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March 13, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
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The only reason to run a 32bit Linux kernel is if your CPU does not support x86-64 instruction set.
If it doesn't, it must be ten years old, and therefore it's not worth wasting electricity running some damn miners, BUY the coins.

I was running VMware on my laptop to try to get  some kind of Linux miner working whilst waiting on the heavycoinpool Windows miner, and unfortunately my version of VMware workstation does not like 64 bit for some reason, even though my host OS is 64 bit.  The laptop is only a year old.

Did you enable VT-x (virtualization) support in BIOS?


I didn't change anything on my host OS, I will change my BIOS and see if I can get the 64 bit version working, out of interest, is there a 32 bit Linux miner out there pre-compiled?
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March 13, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
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does anyone have any good ideas on how to get my passcode back I have seemingly lost it, and I need some advice.

Which passcode?


the one you enter to encrypt your wallet.

 Sad

Try to remember or find it. There is no other way around, if your wallet is encrypted and you don't have the password, you lose its contents. Sorry.

That's what I figured from what I read online. and there are no tools yet because its to new. thanks.

There's hardly a "tool" to crack crypto wallet passwords if they were strong enough. There's services like http://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/ that can run a script against your wallet file trying permutations or similar guesses given some hints about the password you used, but nothing else that I know of.

finally figured it out after throwing 100 passwords I have at it.

Well done, bet that was a relief.  Keep it safe now. Smiley
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March 13, 2014, 03:32:30 PM
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man price is dropping  Cry

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March 13, 2014, 03:34:06 PM
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ah you already fixed it, well done Smiley
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March 13, 2014, 03:36:08 PM
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don#t worry about the price dropping, it's a great buying opportunity.
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March 13, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
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don#t worry about the price dropping, it's a great buying opportunity.

+100

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March 13, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
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man price is dropping  Cry

I wouldn't worry about it, it will be volatile and is a buying opportunity.  I'm looking at this from a long term view, and I believe there will be a point in the not too distant future where the price will shoot up considerably.
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March 13, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
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I didn't see anyone react on AnonyMint post (see quote below, original post on page 89), I'm not tech savvy enough in crypto to have a opinion on this, @keccak512 can we have the dev team point of view? Thanks.
 

Someone private messaged me to check out HeavyCoin.

Sorry I realize this post will make people angry at me. I am usually the messenger who brings technical reality which is usually bad news because most coin developers are not competent.

Innovations and contributions

  • HEFTY1 - a cryptographic hash function for CPU-only proof-of-work with a small memory footprint

Insufficient technical details. From what I read about their claim of SIMD as an issue. I think they fail to understand the nature of the GPU advantage.

  • Ultra-secure hashing - a secure strategy for using multiple cryptographic hash functions

From the Github page:

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Q: Doesn't Quarkcoin already implement multiple cryptographic hash functions?

A: Yes, but without increasing security against collisions. Quarkcoin (and its many clones) actually implement multiple hash functions as a simple chain of function compositions
Quark(x) = ... SKEIN512(KECCAK512( ... BMW512(BLAKE512(x))))

where ... contains additional hash function compositions using JH-512, Keccak-512, BMW-512, BLAKE-512, SKEIN-512 or Grøestl-512, which are randomly selected based on the 4th bit of previous hash outputs.

The problem is that, due to Quarkcoin's simple use of function compositions, if BLAKE512(x) has collisions, then so does BMW512(BLAKE512(x)) and SKEIN512(KECCAK512(... and so on, until we reach Quark(x), which also has collisions. Similarly, if SKEIN-512 or Grøestl-512 have collisions, then so does Quark(x). Simply put, if there's a collision attack or second-preimage attack for BLAKE-512(x), then Quark(x) is cracked.

Bullshit. Changing even one input bit to a hash should randomize all the output bits. Cracking any combinations of the hashes in the chain of hashes does not increase the risk of collisions for those in the chain that were not cracked.

This kind of silly mistake proves the developers are technically incompetent.

Whereas their "improvement" is worse in the sense that it takes 3 cracks to make it very insecure and 2 cracks to make it perhaps insecure, whereas with Quark it takes 4 cracks.

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Q: How does Heavycoin implement multiple cryptographic hash functions?

A: Heavycoin takes 64 bits from the output of each of 4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaves these bits into a combined 256-bit hash that is more resistant against collisions and second-preimage attacks.

Hope you realize that 2^64 is crackable with a server farm. If 3 of the 4 are cracked, then the 4th is useless in Heavy's design.


  • Temporal Retargeting - multipool protection that goes beyond Kimoto Gravity Well
  • Decentralized Block Reward Voting - the mining schedule and money supply are democratically decided (total supply is still bounded to 128M)

Oh great let the early investors decide to make coins even more rare. This will be a very good experiment to show why democracy is a power vacuum.  Wink

I Wouldn't worry too much about anonymint. He comes into every thread like some kind of genius savant, without actually being able to fix anything.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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March 13, 2014, 04:11:04 PM
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I didn't see anyone react on AnonyMint post (see quote below, original post on page 89), I'm not tech savvy enough in crypto to have a opinion on this, @keccak512 can we have the dev team point of view? Thanks.
 

Someone private messaged me to check out HeavyCoin.

Sorry I realize this post will make people angry at me. I am usually the messenger who brings technical reality which is usually bad news because most coin developers are not competent.

Innovations and contributions

  • HEFTY1 - a cryptographic hash function for CPU-only proof-of-work with a small memory footprint

Insufficient technical details. From what I read about their claim of SIMD as an issue. I think they fail to understand the nature of the GPU advantage.

  • Ultra-secure hashing - a secure strategy for using multiple cryptographic hash functions

From the Github page:

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Q: Doesn't Quarkcoin already implement multiple cryptographic hash functions?

A: Yes, but without increasing security against collisions. Quarkcoin (and its many clones) actually implement multiple hash functions as a simple chain of function compositions
Quark(x) = ... SKEIN512(KECCAK512( ... BMW512(BLAKE512(x))))

where ... contains additional hash function compositions using JH-512, Keccak-512, BMW-512, BLAKE-512, SKEIN-512 or Grøestl-512, which are randomly selected based on the 4th bit of previous hash outputs.

The problem is that, due to Quarkcoin's simple use of function compositions, if BLAKE512(x) has collisions, then so does BMW512(BLAKE512(x)) and SKEIN512(KECCAK512(... and so on, until we reach Quark(x), which also has collisions. Similarly, if SKEIN-512 or Grøestl-512 have collisions, then so does Quark(x). Simply put, if there's a collision attack or second-preimage attack for BLAKE-512(x), then Quark(x) is cracked.

Bullshit. Changing even one input bit to a hash should randomize all the output bits. Cracking any combinations of the hashes in the chain of hashes does not increase the risk of collisions for those in the chain that were not cracked.

This kind of silly mistake proves the developers are technically incompetent.

Whereas their "improvement" is worse in the sense that it takes 3 cracks to make it very insecure and 2 cracks to make it perhaps insecure, whereas with Quark it takes 4 cracks.

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Q: How does Heavycoin implement multiple cryptographic hash functions?

A: Heavycoin takes 64 bits from the output of each of 4 well-known cryptographic hash functions (SHA-256, Keccak-512, Grøestl-512 and BLAKE-512) and interleaves these bits into a combined 256-bit hash that is more resistant against collisions and second-preimage attacks.

Hope you realize that 2^64 is crackable with a server farm. If 3 of the 4 are cracked, then the 4th is useless in Heavy's design.


  • Temporal Retargeting - multipool protection that goes beyond Kimoto Gravity Well
  • Decentralized Block Reward Voting - the mining schedule and money supply are democratically decided (total supply is still bounded to 128M)

Oh great let the early investors decide to make coins even more rare. This will be a very good experiment to show why democracy is a power vacuum.  Wink

I Wouldn't worry too much about anonymint. He comes into every thread like some kind of genius savant, without actually being able to fix anything.

That doesn't mean some, if not all of his points are valid.

This post sums up why all this bullshit is a scam
Read It. Hate It. Change the facts that it represents.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1606638.msg16139644#msg16139644
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March 13, 2014, 04:16:19 PM
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don#t worry about the price dropping, it's a great buying opportunity.

+100

I cannot agree with you,  I prefer +1000000:)

HeavyCoin is a gpu/aisc/fpga very safe coin with brand new voting function, not like other shitting coins
price will go up, so buy a lot and bury them, take them out when you want a new porsche

and you can mine them with us at http://heavycoin.zhpool.com   Smiley


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March 13, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
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How come the net hash rate (according to nonce pool) is 2.15GH/s but the collective pools hashrate doesn't reflect this?  

Heavycoinpool is running at 14.18 MH/s (currently),
Nonce is running at 95.38 MH/s (currently)
stablehash is not running
zhpool is 1.2 MH/s
The other pools listed are not running
1GH (according to their hall of fame), is at 1.6 GH/s (I'm not sure how to see their live stats).

This doesn't add up to 2.15, which probably means there's a hidden pool running.  Either that or nonce-pools net hash rate is incorrectly reported.
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March 13, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
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How come the net hash rate (according to nonce pool) is 2.15GH/s but the collective pools hashrate doesn't reflect this?  

Heavycoinpool is running at 14.18 MH/s (currently),
Nonce is running at 95.38 MH/s (currently)
stablehash is not running
zhpool is 1.2 MH/s
The other pools listed are not running
1GH (according to their hall of fame), is at 1.6 GH/s (I'm not sure how to see their live stats).

This doesn't add up to 2.15, which probably means there's a hidden pool running.  Either that or nonce-pools net hash rate is incorrectly reported.


people with cpu farms solo mining?
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March 13, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
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Is anyone mining heavycoin with an FX 9590 black edition? and if so could you please post your mining speeds. Thanks

Currently I am mining with a 3570k running at 4.0ghz and an intel G1820 running at stock giving me 0.113 Total MH/s on 1Gh.com with an average of 40 coins a day.
would be nice to see what speeds other people are getting out there!
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March 13, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
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How come the net hash rate (according to nonce pool) is 2.15GH/s but the collective pools hashrate doesn't reflect this? 

Heavycoinpool is running at 14.18 MH/s (currently),
Nonce is running at 95.38 MH/s (currently)
stablehash is not running
zhpool is 1.2 MH/s
The other pools listed are not running
1GH (according to their hall of fame), is at 1.6 GH/s (I'm not sure how to see their live stats).

This doesn't add up to 2.15, which probably means there's a hidden pool running.  Either that or nonce-pools net hash rate is incorrectly reported.


solo? for heavycoin really consume very little memory,  everyone can solo with wallet open, and play his own


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March 13, 2014, 04:59:59 PM
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- yeah!!! still cooking it!!!

fuck-wit asshole ADMINS PREVENT ME from posting honest links


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March 13, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
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http://heavy.stablehash.com/ is up for beta!


http://ubuntuone.com/50wuGGpX3SgkG9Pp2hjsBw (Miner source if somebody can compile for windows! I will compile later if nobody else does.)

This is a win-32 bit version of the cpuminer-heavycoin-rc2 for use with stable hash.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vbqmf59q3occax/cpuminer-heavycoin-rc2-stablehash-w32.zip

you can join the pool at http://heavy.stablehash.com/

source provided by doge94 at bitcointalk.org

It has been tested on Win7 64.

usage

minerd.exe -a heavy -v 512 -o stratum+tcp://stablehash.com:5001 -u <YOUR_WORKER> -p <YOUR_WORKER_PASSWORD>

Donations are appreciated

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Enjoy and happy mining
Vijtech

This thread is far too long to read.

Is there a GPU client being used? I've read posts that there is.

just in a short word:

no

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March 13, 2014, 05:09:34 PM
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How come the net hash rate (according to nonce pool) is 2.15GH/s but the collective pools hashrate doesn't reflect this?  

Heavycoinpool is running at 14.18 MH/s (currently),
Nonce is running at 95.38 MH/s (currently)
stablehash is not running
zhpool is 1.2 MH/s
The other pools listed are not running
1GH (according to their hall of fame), is at 1.6 GH/s (I'm not sure how to see their live stats).

This doesn't add up to 2.15, which probably means there's a hidden pool running.  Either that or nonce-pools net hash rate is incorrectly reported.


There is no rpc call so this is just an estimate using the network difficulty, not entirely accurate, but fairly close.
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March 13, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
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Hi folks,

Im relatively new to mining, and as you can see, this is my first post.
Heavycoin made me try to involve at community.
While i dont consider self much smart about mining or tech savvy, i cant help but to choosay something about price and trading.

I see that lots of folks consider current hvc price undervalued, while dont understand that price is at your control.
Now lets say you believe in hvc. There is something you can do about price. At any market, its really about demand. Any merchant or speculant cant be indifferent to greater demand. If this community becomes more organised in terms of controled and constant demand rise, price will eventually go up and more and more will be interested in hvc.
Consider this short tem plan, and imagine what will happen if nearly anyone gets involved.

Choose an amount of money/other currency you will invest in hvc. Amount is really irellevant if many of us do this. Now split that amount in the way that EVERY DAY for next 2 or 3 weeks you buy a small amount of hvc. Bigger amounts in first week, lets say 50% of what you want to invest split into 7 days, and the rest in next 2 weeks. That way you will make hvc interesting, let other know that we have strong community and we can work together.
But this will work if we arrange to act together. It will repay and make hvc strong and respectable
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March 13, 2014, 05:18:12 PM
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Price trending upward on Mintpal.  With momentum gaining we could see decent gains today. I'm holding for .00007  Grin  loving HVC!
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March 13, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
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How come the net hash rate (according to nonce pool) is 2.15GH/s but the collective pools hashrate doesn't reflect this?  

Heavycoinpool is running at 14.18 MH/s (currently),
Nonce is running at 95.38 MH/s (currently)
stablehash is not running
zhpool is 1.2 MH/s
The other pools listed are not running
1GH (according to their hall of fame), is at 1.6 GH/s (I'm not sure how to see their live stats).

This doesn't add up to 2.15, which probably means there's a hidden pool running.  Either that or nonce-pools net hash rate is incorrectly reported.


There is no rpc call so this is just an estimate using the network difficulty, not entirely accurate, but fairly close.

Who/what is gpools BTW, I'm curious Cheesy

One more thing; as far as I know there isn't any IRC channel for HVC/pools yet. Wouldn't that be a good idea for people to get into contact in a quicker way?
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