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November 15, 2018, 05:54:37 PM
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Now I want to tell a little story about a Pajeet names Rambotnic, check out this thread for more info

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5020869.0

According to this Pajeet he is a Policeman, yet he cannot afford a few $ for some import duties..

I only just remembered he had PM'd me before.


End it here before crying and begging me for mercy Smiley

When you play clown in forums, actually in real life im the law Smiley Don't make me cut your ass for 24 hours to explain me few stuff Smiley

anyway - that made me smile, I guess we all need a giggle here every now and then.

hope all is well my little "in real life im the law" pajeet...



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November 15, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
Last edit: November 15, 2018, 06:56:05 PM by The Pharmacist
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I don't know if you missed this thread, but there's a kerfuffle about some negative feedback I'd left him for plagiarism.  So great was the controversy that DarkStar_, who I respect greatly, even left Rambotnic a positive to counter my negative.  But hey, that's not the first time I've disagreed with members I respect, and I'm sure it won't be the last.  

I'm not sure why cryptohunter is defending Rambotnic so strenuously, because even if it could be argued that what Rambotnic did wasn't plagiarism, he's still a complete garbage shitposter.  I don't know cryptohunter very well, but I respect that he has his own opinion too.  

End it here before crying and begging me for mercy Smiley

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This is a perfect example of why I think Rambotnic is just a shitposter aside from the plagiarism issue.  

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*And about Pharmacist, if he consider people who trying to help around as shitposters and spammers im feeling sorry for you Smiley
That's a bit of a straw man argument.  I consider you to be a shitposter--and you can feel as sorry for me as you like.  Makes no difference to me.

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November 15, 2018, 06:36:03 PM
Last edit: November 15, 2018, 06:51:08 PM by Rambotnic
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Every single post protecting newcomers from scamming is shitposting for you and all the propaganda trying to steal over people hands.
TMAN were exposed sadly without enough proofs to visit him Smiley
And most of the DT members using their powers not to help and educate new members but to run this forum with their own views.
99.99% of the red trust ratings on this forum are not based on rules because there is no official ones and the others are just to hide some of the propaganda here.
And yes TMAN, in the real life, we are the law, the people like me who work in the system Smiley
And people like you hiding behind their keyboards with god knows what (tor,vpns and stuff) are just upset people who can't even protect them in the real life Smiley
We both know who you are and who i am Smiley
The sad part here is you come from nowhere to be advocate to an idiot who attacked me because he didn't win a free giveaway ? Cheesy
You are worm and your life is misery.
No matter how many bitcoins you stole so far, that won't change the fact who you are inside Smiley
The difference between me and you is that i protect and help people and you search how to earn profit from them Smiley
Soon or later if life is enough kind we will cross same street and you will meet me in life, because criminals like you always see people like me Smiley
Its just matter of time you to make the wrong step Wink
If you wait me to make the wrong step, i had more than enough time to choose who i am and what to do, and your way is not my way Smiley I don't do any wrong steps Smiley
My job is to watch and track criminals like you Smiley
Just wait your time sunshine :*

Just in-topic: The customs fees worth more than the actual price of the giveaway Smiley And meaning of "Free giveaway" is "FREE" so you give nothing to receive something Smiley
Thanks god i don't steal from people like you to own bloody and criminal money to afford everything that i want Smiley And i don't feel shame that i have less than some criminal Smiley
Also that painting based on my view of what i like not worth the money to spend to own it.


*And about Pharmacist, if he consider people who trying to help around as shitposters and spammers im feeling sorry for you Smiley
** Now TMAN welcome to my ignore list Smiley
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November 15, 2018, 06:53:25 PM
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We both know who you are and who i am Smiley

I know you are a little pajeet keyboard warrior who could not afford $50 import duties, so you start a racist abusive attack against someone I like.

and as for me, I have told you where I live - you are welcome to come up here and see me. But we all know that you are just a little boy with a big mouth and no action. Being a trafic policeman in a corrupt country is nothing special Pajeet, you all get bought for $10.

now - as I said in PM, you are welcome to come up here but we all know you wont..

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We both know who you are and who i am Smiley

I know you are a little pajeet keyboard warrior who could not afford $50 import duties, so you start a racist abusive attack against someone I like.

and as for me, I have told you where I live - you are welcome to come up here and see me. But we all know that you are just a little boy with a big mouth and no action. Being a trafic policeman in a corrupt country is nothing special Pajeet, you all get bought for $10.

now - as I said in PM, you are welcome to come up here but we all know you wont..

XXX

night night princess.
For 10$ we can afford some special services from the female part of your family for sure, but not my honest Smiley
I'm way more than traffic policeman Smiley And every single country in the world is corrupt Smiley Don't forget you live in the same country.
Import duties was 450$ not 50$ Smiley
And yeah your "friend" was so sad about not winning that giveaway he should attack the winner Smiley
And don't worry, i don't feel ashamed from the fact i earn less than criminals like you Wink
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November 15, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
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For 10$ we can afford some special services from the female part of your family for sure, but not my honest Smiley
I'm way more than traffic policeman Smiley And every single country in the world is corrupt Smiley Don't forget you live in the same country.
Import duties was 450$ not 50$ Smiley
And yeah your "friend" was so sad about not winning that giveaway he should attack the winner Smiley
And don't worry, i don't feel ashamed from the fact i earn less than criminals like you Wink

Ok Ivan, you are a corrupt cop who stops people for 20lv fines as you are a pajeet.

Threats and actions are two different things. Now go wank off boris again so you can earn back the 100lv import duties.

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November 16, 2018, 06:58:04 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2018, 07:41:45 AM by Lauda
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So great was the controversy that DarkStar_, who I respect greatly, even left Rambotnic a positive to counter my negative.
I don't see how that legitimate disagreement. I couldn't possibly imagine why DarkStar would counter on someone who a) Is definitely guilty of what he/she was accused of. b) Reacts the way that he reacted. This is one of those cases where you would usually either ignore it (due to the walls of nonsense being posted) or double up the tag as it is certainly valid.

OP you need to calm down; you're out of control.

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I don't know if you missed this thread, but there's a kerfuffle about some negative feedback I'd left him for plagiarism.  So great was the controversy that DarkStar_, who I respect greatly, even left Rambotnic a positive to counter my negative.  But hey, that's not the first time I've disagreed with members I respect, and I'm sure it won't be the last.  

I'm not sure why cryptohunter is defending Rambotnic so strenuously, because even if it could be argued that what Rambotnic did wasn't plagiarism, he's still a complete garbage shitposter.  I don't know cryptohunter very well, but I respect that he has his own opinion too.  

End it here before crying and begging me for mercy Smiley

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This is a perfect example of why I think Rambotnic is just a shitposter aside from the plagiarism issue.  

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*And about Pharmacist, if he consider people who trying to help around as shitposters and spammers im feeling sorry for you Smiley
That's a bit of a straw man argument.  I consider you to be a shitposter--and you can feel as sorry for me as you like.  Makes no difference to me.


But that post just confirms another reason why Darkstar was 100% correct in light of the evidence we have to over turn your claim of him being a plagiarist. You did not leave red trust for him being a shit poster (which I have refuted strongly and provided argument) but plagiarism which you say is not arguable he is not. You have also recently even said the board rules (which are unofficial) need more clarity.  On this point they are clear but people are simply sayimg they imply things they do not say.

Intent and context are very important as Lauda himself has said before.

Being a shit poster also needs to have some criteria provided so we can measure people against it. To me he is not a shit poster.

Lauda also provides no basis for his statement that Darkstar has acted incorrectly. On the basis of what exactly?

Here is Lauda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3432369.msg35964475#msg35964475

1. there is no black and white (even though the accused broke no board rule as it stands) and the context clearly shows the OP had no reason to post suspected plagiarism in the meta board the ban hammers looking for nails in great concentration there and no sig banner... no real gain at all. Just trying to be helpful and getting fucked.

The entire thing is a waste of board time and resource.

Other posters in that thread after reviewing the context, intent, and full presentation of the observable events was brought to their intention seemed to soften on their stance.

Darkstar_  displayed why he is a DT here and has shown great character.  If we are to have judges here they must be flexible and able to alter opinion as observable events dictate.

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Lauda also provides no basis for his argument.

The entire thing is a waste of board time and resource.
No. You're just a selective hypocrite. Either ban people who plagiarism or don't. If you make exceptions (which doesn't seem to be the case given that people have asked for them in the past (including myself)), then this user is certainly not worthy of one either.

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Lauda also provides no basis for his argument.

The entire thing is a waste of board time and resource.
No. You're just a selective hypocrite. Either ban people who plagiarism or don't. If you make exceptions (which doesn't seem to be the case given that people have asked for them in the past (including myself)), then this user is certainly not worthy of one either.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3432369.msg35964475#msg35964475

No you are a selective hypocrite.  That persons copy and paste was not a fair comparison as I have shown before.

Also LaudaM you have often altered your opinion on things that were clearly wrong to start with.

Every person is worthy of a fair assessment of the observable fact.

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Either you're an idiot or you're intentionally lying. I literally stated that I've requested for an exemption in the past, which was rejected by the forum. I have accepted this decision, and have therefore started asking for non selective enforcement which is why Rambotic has to be banned. Calling out for equal enforcement is not a hypocritical stance, unless you're a delusional kool-aid drinker.

That persons copy and paste was not a fair comparison as I have shown before.
There is no 'some plagiarism is fine' vs. 'some plagiarism isn't fine'.

you have often altered your opinion on things that were clearly wrong to start with.
This is false. I am almost never wrong with neither my opinions nor my ratings. FYI if you don't change a false opinion in light of proper evidence you're an idiot, which is clearly not something that you understand (trying to demonize this like a proper NPC).

Every person is worthy of a fair assessment of the observable fact.
Miss me with that leftist/globalist garbage. Roll Eyes Rambotic is an undesirable shitposter that broke the rules. That is the only objective fact here.

My question to you is: Why have you taken such a keen interest in this shitposter? You aren't that active in this part of town.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3432369.msg35964475#msg35964475
No you are a selective hypocrite.  That persons copy and paste was not a fair comparison as I have shown before.
Either you're an idiot or you're intentionally lying. I literally stated that I've requested for an exemption in the past, which was rejected by the forum. I have accepted this decision, and have therefore started asking for non selective enforcement which is why Rambotic has to be banned. This is not a hypocritical stance, unless you're a delusional kool-aid drinker.

Every person is worthy of a fair assessment of the observable fact.
Miss me with that leftist nonsense. Rambotic is an undesirable shitposter that broke the rules. That is the only objective fact here.

LaudaM - - You seem to be missing several  points.



1. this person clearly did not break the board rules. The person you were sticking up for did.

2. you want to see what you initially saw as unfair imposed upon others because it happened once. Actually this is even more unfair because he did not break the rules. You seem not to stick to your beliefs and are now arguing therefore for what you initially saw as unfair. I'm not sure what that says about you. . As I have already shown this is even more unfair because he did not claim the work as his own.
Incidentally even though the guy you were arguing FOR did break the rules I agree that it was harsh to perm ban him.... however this is not comparable to this instance in that this person did not break the board rules as they are written. Any implied further meaning to those rules are up for debate.

This is what you are saying here.

The store rules ( those leaving the store without paying for goods are thieves)

I don't think the person who walked into a store and took the fruit without paying should be hung -- that seems too extreme. Okay he got hung damn.

In that case I want the other guy who walked into the store threw the money on the floor of that store before leaving to be certainly hung because that makes it fair.

Sorry that is just strange and just makes it look like you have a strange moral compass.

3. That I know you can change and alter your perspective on things regularly hence why I need to see the basis of each and every statement that you make that seems unreasonable.



Please laudaM take time to structure your argument so that is is not so time wasting . Try to say something and then substantiate it with a logical path that can be followed for me not to have to just repeat myself over and over. It may be best to go back and read the original thread a few times. Then as I said bring forth any holes you find so we can discuss it.

First copy and paste the unofficial rule that was broken before posting more unsubstantiated claims.





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-removed poisoning the well and cherry picking-
That's the amount of substance that your defense has. You are clearly motivated by something shady here that we are not aware of, thus I can't trust you either. Unless you reveal what the reason is, or you stop your selective enforcement bullshit as well as your subtle ad hominem attempts, you may as well stop responding. I am not going to waste time writing long responses to logical fallacies and hypocrites.  

He BROKE the rules when he plagiarized, end of story.

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-removed poisoning the well and cherry picking-
That's the amount of substance that your defense has. You are clearly motivated by something shady here that we are not aware of, thus I can't trust you either. Unless you reveal what the reason is, or you stop your selective enforcement bullshit as well as your subtle ad hominem attempts, you may as well stop responding. I am not going to waste time writing long responses to logical fallacies and hypocrites.  

He BROKE the rules when he plagiarized, end of story.

LOL you can't trust me. Motivated by something shady - - lol take a look at your feedback. You are generally thought of as one of the most devious scammers on this board according to many threads here and your trust score.

Your argument does not hold water.

Read my post and take your time to reply. You seem upset and rushing your replies and constantly editing your posts.

LOL mr ad hominem.

Now take a deep breath and simply provide a simple basis for your frantic posting of gibberish.

You must realise that as previous dash enabler and promoter can not be taken at face value however much you repent for this.

You are only making yourself look desperate and pathetic by trying to divert from the topic here.

I would also imagine people are more interested in your motivation here than my own.




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*noises and whining*
You switch from inducing random, irrelevant information to trying to defend cheaters too incoherently. It is due to this that your questionable motivations and fake coherent arguments easily become obvious.

Plagiarism or no plagiarism, Darkstar's counter or not, rambotnic can't be trusted due to his behavior anyways. Oh look, I was right again unlike the leftist well-poisoner. Surprising.


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*noises and whining*
You switch from inducing random, irrelevant information to trying to defend cheaters too incoherently. It is due to this that your questionable motivations and fake coherent arguments easily become obvious.

Plagiarism or no plagiarism, Darkstar's counter or not, rambotnic can't be trusted due to his behavior anyways.



So now its plagiarism or no plagiarism Huh he just has to be banned??? what other behaviour deserving a perm ban do you mean?

Please provide basis for your statements. I see someone trying to avoid discussing the presented facts.


Please provide what I have asked for. Without it your argument is a non-starter.

Please go back and read my posts.

Let's save the personal scrutiny for later. I am certainly open to that stage coming next if you wish.

For now read my posts, present your argument clearly with observable events/facts.

No more personal remarks discuss the observable events only.

I am totally down for a personal scrutiny session later on. I will look forward to examining all the evidence with you and help you clear you negative trust. Even you deserve a chance to be declared innocent if you are. However having read some of the threads about you we have a long road ahead my friend.

You have been wrong on some very big projects before. Why deny which is observable in the public domain.


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November 16, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
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My activity, my posts, my trade history clearly enough prove i can be trusted or not Smiley So far i received red trust only from exposed scammers and people who harm this community.
The only person who is not scammer and posted red trust for me is Pharmacist.
You Lauda are shit poster, proven scammer and person who threat people.
TMAN is just the same as you Smiley
And about owlcatz, he is just jealous person who attack people because he didn't won a free giveaway ? Cheesy
And he attack me because in that time i didn't had enough money (450$ worth of customs fees) to collect my winnings and also i didn't feel right to win FREE giveaway and PAY something i won FREE ?
Every single statement from Lauda, TMAN and owlcatz just prove that we need change on this forum and the first step was taken from your DT removal.
No you are not always right  Lauda, in fact, in most cases you act and write only when you can earn something from that but never help people around Smiley
Maybe somewhere in the past you help people but you can't lay on old laurels.
You became more shit poster than everyone else around and defending your own group of exposed scammers.
If you calling shit posters people who trying to protect people, you just prove my words that you are criminal and helping people is nothing more than shits Smiley
I don't really care bout scammers opinions like yours,tman and owlcatz, the whole community already know you all Smiley
Well not everyone know me, but the people who wanted to check my post history and my trade history, at least i am always honest, trying to protect people and using escrow Smiley
If the average user follow those lines to help people and always use escrow, we would have the best forum on the world Smiley
I can't wait the time till you, tman and owlcatz, will magically disappear from this forum like many exposed scammers did already Smiley
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-snip-
I am totally down for a personal scrutiny session later on. I will look forward to examining all the evidence with you and help you clear you negative trust. Even you deserve a chance to be declared innocent if you are. However having read some of the threads about you we have a long road ahead my friend.

You have been wrong on some very big projects before. Why deny which is observable in the public domain.
Here you go again. Do you think that someone like you can fool me with these pajeet rehashed tactics[1]? Retrospective of your actions:
  • Call for "observable facts", not personal matters. Then you naturally try to introduce information related to the latter. Here's a quick breakdown of your failed attempt:
    • Introduce poison: Indirectly state that I'm "one of the most devious scammers " in your previous post by referring to statements made by others[2].
    • Switch: Offer help to clear accusations, emphasizing on their quantity (none of which are true, which makes the quantity irrelevant), i.e. things which are untrue to begin with.
    • Introduce yet more poison about my character by bringing up ghosts (predictions?) that are not even remembered by their author.

If you were even remotely objective, non-selective (i.e. not a hypocrite), and stood behind your words, you would have been defending those that were actually mistreated a long time ago. This is assuming that you have good judgement, but given the kind of person that you are defending after they were clearly caught doing something that is against the rules, it is clear that you do not.

[1] You need a lot of soy IV before you can play something like this on me mr. leftist NPC.
[2] Cute deflection. Kiss



I'll let myself out after this destruction; enough indulging 'geckos for one day. You can continue to slander my name without me.
Cheerio.

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Lauda should thank god that scams are not moderated on this forum and they are not in the rules Smiley
Or he/she would be banned long long time ago if the scams were moderated and deserved ban Smiley
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-snip-
I am totally down for a personal scrutiny session later on. I will look forward to examining all the evidence with you and help you clear you negative trust. Even you deserve a chance to be declared innocent if you are. However having read some of the threads about you we have a long road ahead my friend.

You have been wrong on some very big projects before. Why deny which is observable in the public domain.
Here you go again. Do you think that someone like you can fool me with these pajeet rehashed tactics[1]? You, as a selective hypocrite who claims everyone deserves a chance:
  • Call for "observable facts", not personal matters. Then you naturally try to introduce information related to the latter:
    • Introduce poison: Indirectly state that I'm "one of the most devious scammers " in your previous post by referring to statements made by others[2].
    • Switch: Offer help by to clear accusations, emphasizing on the quantity (none of which are true, thus the quantity is irrelevant), things which are wrong to begin with.
    • Introduce yet more poison about my character by bringing up ghosts that are not even remembered by the author.

If you were even remotely objective, non-selective (aka not a hypocrite), and stood behind your words, you would have been defending those that were actually mistreated a long time ago. This is assuming that you have good judgement, but given the kind of person that you are defending after they were obviously caught doing something that is against the rules, it is clear that you do not.

[1] You need a lot of soy IV before you can play something like this on me mr. NPC.
[2] Cute deflection. Kiss



I'll let myself out; enough indulging 'geckos for one day.

Run baby..........

1. it is clear that you will not present observable grounds for your argument.
2. thinks it is okay to say that I have shady motives and other spurious attacks on persons and deflection tactics to try to decredit other persons  character - - but not willing to accept reasonable conclusions based on his trust feedback and previous post history. Again observable on this thread/board. I mean complaining about behaviour you yourself introduce first into a thread is the definition of HYPOCRISY.
3. Now gone back on plagiarism or not (prime crux of argument)? but now invents other behaviour worth of perm ban but will not provide evidence.
4. Destruction of the private property of gekos.  That could be a balloon full of innocent investors dreams using certain escrows. Evil kitty.
5. Has no memory of being a dash supporter... has no memory of later saying it was a scam. (not that that is that relevant only to counter his argument he is never wrong)

seems legit. lol

I have nothing personal against you all things considered ( i have not read in detail all the basis of your negative feedback )however I can not allow you to persecute a person I see no evidence provided deserves such treatment by claiming there is such evidence.

Please remain quiet if you are unwilling/unable to bring evidence to substantiate your opinions or show any logical and reasonable trail of thought that others that are reasonable and fair could follow and agree with. Anything else requires trust in you and your personal moral compass which I don't expect many would be comfortable with at this point.






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