Innosilicon Terminator 3

[philipma1957]

Phil did they ship it today?

No. So six days late. Most likely Monday will be the earliest possible so I lose more then 100 usd at best.

Today is 8 days late  which is 8 x 50 = 400 x 0.00002272 = 0.009088 btc which is 95 dollars at current prices

So for this unit  I paid:

full trump tax
a 3% paypal charge
shipping
unit price
full total was = 2587.74

mining loss =    95.00

just about     2683.00 usd.

paid for this on June 23rd  so it is on order for 7+31+31+8 = 77 days

at best it ships tomorrow  (longshot ?)

A bad deal for me.

They do happen.  Paypal would let me bail on this due to late shipping. I do not want to do this to minefarmbuy, but I may have to as the shipping delay is getting costly.

Since it is yet to ship  and the value of the gear has dropped  I would argue the trump tax is more then it should be as the price is lower  then  they will list it at. Realistically the delay caused a drop in value. Which they won't reflect.

50th gear pulls 60 watts  a th is not that valuable.

This is the peril of preorders.
This unit  is the longest wait I have had of anything I purchased since an m10 back in august of 2018.

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[Biffa]

Looks like orders are shipping now

[philipma1957]

Looks like orders are shipping now

yeah  they saw bitmain's sale today and decided to ship.

So I have  1 t53  coming I hope by friday
I have 4 s9's   coming by the 30th
I have 2 t17e's coming  by nov 10th

this will be 220th  added to my 900th

[minefarmbuy]

Yea, PSU issues or not better transparency is needed when delays happen. We've decided to refund our commission on delayed 50T units, which is the best we can offer given our service model. :/

[Philipma1957cellphone]

that is a classy move. I really found it interesting it ships on the day bitmain sold the newer gear.

[minefarmbuy]

We're still waiting notice for shipping. It's just a mess on our end at this point with emails back and fourth to them and everyone. At least buyers know we aren't holding units since they're dropped directly from manufacture.

I'm trying to sweeten the pot more but we're soo lean there's really zero margin for our service.   

[Biffa]

Don't be so Jaded phil.

They shipped 6 days ago on Sept 3rd. Which was 3 days before the bitmain announcement

[philipma1957]

Not my gear. Minefarmbuy said no shipping notice as of today. Also true of other single unit buyers.

Honestly they did me a favor. I purchased two t17e units today. I was going to buy two t3 53 for oct delivery as soon as I got my t50.  So their delay lost them a sale of of two t3 53 units.

I am sure many other buyers of the t50 wanted to order t53 pieces and waited for the t50 to show.

Then bitmain came out with the t17e 53 th for 1665 clearly much better then the Inno t53.

So the delay from Inno means I will get the bitmain and not the t53.

[Biffa]

Not my gear. Minefarmbuy said no shipping notice as of today. Also true of other single unit buyers.

Honestly they did me a favor. I purchased two t17e units today. I was going to buy two t3 53 for oct delivery as soon as I got my t50.  So their delay lost them a sale of of two t3 53 units.

I am sure many other buyers of the t50 wanted to order t53 pieces and waited for the t50 to show.

Then bitmain came out with the t17e 53 th for 1665 clearly much better then the Inno t53.

So the delay from Inno means I will get the bitmain and not the t53.

Apologies I thought you were confirming yours had shipped when you responded to my earlier post with "yeah they saw bitmain's sale today and decided to ship"

Tbh I got a shipping email notification on the 9th but the tracking shows it shipped on the 3rd so they took their sweet time letting customers know. And then they forgot to put the country of origin on the commercial invoice so it's been stuck in customs most of that time.

You did well getting some T17e for that price. I only kept the order for the 50TH innos because I got them as replacements for the T40s so only paid $1480 for them. But then they are about 3 weeks late.

[minefarmbuy]

Yea, I would be hard pressed to order while the burn is still fresh. Hopefully we get an update soon on shipping. Sorry for the delay Philip.

[MBible]

I just received my 50T today (shipped on August 31st).
Seems like huge (i mean HUGE) hashrate difference. In minus, of course.
I will get back once i'll finish testing.

[philipma1957]

So it does not do 50T  I suspect it will do more like 45T  and that if you set to Balance+  more like 42t

I also think best settings for warmer rooms 80f or 27c  need to be Balance + or Balance ++

If you do factory settings in a warm room it will not work well.

I think I may have gotten a ship notice for the gear.  From fedex

FROM

Chongqing City, CN CN

TO

Howell, NJ US

MANAGE DELIVERY Manage Delivery. Select to review possible delivery options, below. Clickable.

does the chinese city above look familiar?

some one is shipping gear to me from there.

It could be  a HP laptop  or the t50.

[Searing]

... So for this unit  I paid:

full trump tax
a 3% paypal charge
shipping
unit price
full total was = 2587.74...

I see you have a Paypal charge? What Mnfg takes PayPal now?

I suppose this PayPal charge could be just for shipping of the mess of units?

Would be nice to PayPal stuff again like in 2013.

Curious in case the 'end of days' USA tariff ever goes away.

later

brad

[philipma1957]

Minefarmbuy and blokforge take PayPal.

I buy from them at times.

I have also paid offordscott a broker with PayPal.

There are a few other companies that will let me use PayPal.

More due to my status on bitcointalk. Ie my trust is very good.

I actually did get tracking for both the hp laptop and for the t3-50

the t3-50 is due this thursday.

[minefarmbuy]

They said it had already had shipped but looks like fresh tracking.

[philipma1957]

yeah my tracking is fresh it shipped on sept 11 hong kong time or sept 10 new jersey time.

it is due on thurs the 12th

it is in Cincinnati  with this notice:

Further Detail:
Further clearance processing is required.
Next Step:
A DHL representative shall attempt to contact importer or shipper if any further information is required to complete the entry. Customer should contact DHL Customer Service if not reached by DHL

I suspect that has to do with fees/tariffs  which minefarmbuy will handle.

[Biffa]

Mine got stuck in Canada customs because there was no commercial invoice and no Certificate or origin. Might wanna check shoot them an email to get that moving just in case.

[philipma1957]

I did this all with minefarmbuy   so he is supposed to handle all customs tariffs. I paid quite a bit for that 27 or 28% extra IIRC.

I wanted to do at least one purchased through him with it fully handled on his end.

We need more gear in clifton  at least 400th if it is all s17 pro gear.  Although we may mix  with s9 and s17 pro

I can do the s9 direct with no trump tax if I order 2 or 3 units.

minefarmbuy may do the s17 pros.  we will see.

Unfortunately for innosilicon the late shipping of the t3 50  caused us to not order t3 53 for oct delivery.

companies need to know late shipping costs them.

right now  the t17e and the t17  are both better deals then the inno t3 53  the late shipping on their part on a lot of the gear  cost them business.

BTW  inno made do effort to adjust for the delayed gear.  minefarmbuy the reseller is going to reduce the commission to 0% to make up for the delay.

So I am quite a bit turned off by the delay.

[minefarmbuy]

Philip the $2.5k price doesn't include duties. Essentially its the unit price with shipping with paypal and our commission. Did you need help with customs? we can set that up.

It also looks like you selected a paid shipping option when this was manufacturer direct, which we'll credit as well. If you like we can set up customs clearance using your surplus funds (shipping and commission refund), but there will be a reminder balance likely to collect. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


edit: Looks like a bit in credit so it should cover a fair amount of the duties/tariff. DM me on telegram and we'll talk through it when you have time. I'm personally running your final invoice now. Link is on site.

[philipma1957]

Philip the $2.5k price doesn't include duties. Essentially its the unit price with shipping with paypal and our commission. Did you need help with customs? we can set that up.

It also looks like you selected a paid shipping option when this was manufacturer direct, which we'll credit as well. If you like we can set up customs clearance using your surplus funds (shipping and commission refund), but there will be a reminder balance likely to collect. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


edit: Looks like a bit in credit so it should cover a fair amount of the duties/tariff. DM me on telegram and we'll talk through it when you have time. I'm personally running your final invoice now. Link is on site.

I just was texted a bill for 338.22  for duties I paid it in full before the edit.

sending you a pm here to get telegram dm from you.