake_done): Handshake finished with a relay to build circuits
Apr 11 23:54:10.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 95% (circuit_create): Establishing a Tor circuit
Apr 11 23:54:11.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100% (done): Done
Apr 11 23:55:57.000 [notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for rendezvous desc)
Apr 11 23:58:24.000 [notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:80. Giving up. (waiting for rendezvous desc)

Logs.txt

Code:

2020-04-12 03:21:58 ERROR	WasabiSynchronizer (306)	WalletWasabi.Exceptions.TorSocks5FailureResponseException: Tor SOCKS5 proxy responded with TtlExpired.

I see many time Error like that's on logs.

[ABCbits]

The problem is related with Tor network, usually because you got bad circuit. There are 3 things you could do :
1. Make sure your computer clock time is configured correctly. Tor won't work if your computer clock time is configured incorrectly.
2. Close and reopen Wasabi Wallet or restart your computer.
3. Use another ISP provider.

[Chikito]

The problem is related with Tor network, usually because you got bad circuit. There are 3 things you could do :
1. Make sure your computer clock time is configured correctly. Tor won't work if your computer clock time is configured incorrectly.

You are the man.
True, look like my clock isn't corrected. after fixed it, I got connection and registered coin join at the moment.

my tBtc was mixed. I tried to sending tBtc.



and got payment was sent



tx id: https://tbtc.bitaps.com/23b9db5957043932f8ca6ec0696fac924e9c0b03138b94cd653cbc4a93dfa2c4
2nd tx id: https://tbtc.bitaps.com/6e7aef03ce2c423d70aa77a9572d3e5b5e6c5257d43c1bd44ea234de646a4b06/tb1q5l30kyaft2rg9jmdhu86yffqlsw0cq3g0x0nnk

[ABCbits]

The problem is related with Tor network, usually because you got bad circuit. There are 3 things you could do :
1. Make sure your computer clock time is configured correctly. Tor won't work if your computer clock time is configured incorrectly.

You are the man.
True, look like my clock isn't corrected. after fixed it, I got connection and registered coin join at the moment.

my tBtc was mixed. I tried to sending tBtc.

--snip--

Glad to see the problem solved

But if you were to use BTC (not tBTC/testnet bitcoin) and actually care about privacy, don't share your address/tx id unless it's necessary.

[Wind_FURY]

How do these phishing sites go through Google's security checks? Or doesn't Google have security checks?

I believe anything that is indicated as an "Ad" in Google should never be trusted.

https://twitter.com/wasabiwallet/status/1263042327016284161

ALERT! A google ad exists for a fake Wasabi Wallet site. It looks exactly like our website, but redirects you to a fake.

DO NOT CLICK ON THIS PAGE!
 
Wasabi never asks for your mnemonics, password or wallet file. If you're asked for any of these then you're about to get robbed!

[dkbit98]

Europol Euopean Cybercrime Center released report about Wasabi wallet.
Interesting read for sure, but things are not looking good for Wasabi, as they say 30% of deposits are coming from dark web market.
Hint: reading this article you will also found out how to better use Wasabi wallet  

Original document:
https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2020/06/Europol-Wasabi-Wallet-Report.pdf

Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200606093436/https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2020/06/Europol-Wasabi-Wallet-Report.pdf

[mocacinno]

Europol Euopean Cybercrime Center released report about Wasabi wallet.
Interesting read for sure, but things are not looking good for Wasabi, as they say 30% of deposits are coming from dark web market.
Hint: reading this article you will also found out how to better use Wasabi wallet  

Original document:
https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2020/06/Europol-Wasabi-Wallet-Report.pdf

Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200606093436/https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2020/06/Europol-Wasabi-Wallet-Report.pdf

I've been a wasabi user for a long time, and this report actually makes me even more inclined to use my wasabi wallet even more frequently...
They basically say it doesn't look good for law enforcement, so if they don't know how to handle these transactions, i feel rather confident my funds are properly anonimised.

That being said, i do fear that the attention of law enforcement towards coinjoined transactions might end up in some kind of law that forces exchanges or payment providers to either block these funds or make us go trough even more hoops in order to spend our funds.

[malevolent]

But the interesting part is they mentioned "Dutch FIOD has started promising technical research into behavior and demixing of Wasabi transactions", it's interesting how they achieve that (assuming it's true), would they look for another user behavior,  vulnerabilities in Tor or even vulnerability of the blind signature itself?

My guess is that a lot of users aren't careful with their post-mixing behaviour (many mistakes can be committed here, often unwittingly).

That being said, i do fear that the attention of law enforcement towards coinjoined transactions might end up in some kind of law that forces exchanges or payment providers to either block these funds or make us go trough even more hoops in order to spend our funds.

It's already often the case without relevant legislation if there aren't enough hops between a deposit or a withdrawal. They can also just ask everyone for source of funds.

[mocacinno]

--snip--

It's already often the case without relevant legislation if there aren't enough hops between a deposit or a withdrawal. They can also just ask everyone for source of funds.

Yeah, i've read similar horror stories aswell. Lucky for me i haven't exchanged crypto<->fiat or fiat<->crypto in a long time. I've also heared horror stories about bitpay aswell, so i now try to stay away from them.

To be honest, most of my funds were exchanged legally in 2014-2016,  from online work i did or from sig campaign earnings... I would have a hard time proving the source of my funds (it has moved wallets soooo many times, forks were claimed, p2pkh => nested segwit => segwit, mixed, coinjoined,...) , so i really dread the day they take my own money hostage.

[Karartma1]

In Europe, under AMLD5, if one has to use whatever exchange to go in and out of fiat then expect to be asked for the infamous source of funds.
If we are talking peanuts there shouldn't be many problems but for large sums expect to be scrutinized like hell.
I believe all our privacy tools are good only into the bitcoin world: if we do real p2p btc txs or if we use the LN, for instance. The moment we link that to the fiat world, unfortunately, all those checks are inevitable.
Exchanges do real-time monitoring nowadays and every tx is flagged: they mixed analytics services and chain analysis tools to understand where your btc have originated in the past. If there's no link between your documentation and their analysis, game over.

tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges.

[Wind_FURY]

But the interesting part is they mentioned "Dutch FIOD has started promising technical research into behavior and demixing of Wasabi transactions", it's interesting how they achieve that (assuming it's true), would they look for another user behavior,  vulnerabilities in Tor or even vulnerability of the blind signature itself?

My guess is that a lot of users aren't careful with their post-mixing behaviour (many mistakes can be committed here, often unwittingly).

Most likely, i've seen users who ignore anonymity color (green, yellow or red) or use all inputs at once.

tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges.

Good point. The only alternative is only buy digital coupon or gift card if you want to buy something from specific store.

BISQ.

Or create good/trusting relationships with trustworthy traders in LocalBitcoins, then trade directly. Because the true potential of Bitcoin might only be attained through peer to peer trade/commerce, and the incapability of a centralized third party to censor you.

[Karartma1]

But the interesting part is they mentioned "Dutch FIOD has started promising technical research into behavior and demixing of Wasabi transactions", it's interesting how they achieve that (assuming it's true), would they look for another user behavior,  vulnerabilities in Tor or even vulnerability of the blind signature itself?

My guess is that a lot of users aren't careful with their post-mixing behaviour (many mistakes can be committed here, often unwittingly).

Most likely, i've seen users who ignore anonymity color (green, yellow or red) or use all inputs at once.

tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges.

Good point. The only alternative is only buy digital coupon or gift card if you want to buy something from specific store.

BISQ.

Or create good/trusting relationships with trustworthy traders in LocalBitcoins, then trade directly. Because the true potential of Bitcoin might only be attained through peer to peer trade/commerce, and the incapability of a centralized third party to censor you.

I don't think you get what I am talking about. What if I want to be able to exchange my bitcoin for fiat and I need to exchange large sums? Would you do that on BISQ? You can't because of the very low volumes they have.
Would you do that on LocalBitcoin? You can't unless you want to have to move around with tons of cash (and I bet you wouldn't find such trades).

My point is, for the sake of convenience, people would like to exchange btc for fiat in a bank because in the end we all need to live.
If you have mixed, coinjoined coins and else, very few (none) exchanges will allow you do cash out.

That's the thing: if we are talking peanuts ok, go to bisq or local bitcoin but if you are talking big money forget about that unless you have a provable source of funds.

Again tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges (large sums).

[Wind_FURY]

But the interesting part is they mentioned "Dutch FIOD has started promising technical research into behavior and demixing of Wasabi transactions", it's interesting how they achieve that (assuming it's true), would they look for another user behavior,  vulnerabilities in Tor or even vulnerability of the blind signature itself?

My guess is that a lot of users aren't careful with their post-mixing behaviour (many mistakes can be committed here, often unwittingly).

Most likely, i've seen users who ignore anonymity color (green, yellow or red) or use all inputs at once.

tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges.

Good point. The only alternative is only buy digital coupon or gift card if you want to buy something from specific store.

BISQ.

Or create good/trusting relationships with trustworthy traders in LocalBitcoins, then trade directly. Because the true potential of Bitcoin might only be attained through peer to peer trade/commerce, and the incapability of a centralized third party to censor you.

I don't think you get what I am talking about. What if I want to be able to exchange my bitcoin for fiat and I need to exchange large sums? Would you do that on BISQ? You can't because of the very low volumes they have.
Would you do that on LocalBitcoin? You can't unless you want to have to move around with tons of cash (and I bet you wouldn't find such trades).

My point is, for the sake of convenience, people would like to exchange btc for fiat in a bank because in the end we all need to live.
If you have mixed, coinjoined coins and else, very few (none) exchanges will allow you do cash out.

That's the thing: if we are talking peanuts ok, go to bisq or local bitcoin but if you are talking big money forget about that unless you have a provable source of funds.

Again tl;dr Privacy tools are fantastic, but don't expect them to be useful when you want to cash out from exchanges (large sums).

More than $100,000 large?

Large sums, attempting to cash out through exchanges, and to your bank, would require a high standard of scrutiny, with or without the use of cryptocurrency privacy tools. Your problem is with the banks, not Bitcoin and privacy tools.

[Wind_FURY]

Don't use your Trezor with your Wasabi Wallet. The hardware wallet developers released a firmware update that locks your coins if used with Wasabi.

[joniboini]

You don't have to update the firmware quickly. It's okay to wait a new update where third party apps can work with the latest firmware, including Wasabi.

[nopara73]

FTR this is the PR that implements compatibility with the new Trezor firmware, so in case someone is interested in the progress: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/pull/3793

[coupable]

It's always recommended to check twice the url link to the official site of wasabi wallet, someone did report today a fake copy of the website in the Begginers board.
Link to the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258570
Fake link:

Code:

https://wasabi-wallet.io/

Whois Record for WasabiWallet.io : https://whois.domaintools.com/wasabiwallet.io
Whois Record for the fake link: https://whois.domaintools.com/wasabi-wallet.io
DNStwister report of similar domains: DNStwister report: https://dnstwister.report/search?ed=77617361626977616c6c65742e696f

[habitantezero]

Hello i dont set pasword in wallet0 in wasabi when i created. I can set pasword now? i dont found where.

Thanks.

[bob123]

Hello i dont set pasword in wallet0 in wasabi when i created. I can set pasword now? i dont found where.

No you can not.

The password is not used to encrypt your wallet file, but to encrypt your seed (from which all private keys are derived).
Setting a password now would mean that you receive new private keys and therefore new addresses.

What you can do, is to restore a new wallet using the same mnemonic code and adding the password.
You will have a "fresh" wallet with no balance. Then you can send everything from your "old" wallet to your new wallet.

[habitantezero]

Hello i dont set pasword in wallet0 in wasabi when i created. I can set pasword now? i dont found where.

No you can not.

The password is not used to encrypt your wallet file, but to encrypt your seed (from which all private keys are derived).
Setting a password now would mean that you receive new private keys and therefore new addresses.

What you can do, is to restore a new wallet using the same mnemonic code and adding the password.
You will have a "fresh" wallet with no balance. Then you can send everything from your "old" wallet to your new wallet.

Thanks a lot.

how i can delete a old wallet? in wasabi software i dont found... Maybe if i delete files on my computer?

[habitantezero]

Hello i dont set pasword in wallet0 in wasabi when i created. I can set pasword now? i dont found where.

No you can not.

The password is not used to encrypt your wallet file, but to encrypt your seed (from which all private keys are derived).
Setting a password now would mean that you receive new private keys and therefore new addresses.

What you can do, is to restore a new wallet using the same mnemonic code and adding the password.
You will have a "fresh" wallet with no balance. Then you can send everything from your "old" wallet to your new wallet.

Thanks a lot.

how i can delete a old wallet? in wasabi software i dont found... Maybe if i delete files on my computer?

You could delete the wallet files directly, but there's no need to delete it on first place, unless you want to make your Wasabi Wallet looks tidy.

Sorry but in windows 10 wasabi software i dont found the way to delete one wallet. Is important for me because in the wallet0 i dont set the pasword but i learn i dont whrote the seed neither  so is a wallet useless.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.

[bob123]

Sorry but in windows 10 wasabi software i dont found the way to delete one wallet. Is important for me because in the wallet0 i dont set the pasword but i learn i dont whrote the seed neither  so is a wallet useless.

Wait, did i understand you correctly that you did not wrote down your mnemonic code ?
How were you able to create your 2nd mnemonic with the password then? Or did you create a new one?

Nevertheless, make sure to have a backup of your mnemonic code for every wallet you want to use.


To delete a wallet in windows, navigate to C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\WalletWasabi.
Then there is a file for each wallet: walletname.json.

[habitantezero]

Sorry but in windows 10 wasabi software i dont found the way to delete one wallet. Is important for me because in the wallet0 i dont set the pasword but i learn i dont whrote the seed neither  so is a wallet useless.

Wait, did i understand you correctly that you did not wrote down your mnemonic code ?
How were you able to create your 2nd mnemonic with the password then? Or did you create a new one?

Nevertheless, make sure to have a backup of your mnemonic code for every wallet you want to use.


To delete a wallet in windows, navigate to C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\WalletWasabi.
Then there is a file for each wallet: walletname.json.

Thanks a lot.

[witcher_sense]

Recently, Wasabi Wallet has released an official response to Twitter hack https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/wasabi-response-twitter-hack-bitcoin/ but shortly after that they deleted it from blog page. Archive version can be found here https://archive.is/tBm7g

Who knows the reason why they suddenly changed their minds and chose not to response whatsoever?

I mostly agree with what written in the aforementioned article. We can't blame open software for being open. We can't blame decentralized bitcoin protocol for being decentralized, neutral and permissionless. We can't blame people defending own rights, privacy, no one should ban people from using open software and open protocols. Most people using privacy-focused software such as Wasabi are not criminals, they just claim their rights on privacy and freedom of speech.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

[]

I guess they felt that there's no need to explain it further, they developed it to be use for privacy focused, not to be taken advantage of criminals, in this case the supposedly twitter hacker.

[nopara73]

--snip--

Maybe because their statement could be twisted, then used to attack them? Besides, silence is golden.

This. In a nutshell.

But I can elaborate though: There was some miscommunication internally. Journalists were asking for comments, but releasing articles before we get to respond, so I told the guys that next time try to respond in a more timely manner.
Then someone who's still new thought my intention with that comment was to try to get more media attention out of it as soon as possible, so he wrote and published the article, and by the time I woke up... well, you know the rest.

[Baofeng]

Very weird that a competitor would take this into public, A Statement on two discovered vulnerabilities in Wasabi Wallet.

[bob123]

Very weird that a competitor would take this into public, A Statement on two discovered vulnerabilities in Wasabi Wallet.

This is currently being discussed in a separate topic.

[Wind_FURY]

Plebs may now mix their coins through CoinJoin/Wasabi wallet/Chaincase coordinator, https://pastebin.com/evgcRh9v



Chaincase is also developing an IOS CoinJoin app, I believe with Tor built in, https://chaincase.app/

Bitcoin privacy, and anonymity in your pocket.

[Wind_FURY]

Plebs may now mix their coins through CoinJoin/Wasabi wallet/Chaincase coordinator, https://pastebin.com/evgcRh9v



Chaincase is also developing an IOS CoinJoin app, I believe with Tor built in, https://chaincase.app/

Bitcoin privacy, and anonymity in your pocket.

Aside from my skepticism since it's first time i heard about Chaincase, maximum 6 participant is worrying from privacy perspective.
The privacy could broke easily if majority participant is being stupid (e.g. combine multiple input from different source on a transaction).

Wait for its development, I believe it's currently in beta. Their coordinator is currently online, but their IOS app is to be available maybe in a few more months.

[bob123]

Aside from my skepticism since it's first time i heard about Chaincase, maximum 6 participant is worrying from privacy perspective.
The privacy could broke easily if majority participant is being stupid (e.g. combine multiple input from different source on a transaction).

Indeed. An anonymity set of 6 is ridiculously bad.
Even if no one is trying to break the privacy, it already is bad. And additionally the attacks are quite easy (e.g. majority inputs from the same user).

I'd definitely not recommend to rely on an anonymity set of 6.

[witcher_sense]

Their website doesn't help though, since it doesn't give any info (social media, source code, etc.)

Found some additional information about this wallet on their GutHub:

A non-custodial iOS bitcoin wallet supporting Chaumian CoinJoin.

The main privacy features on the network level:

    Tor-only by default.
    BIP 158 block filters for private light client.

and on the blockchain level:

    Intuitive ZeroLink CoinJoin integration.
    Superb coin selection and labeling.
    Dust attack protections.

special thanks to Wasabi for making this possible

Chaincase is a Xamarin.Forms application built on top of the famed Wasabi Wallet privacy wallet.

It binds to Tor.framework for an anonymous connection to the outside world

This is experimental beta software. Your feedback is greatly appreciated

Source: https://github.com/chaincase-app/chaincase

So, it is essentially a Wasabi fork created for iOS users and allows for CoinJoin mixing between Wasabi users and Chaincase users if they both choose the same coordinator. I was wondering if it is possible for iOS app users to use zkSNACKs as default coordinator. It would be interesting to have an opportunity to mix coins with high anon sets on your iPhone. Crossplatform solutions for transaction obfuscation is what that is going to make bitcoin more fungible. If people of different operating systems and platforms unite and start doing mixing for every  transaction, it will make surveillance companies obsolete.

[Chikito]

My ledger device can't be connected to the Wasabi wallet, I had many times disconnect and connecting USB cable and I was set up my device also, but still, the wallet won't detect my device.

some information:

- ledger nano s
- firmware version 1.5.5
- wasabi wallet version 1.1.12.2

is there I missing something? my ledger just worked fine using electrum and ledger live.

[ABCbits]

My ledger device can't be connected to the Wasabi wallet, I had many times disconnect and connecting USB cable and I was set up my device also, but still, the wallet won't detect my device.

some information:

- ledger nano s
- firmware version 1.5.5
- wasabi wallet version 1.1.12.2

is there I missing something? my ledger just worked fine using electrum and ledger live.

According to patch note (https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/tree/v1.1.12.3), the problem is fixed on Wasabi 1.1.12.3

But if you still face error, you could open Logs.txt to diagnose the problem, it's located on

Code:

~/.walletwasabi/client

[Real-Duke]

It should do again after update to the latest 1.1.12.3
I have just connected my Ledger Nano S and everything works flawless.

[Chikito]

Thanks all, my ledger has detected after updated to 1.1.12.3

I just surprise got a different address, when I checked evidently wasabi use path m/84'/0'/0' by default, while electrum I use before m/84'/1'/0'. I also can't find how to change the path in wasabi.

[Pmalek]

some information:

- ledger nano s
- firmware version 1.5.5

You are using an outdated firmware version for your Ledger Nano S. Since 1.5.5, firmware versions 1.6.0 and 1.6.1 came out. You should probably update your Ledger. Take a look at al the changes that were made in the last two firmware releases:
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010446000-Ledger-Nano-S-firmware-release-notes

- App capacity has improved.
- A new user interface was created that makes it easier to navigate the device.
- A bug that reset the device randomly has been fixed.

[Aaron2020]

almost 24 hours and my confirmation is still not confirmed. i set 400 miner fee....

the problem is i sent this to a mixer and after 24 hours they will delete all data and all my payments will be ignored! so i cant afford to have wasabi take 3 days to send it!!

please advise why my payments are taking forever to confirm

i did 400 MINER FEE. custom fee . and it takes this long for confirmation???

[Pmalek]

@Aaron2020
You broadcasted a transaction with a 400 sat/vByte transaction fee and it's still unconfirmed? I find that hard to believe because the current state of the mempool shows that transactions with 100-120 sat/vByte are likely to confirm in the next block. Let alone 400 sats. And I doubt it was any worse yesterday.

Has the transaction confirmed in the meantime and if not, care to share the transaction hash?

[bob123]

i did 400 MINER FEE. custom fee . and it takes this long for confirmation???

First, you should actually describe what exactly you did.

You did not choose a "400 miner fee".

So.. open your wallet and tell us what exactly you have chosen as your fee. Tell us whether it got broadcasted (is/was the backend connected?).

[kaicrypzen]

Hi

I have a transaction that has been stuck for a couple of weeks because of a low fee. The transaction doesn't have change so I can't use CPFP and since it was built using Wasabi it's not tagged as an RBF so I can't replace the fee and broadcast it using another wallet or service. I've read somewhere that a transaction that stays in a mempool for 3 days gets ejected but it looks like my transaction is broadcasted regularly. I've removed Transactions.dat from Wasabi's Data Folder to have the coins appear back in my wallet and tried double spending them with a higher fee, to myself and to the original address. I tried it with Wasabi, Electrum and broadcasting through blockchain.com, nothing works and I get either an error of double spending or conflict, which was somehow expected.

Any idea on how I can unstuck it?

Thanks

[DaveF]

Can the person receiving it create a CPFP transaction or is it to an exchange / business?
Wasabi does not flag RBF so you can't do that.
There are paid transaction accelerators out there and some free ones that might help.

How low a fee did you use? The fees have dropped below 10/sat b a few times over the last few weeks.

-Dave

[mocacinno]

Hi

I have a transaction that has been stuck for a couple of weeks because of a low fee. The transaction doesn't have change so I can't use CPFP and since it was built using Wasabi it's not tagged as an RBF so I can't replace the fee and broadcast it using another wallet or service. I've read somewhere that a transaction that stays in a mempool for 3 days gets ejected but it looks like my transaction is broadcasted regularly. I've removed Transactions.dat from Wasabi's Data Folder to have the coins appear back in my wallet and tried double spending them with a higher fee, to myself and to the original address. I tried it with Wasabi, Electrum and broadcasting through blockchain.com, nothing works and I get either an error of double spending or conflict, which was somehow expected.

Any idea on how I can unstuck it?

Thanks

The default setting on the reference client is 2 weeks not 3 days (at least, it's 2 weeks in the version i'm running, which is not 0.21.0, but still i'm running a relatively recent version)...
So, if you stop rebroadcasting, most (but not all) nodes should have dropped your transaction after 2 weeks...

Other than that, DaveF already gave your other options: pay a big mining pool (don't entertain offers from newbies that promise to "mine" your transaction) or talk the receiver trough a CPFP.

[kaicrypzen]

Can the person receiving it create a CPFP transaction or is it to an exchange / business?

I could ask for that, so this means they would need to spend the output from the unconfirmed transaction with a higher fee and send it to one of their addresses, right?

There are paid transaction accelerators out there and some free ones that might help.

Yes I've seen some of those but they charge way too much. Do you have some that you could recommend?

How low a fee did you use? The fees have dropped below 10/sat b a few times over the last few weeks.

It was lower than that. At some point I hoped for it to get purged but it didn't, so it's not low enough for it to get purged but not high enough to get confirmed...

The default setting on the reference client is 2 weeks not 3 days (at least, it's 2 weeks in the version i'm running, which is not 0.21.0, but still i'm running a relatively recent version)...

Indeed, I found this https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9312, so it appears 3 days was the old value and now it's 2 weeks.

So, if you stop rebroadcasting, most (but not all) nodes should have dropped your transaction after 2 weeks...

I'm not intentionally rebroadcasting but it seems to be happening, https://live.blockcypher.com displays a received field for transactions and for my transaction it's regularly updated. Do you know how I can know the whereabouts of the rebroadcasts, what triggers them and how many times and when my transaction was rebroadcasted?

[mocacinno]

--snip--

I could ask for that, so this means they would need to spend the output from the unconfirmed transaction with a higher fee and send it to one of their addresses, right?

yes.
I actually wrote a tutorial a while back on how to execute an cpfp as a sender using electrum. For a receiver, it's actually more or less the same... If you point them towards this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285192 they can ask for help in case they don't succeed (depends on which wallet they're using tough... It might require them to export private key(s) from their current wallet and import them into electrum if they want to follow the walktrough... In which case they need to be extra carefull not to compromise their keys)

Yes I've seen some of those but they charge way too much. Do you have some that you could recommend?

I've seen good things from viabtc... They have a free and a payed accelerator service, and they're legit... They own a pretty big pool, so they're able to deliver what they promise

It was lower than that. At some point I hoped for it to get purged but it didn't, so it's not low enough for it to get purged but not high enough to get confirmed...

Pruning happens if the limit of the mempool is over the limit set by the node operator OR if the unconfirmed transaction is older than x hours (default 2 weeks). So it should be pruned from most mempools in 2 weeks no matter what the feerate was

I'm not intentionally rebroadcasting but it seems to be happening, https://live.blockcypher.com displays a received field for transactions and for my transaction it's regularly updated. Do you know how I can know the whereabouts of the rebroadcasts, what triggers them and how many times and when my transaction was rebroadcasted?

To be honest, i have no idear if wasabi automatically rebroadcasts transactions... Maybe you can restore your wasabi wallet from seed by creating a new wallet but re-using the same seed... Not reopening the original wallet untill the transaction has been dropped.
It's also possible you keep rebroadcasting the transaction by your efforts to fix the issue tough... For example: sometimes people start using those "free" rebroadcasting websites because they think it'll fix their problem, but all those sites do is fetch the raw transaction and rebroadcast it, making it harder to double spend or to require more time to wait untill the transaction dissapears from most mempools.

[kaicrypzen]

I could ask for that, so this means they would need to spend the output from the unconfirmed transaction with a higher fee and send it to one of their addresses, right?

yes.
I actually wrote a tutorial a while back on how to execute an cpfp as a sender using electrum. For a receiver, it's actually more or less the same... If you point them towards this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285192 they can ask for help in case they don't succeed (depends on which wallet they're using tough... It might require them to export private key(s) from their current wallet and import them into electrum if they want to follow the walktrough... In which case they need to be extra carefull not to compromise their keys)

Great thanks, I'll refer them to that if needed.

Yes I've seen some of those but they charge way too much. Do you have some that you could recommend?

I've seen good things from viabtc... They have a free and a payed accelerator service, and they're legit... They own a pretty big pool, so they're able to deliver what they promise

Yes I know about their free service but it requires a minimum fee which my transaction doesn't have. So I guess I'll have to use their paid service if I don't succeed in getting the receiver to perform a CPFP. Thanks.

Pruning happens if the limit of the mempool is over the limit set by the node operator OR if the unconfirmed transaction is older than x hours (default 2 weeks). So it should be pruned from most mempools in 2 weeks no matter what the feerate was

Provided it's not rebroadcasted...

To be honest, i have no idear if wasabi automatically rebroadcasts transactions... Maybe you can restore your wasabi wallet from seed by creating a new wallet but re-using the same seed... Not reopening the original wallet untill the transaction has been dropped.
It's also possible you keep rebroadcasting the transaction by your efforts to fix the issue tough... For example: sometimes people start using those "free" rebroadcasting websites because they think it'll fix their problem, but all those sites do is fetch the raw transaction and rebroadcast it, making it harder to double spend or to require more time to wait untill the transaction dissapears from most mempools.

Yes that's why I didn't use those "free" accelerators. The only transactions I intentionally broadcasted were my double spending attempts. However I haven't kept my wallet shut down for 2 weeks so either it might be rebroadcasting in the background or some other service which I have no control over is doing it...

[dkbit98]

Please update Wasabi wallet to latest version v1.1.12.8 if you want to  avoid compatibility issue especially connected with Trezor Model T hardware wallet that has latest firmware v2.3.5.
Wasabi devs fixed this and few other bugs and minor issues with recovery words and tor, and you can read more about it in github release notes:
https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/releases