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November 11, 2018, 08:17:35 PM
Last edit: November 11, 2018, 09:23:11 PM by LoyceV
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Wow, good guys with guns who are also drinking. What could possibly go wrong?  I guess drunk vigilante justice is better than drunk driving.  Cheesy

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Cool story. Then how about you stay where you live and I wont care about your local laws, and you give me the same courtesy?
OgNasty's post was posted just 5 posts (give or take 14 seconds) after bones261's post. Therefore, I think OgNasty's reply was a response to this post instead:
This sort of thing doesn't happen where I live. No one is allowed to carry guns on them here let alone own military hardware.  I would be willing to bet there is a lot more firearm homicides in your area than mine  Grin
(correct me if I'm wrong here, I can't be sure)

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November 11, 2018, 08:26:04 PM
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Good luck finding a moderator that doesn't have political opinions and is willing to moderate the shithole that is P&S.

Thank you. I also wish you good luck with defending a biased moderator because they moderate based on your shared beliefs. I’m sure that won’t backfire down the line at all.  Cheesy

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November 11, 2018, 09:07:27 PM
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Hmm OK, thanks for the correction!

To clarify, this would be considered close enough to on-topic to the discussion of "13 Dead at mass shooting in California Bar"?

Wow, good guys with guns who are also drinking. What could possibly go wrong?  I guess drunk vigilante justice is better than drunk driving.  Cheesy

Not trying to stir the pot here, just wanting to know for my own understanding of what is and is not considered on/off topic.
 

Side note: The accidental typo by LoyceV at least adds some humor to the thread..
OgNasty's post was posted just 5 posts (give or take 14 seconds) after boner261's post.

LOL

And yes, that post can be considered off topic but at least it mentions guns etc. Og's post has nothing on the topic. So if the line has to be drawn somewhere it's quite reasonable to draw it there.


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November 11, 2018, 09:10:22 PM
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Hmm OK, thanks for the correction!

To clarify, this would be considered close enough to on-topic to the discussion of "13 Dead at mass shooting in California Bar"?

Wow, good guys with guns who are also drinking. What could possibly go wrong?  I guess drunk vigilante justice is better than drunk driving.  Cheesy

Not trying to stir the pot here, just wanting to know for my own understanding of what is and is not considered on/off topic.
 

Side note: The accidental typo by LoyceV at least adds some humor to the thread..
OgNasty's post was posted just 5 posts (give or take 14 seconds) after boner261's post.

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November 11, 2018, 09:29:34 PM
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You are focusing on the wrong topic. I see now that is because Flying Hellfish named this thread, not me. I’ve updated it to accurately reflect the correct discussion.

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November 11, 2018, 09:43:28 PM
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Well IMHO, a good moderator for a section should at least have an interest in the main topic. I'm not certain that it is possible to find another candidate that is interested in P&S, yet is also totally unbiased. Perhaps a better solution is to add an additional moderator to the P&S section. Perhaps someone with an perspective that leans more to the right.
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November 11, 2018, 09:51:33 PM
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You are focusing on the wrong topic.

Was wondering how long it would take Flying Hellfish to abuse his moderator privileges to censor comments he disagrees with. Was easier than I thought to make it happen.

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November 11, 2018, 10:13:55 PM
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Eh, politics.

From what is presented in this thread and some other threads in reputation, FH is doing his job just fine.

Perhaps theymos should change some rules there and moderator should remove spam only. Off topic replies, trolling and personal attacks are suitable for discussion about politics, as it is crucial part of politics.

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November 12, 2018, 12:01:55 AM
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You are focusing on the wrong topic.

Was wondering how long it would take Flying Hellfish to abuse his moderator privileges to censor comments he disagrees with. Was easier than I thought to make it happen.

Do you even read what you write?

Do you understand English or do I need to translate to French for you?

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November 12, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Last edit: November 12, 2018, 12:50:04 AM by theymos
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Nobody's unbiased, and anyone who pretends to be is lying to either you or to themselves. The idea reminds me of the bureaucrats who run government, appearing to be neutral while actually pushing strongly for an agenda, especially tending to promote the expansion of bureaucracy as well as the continuation of the status quo. (This largely-invisible but very powerful political force is sometimes what people mean when they use the term "deep state".) Fair moderation requires that you understand yourself well enough to know what your biases actually are, and then take conscious action to avoid letting them cloud your judgement. One's skill at doing this is totally independent of political beliefs: a radical might be able to do it, and a centrist might not.

It was incorrect for OgNasty's post in that thread about the California shooting to be deleted; I restored it. I read that post as not an ad hominem; its main point seemed to be expressing a preference for localism vis-à-vis gun control, and gun control is clearly on-topic in that thread. But my impression is that Flying Hellfish has been moderating fairly on the whole. Mistakes happen.

While Flying Hellfish is pretty far left, I am an anarcho-capitalist; I view his political beliefs as ~80% insane. Having two diametrically opposed viewpoints here is a good combination which will hopefully prevent the formation of an echo chamber for one viewpoint or another. I think that people in the last several years have become largely unable to face opposing viewpoints, which isn't good.

Mods can delete whatever they want in their self-moderated threads, just like anyone else.

Perhaps theymos should change some rules there and moderator should remove spam only. Off topic replies, trolling and personal attacks are suitable for discussion about politics, as it is crucial part of politics.

It'd be OK IMO for topic-starters to express a preference for more or less moderation. But in general, on-topicness is especially important in political discussions so that one side doesn't filibuster the other with nonsense. I'm also concerned with off-topic thought-terminating clichés in political discussions (from all sides).

This stuff is all subjective. There's no such thing as perfect moderation, since everyone has a different idea of what perfection would be. You just do the best you can.

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November 12, 2018, 12:59:29 AM
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I appreciate the comments theymos. I feel like my opinion has been heard and my point made. Thank you.

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