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March 12, 2014, 06:23:47 PM
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You lost me.

I was about to buy 5 BTC worth until I clicked on the site and read

"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academics for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itself is US military invention.  

Not buying it when the author starts with dishonest propaganda.

Goodbye

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March 12, 2014, 06:28:05 PM
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You lost me.

I was about to buy 5 BTC worth until I clicked on the site and read

"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention. 

Not buying it when the author starts with dishonest propaganda.

Goodbye

k bye, damn you will be missed as an investor, I don't know how Heavy coin will do without you, please reconsider? please please please.
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March 12, 2014, 06:28:44 PM
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"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

BTW   Heavycoin itself used SHA-256 as one of its four cryptographic hash functions as it works by combining "4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaving these bits into a combined 256-bit hash"

thus it does not at all say SHA-256 is bad.  
if u don't like this cautious attitude towards SHA-256 you have all the rights in the world not to care about HVC Wink
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March 12, 2014, 06:31:57 PM
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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.
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March 12, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
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"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

This is not what the site said. He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256. He even mentioned Snowden. This is dishonest propaganda and it tells me the people involved in heavycoin  are dishonest.

I don't trust them.

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March 12, 2014, 06:52:57 PM
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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.

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March 12, 2014, 07:08:11 PM
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how guaranteed is this coin to remain CPU only. Every coin that has claimed that so far has proven false and become GPU mineable.

Hi there Wh1teKn1ght, good and important question!! See this:

There are many GPU and ASIC resistant crypto-currencies, but they have all been broken and eventually mined by GPUs. Some tried to make mining memory-hard (Scrypt, Litecoin, Yacoin, Memorycoin). Others tried to increase the implementation complexity of the cryptographic hash functions (Quark, et al). However, at the end of the day, all of these efforts were overcome because GPU and ASIC miners are always able to increase their fast access memory capacity and also the complexity of their implementations. (...)

Heavycoin is different because it is designed from its core to be permanently CPU-only. Heavycoin introduces the HEFTY1 cryptographic hash function in order to thwart GPU and ASIC miners by breaking out of the SIMD paradigm. The machine instructions that comprise HEFTY1 vary depending on input data. That is, the particular instructions that are executed will not be the same for each hash guess. Thus, it impossible for a GPU or ASIC to have an advantage over a CPU.

More info: http://heavycoin.github.io/about.html#cpu-only



"Bitcoin and other networks rely only on SHA-256, which was developed by the NSA. The Snowden revolations bring into question the security of SHA-256 and, thus, the true government independence of Bitcoin."

This is absolutely dishonest as  SHA-256 is open source known algorithm studied by independent academic word for a decade now. It's irrelevant who was original developer. If we are going to play that game, then
Keccak was approved by NIST  (which is also US govt agency).  Tor was originally developed by US military.  Even the Internet itselfis US military invention.

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

This is not what the site said. He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256. He even mentioned Snowden. This is dishonest propaganda and it tells me the people involved in heavycoin  are dishonest.

I don't trust them.

"He dishonestly implied that US govt secretly controls bitcoin as it uses SHA256"
:: I don't see how you read that from the quoted sentence.

U do not have to trust them, all u need is to read their code. that's it. being critical is a very good thing.

& please see my full quote:

Perhaps u  misunderstand this statement which is about the fact that ONE SINGLE cryptographic hashfunction can potentially be broken and with it the entire security of the blockchain would be broken

BTW   Heavycoin itself used SHA-256 as one of its four cryptographic hash functions as it works by combining "4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaving these bits into a combined 256-bit hash"

thus it does not at all say SHA-256 is bad.  
if u don't like this cautious attitude towards SHA-256 you have all the rights in the world not to care about HVC Wink
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March 12, 2014, 07:21:41 PM
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HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool is OPEN!
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php

Pool is compatible with the stratum miners provided by 1GH

Consider the pool in beta mode for now but trust us it should work, we only have little hash power.

Pool is working well, we mined many blocks on test-net, come help find our first main-net block.

We are giving away 2 ltc for the first block finder and 1 ltc for the next two blocks!
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March 12, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
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Ok guys I've been playing with it some more and I'm really starting to like it.




HEAVY TIPS (Or logo contest bounty Smiley : HQp6EyHL9G9nCddBqdKeZj2xkA4Z81CcK8


EDIT: Just want to note that it's also quite resizeable -

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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March 12, 2014, 08:48:59 PM
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i tried 1ghminer but the miner says acess denied  Undecided
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March 12, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
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i tried 1ghminer but the miner says acess denied  Undecided

i was mining there a few minutes ago with no problem. Moved over to heavycoinpool.

what is does your batch file have in it?

fyi - here is the how-to i wrote up
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March 12, 2014, 08:59:52 PM
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i tried 1ghminer but the miner says acess denied  Undecided

more info cuz it works fine for me here. check ur batchfile.
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March 12, 2014, 09:04:53 PM
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guys im getting 12kh/s per thread at heavypool when i was getting 17kh/s at 1gh, any idea why?
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March 12, 2014, 09:06:31 PM
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i did the same batch file but still access denied then the minerd.exe is dissapear after the batch file exits
im using windows from 1gh miner
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March 12, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
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http://hvc.1gh.com/user?wallet=HLYJuwsSoZX1oSetUjHah4DeRUxVDZe5Bn Smiley First coin I have ever mined, its been a great experience. Just hope the value rises now to make it a profitable experience haha Smiley
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March 12, 2014, 09:20:55 PM
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HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool is OPEN!
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php

Pool is compatible with the stratum miners provided by 1GH

Consider the pool in beta mode for now but trust us it should work, we only have little hash power.

Pool is working well, we mined many blocks on test-net, come help find our first main-net block.

We are giving away 2 ltc for the first block finder and 1 ltc for the next two blocks!

We have found our first block!!! Come join the party!!!


HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php
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March 12, 2014, 09:21:49 PM
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http://hvc.1gh.com/user?wallet=HLYJuwsSoZX1oSetUjHah4DeRUxVDZe5Bn Smiley First coin I have ever mined, its been a great experience. Just hope the value rises now to make it a profitable experience haha Smiley

Have fun Wink
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March 12, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
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HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool is OPEN!
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php

Pool is compatible with the stratum miners provided by 1GH

Consider the pool in beta mode for now but trust us it should work, we only have little hash power.

Pool is working well, we mined many blocks on test-net, come help find our first main-net block.

We are giving away 2 ltc for the first block finder and 1 ltc for the next two blocks!

We have found our first block!!! Come join the party!!!


HeavyCoin @ Nonce-Pool
http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/index.php

Working nice at the moment, guys. Actually I improved slightly my hashrate switching to this pool. Staying.
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March 12, 2014, 09:34:51 PM
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Bounties


  • 30,000 HVC - professional grade commercial art and logos (specific guidelines, logo competition)





hvc: HHtz6EajeUrzYHsZhGRZJqMTzkFbTTKVA1
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March 12, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
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Ok guys I've been playing with it some more and I'm really starting to like it.



HEAVY TIPS (Or logo contest bounty Smiley : HQp6EyHL9G9nCddBqdKeZj2xkA4Z81CcK8

EDIT: Just want to note that it's also quite resizeable - http://i.imgur.com/THG0CUs.png

Quite heavy, good job. the only logo besides the "swastika-like" one that was posted in the thread earlier, that I actually like. (no offense to the others, excuse me!)

I still also like the original a lot because of its simplicity, just easy to recognize


BTW I think it would be better to have a logo proposal thread, I personally don't like seeing so many logos spammed in this thread so much...
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