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November 11, 2018, 10:17:56 AM
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And I had a sad experience with one project, over a bounty and there was no information about KYC, I did not go and have not looked in a month how it all goes, but then it turned out that they were doing a form for KYC, and those who did not, he lost all tokens.

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November 11, 2018, 10:22:39 AM
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There are a lot of projects that need an KYC of course it is a good idea also to protect their project so that they will know who's dealing with them.But there are some projects that starting from beginning they don't have an KYC required but when it come to the time that they need to distribute the stakes of bounty hunters they are asking for KYC,if the bounty hunter can not comply this where is their stake goes?if the project require an KYC they must announce it from the beginning not in distribution time.


this could be a new policy or a deliberate reason to make it difficult for hunter bounties. of course there are many factors that make it.
we all know that we carry it almost entirely ico is currently verifying KYC with all legal matters and manipulation

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November 11, 2018, 10:24:19 AM
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There are a lot of projects that need an KYC of course it is a good idea also to protect their project so that they will know who's dealing with them.But there are some projects that starting from beginning they don't have an KYC required but when it come to the time that they need to distribute the stakes of bounty hunters they are asking for KYC,if the bounty hunter can not comply this where is their stake goes?if the project require an KYC they must announce it from the beginning not in distribution time.

however you have to do KYC to be able to get tokens from the campaigns you follow. already the terms and policies can change according to the plan, including the last seconds.
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November 11, 2018, 10:30:17 AM
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Actually I do not like doing KYC but if I like the project I will comply on doing it.

The same here, I don't like doing this KYC, but if I am really interested in this project then I would do it. But I expect also from this project that they do KYD, Know Your Developers, many really trustworthy projects do that last time, I think it's fair!

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November 11, 2018, 10:37:59 AM
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There are a lot of projects that need an KYC of course it is a good idea also to protect their project so that they will know who's dealing with them.But there are some projects that starting from beginning they don't have an KYC required but when it come to the time that they need to distribute the stakes of bounty hunters they are asking for KYC,if the bounty hunter can not comply this where is their stake goes?if the project require an KYC they must announce it from the beginning not in distribution time.

       That is very true man and I think there is no problem if it is included in rules so that we can decide if we want to join or not since there's so many ICO which is not requires KYC and still they are successful and they distributed tokens with no too much hassles.
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November 11, 2018, 10:47:10 AM
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I advice to be far away from those campaign requiring kyc documents, maybe if 100% sure that project is well organized by known people in each country. But if just no good real background don't be careless giving your private information
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November 11, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
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This topic has already been discussed many times, but unfortunately , unscrupulous projects still violate the KYC rules. I wouldn't pass the verification in this case, because serious projects wouldn't change the rules at the end, and frivolous projects don't interest me much.

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November 11, 2018, 10:50:47 AM
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I am also wondering why some of the bounties or i should say that most of the bounties are only asking for KYC after ICO and not from the beginning of the bounty. Maybr that depends on the team of the platform and we cant blame BM for not announcing that immediately since they also rely all the information needed from the team. I guess we dont have a choice but to follow right?

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November 11, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
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Yes I've complained a lot about disappointing bounty managers that force kyc on us at the end of a bounty ,for example ,desico ,before I started desico bounty I personally asked in the bounty channel on telegram and the answer was ' no KYC is required to get paid' and now its a must to get paid ,I think its so unfair either ways I've learnt my lessons

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November 11, 2018, 10:54:15 AM
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Any initiative will have its good side and bad side, this also apply to KYC/AML. KYC shows some legality of a project and is  less riskier to invest in a project that requires KYC. Though to some extent, KYC defeat the goal of anonymous decentralized transactions but it is also good for the industry.

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November 11, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
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In the rules of most bounty, there is a rule "We reserve the right to adjust the conditions of the bounty campaign." So the bounty hunter should prepare KYC for all the projects they join. Unless they are cheaters with multiple accounts.
That you carefully read the conditions for joining the campaign of generosity ICO.

As a lawyer, I can say that the conditions for joining the ICO generosity campaign are in fact one of the types of contracts with so-called implicit, that is, silent actions. The fact that we further fill out their form of accession means that we have agreed to their terms of the contract.

In any contract there are so-called essential terms of the contract, which must always be specified. If at least one of them is not specified, the agreement on the decision of the court may be invalidated. The contract price, that is, the amount payable to bounty hunters, is one of the essential conditions of the contract and must be clearly stated. If it can change, it should be indicated in what cases and by how much. Otherwise, such a contract will be invalid. If in the terms of accession it is only generally indicated that any conditions may be changed, then such a piece of paper cannot be recognized as a contract and will in any case be illegal.

If the contract is made and executed, one of the parties is not entitled to declare additional substantial payment terms that were not previously agreed

In this case, this should be considered an ordinary fraud, and the ICO team should bear the material, and in the case of the intention of such actions, the criminal liability for fraud, that is, the seizure of another's property by deception or abuse of trust.
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November 11, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
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Do you read their rules before joining their campaign? Almost it has: "Team project and bounty managers reserve the right to change the rules"

Even changing percentage of allocation for each bounty section. So, if they will distribute rewards afer doing KYC, I think it's ok. It's only problem with cheaters.
they are using that strategy because when you failed to comply it the stake will be going to them,i am agree with kyc but in the beginning they must announce it and not by the end.they have the rights to change the rules its true but they take advantage for sometimes.
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November 11, 2018, 11:27:37 AM
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There are a lot of projects that need an KYC of course it is a good idea also to protect their project so that they will know who's dealing with them.But there are some projects that starting from beginning they don't have an KYC required but when it come to the time that they need to distribute the stakes of bounty hunters they are asking for KYC,if the bounty hunter can not comply this where is their stake goes?if the project require an KYC they must announce it from the beginning not in distribution time.

Yes, I also agree that KYC must be announced at the beginning of the campaign. Not just because of your reason but also because there are people that are not comfortable sharing their information with other people just for stakes. I think it is unfair that some projects announce KYC in the end of the campaign. And I don't think they don't give the tokens if they don't comply with the requirements.

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November 11, 2018, 12:02:20 PM
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For some reason now the KYC system is very crowded, there are some people who use and there are used as an excuse so that they do not pay hunter shares. this is unexpectedly all can indeed be made into action manipulation. it is indeed difficult to find honest people now
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November 11, 2018, 12:09:45 PM
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I really agree with that. Actually, it is only to ensure that the participants do not cheat and are very fair in distribution. the problem of where to bet when someone doesn't get a part because they can't do KYC usually stakes will be accumulated again

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November 11, 2018, 12:12:25 PM
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  Grin The fact is that I clearly relate to projects with KYC. The point is not that I am afraid to show who I am. The fact is that I do not want to send my data to the scammers.
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November 11, 2018, 12:15:22 PM
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Yeah, I found some bounties like this, they annouce regarding KYV requirement after the bounty has ended not on the beginning of campaign. I know that the bounty team just make bounty hunter hard to deal with it. Of course that coin/token from bounty participate didn't distribute and it will be send to their address, then they just need to stealth document.

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November 11, 2018, 12:25:01 PM
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I'm also feel sick on the rules that there will be no KYC at the beginning of the campaign. That makes me feel worried if my data will be used for doing something bad.
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November 11, 2018, 12:26:47 PM
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There are a lot of projects that need an KYC of course it is a good idea also to protect their project so that they will know who's dealing with them.But there are some projects that starting from beginning they don't have an KYC required but when it come to the time that they need to distribute the stakes of bounty hunters they are asking for KYC,if the bounty hunter can not comply this where is their stake goes?if the project require an KYC they must announce it from the beginning not in distribution time.

       KYC cannot help the project to be successful but rather than it can make doubt to the investor since this will make a quarrel  between ICO team and bounty hunters in the telegram during distribution of tokens .

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November 11, 2018, 12:27:57 PM
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The good projects provide KYC  from the start of their projects they must announce it, KYC is much secured and to avoid double accounts who wants to take advantage for this forum so i think if there is kyc this is good and not a scam...

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