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November 30, 2018, 02:49:43 PM
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To manipulate the price of bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be more and more difficult in the future. Now the price of bitcon is very low, but I think that whales will lower it even lower soon. I can not say that this is due only to manipulation, perhaps this is due to the fact that many investors exit bitcoin due to fear of losing the remaining money.

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November 30, 2018, 04:57:30 PM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

A very good question. There is an interesting thread here on the forum about a possible reason... "the bitcoin OTC crash"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5072733.0

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December 03, 2018, 08:28:48 AM
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To manipulate the price of bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be more and more difficult in the future. Now the price of bitcon is very low, but I think that whales will lower it even lower soon. I can not say that this is due only to manipulation, perhaps this is due to the fact that many investors exit bitcoin due to fear of losing the remaining money.
Those who sell off an asset because they "fear" are not investors or deserve to be called so. A real investor putting in their money into a project would do research and look at the market risks associated with it before investing. So when the market drops they would still hold their coins and not sell at a loss.

Whales are not predictable as to what they are planning. While one whale may be trying to dump another might pump and the market might see a net growth or fall. Altcoins are dropping as btc is dropping which is nothing new but keep an eye out on the gainers in the bear market - those are coins you would never want to enter if the growth is a pumped one.



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December 03, 2018, 08:57:34 AM
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To manipulate the price of bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be more and more difficult in the future. Now the price of bitcon is very low, but I think that whales will lower it even lower soon. I can not say that this is due only to manipulation, perhaps this is due to the fact that many investors exit bitcoin due to fear of losing the remaining money.
Those who sell off an asset because they "fear" are not investors or deserve to be called so. A real investor putting in their money into a project would do research and look at the market risks associated with it before investing. So when the market drops they would still hold their coins and not sell at a loss.

Whales are not predictable as to what they are planning. While one whale may be trying to dump another might pump and the market might see a net growth or fall. Altcoins are dropping as btc is dropping which is nothing new but keep an eye out on the gainers in the bear market - those are coins you would never want to enter if the growth is a pumped one.




I agree with what you said, sir. They don't deserve to be called investors if all they do is buy then pump and dump. That is even illegal in some countries. Its an act of fraud and I believe the current projects that are too late on the crypto bubble are doing this to scam people. It is not about "hodling" anymore. You have to really strategize in this field or you will lose real money.
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December 03, 2018, 09:02:31 AM
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with the current decline in prices I see if manipulation of BTC and Altcoin is easy for anyone who wants to make a profit, because now many people do that because they are blocked by income.

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December 03, 2018, 10:53:38 AM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

The manipulation also depends on trade volume. İt is going to be relatively harder to manipulate an asset when the trade volume is relatively higher than the other asset not just market cap.
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December 03, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
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I do not know about those manipulators. so far the price of bitcoin is low but this is the time for you to buy cheap, but we do not know when this price is high when it comes to selling it immediately or so keep it as long as the price increases. I think it's really hoping it will increase the bitcoin soon.
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December 03, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
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Yes, the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency market doesn’t look very promising right now. But the truth is that awareness about the blockchain technology and all that it can do is spreading. This means that it won’t be long before people begin to realize the true potential of Bitcoins and altcoin. The prices are falling because there are hundreds of coins that are fake, this makes the market stoop low. However, as things become more transparent and fake coins are kicked out, things will start looking up again. I think that while this is the best time to buy Bitcoin and altcoins, you should hold on to them if you’ve already invested.
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December 03, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
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The smaller the Marketcap is the easier it could be manipulated, this applies on all coins, not just BTC. But I don't think there is more room for manipulation right now! What are they gonna manipulate? Any further manipulation will hurt them more than benefit them. Any further dump under $3000 will make me believe this is not a job of whales and it is a job of big entities who don't really care about money and their main goal is to control BTC.
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December 03, 2018, 01:52:54 PM
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The market is not easily manipulated,well as you have made these words as if BTC and ALT are very easy to manipulate in your opinion.Do you have that amount of 125 billion to manipulate the market? If you have that it's very easy and right but I'm not sure cause one stick will not be strong against millions of sticks.

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December 03, 2018, 02:01:51 PM
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If you are a billionaire and you want to control and manipulate the market in the future, now it is a good time to buy, I guess that is what happened in the last weeks and one of the biggest manipulators is the Satoshi himself
If I were billionaire I guess I will buy a lot of bitcoin and altcoins which we know you can manipulate the market if you have a lot of it. All of us believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is the reason why the market are down because he can manipulate it and we all know that he is the person who have a lot of bitcoins.
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December 03, 2018, 02:57:35 PM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

Actually i am very much optimistic about crypto market. Yes you are right and i think this is high time to manipulate BTC and alt coin if you have enough money. But this is only my thinking as i am very much hopeful about market. But i think you are more claver and know vast about market so always make your own decision that after your decision you can not blame another. Go ahead and be lucky.
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December 03, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
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The market is not easily manipulated,well as you have made these words as if BTC and ALT are very easy to manipulate in your opinion.Do you have that amount of 125 billion to manipulate the market? If you have that it's very easy and right but I'm not sure cause one stick will not be strong against millions of sticks.
With how bitcoin and the crypto market already grow around the web and there's already big players who will ready to play yes the market can be manipulated, this business personalities are here to grab the opportunities and take away more money from those individuals who are not well inform
about the industry, only those who can play along with the whales will survive and earned huge profits.
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December 03, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
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It's definitely a huge decrease in the marketcap especially at a point like this when the value of BTC is already down.
This shows that people are loosing interest/trust in BTC which is why the money is flowing out of the crypto economy.
I guess lack of developments and growth in the price of cryptocurrencies are driving away people's interest over crypto.
It becomes easier to manipulate a coin when only few people are holding it.

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December 03, 2018, 04:08:21 PM
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The correlation about long-term potential manipulation is not too binding because more and more holders realize not to be caught in the panic of holding their coins.

Currently it is very clear that it is very easy to change momentum with a variety of volume manipulations, but for the future the system will strengthen the fundamentals continuously, no matter how many tokens investors have, the paradigm will always appear to keep the volume limit not always negative. because they will always set limits to enjoy profits at certain stages and keep playing safe.

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December 05, 2018, 08:26:54 AM
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The market is not easily manipulated,well as you have made these words as if BTC and ALT are very easy to manipulate in your opinion.Do you have that amount of 125 billion to manipulate the market? If you have that it's very easy and right but I'm not sure cause one stick will not be strong against millions of sticks.
You are not getting the point. You dont need to have a lot of money at hand to manipulate in the bear market. People are already scared
and panicking about what to do in future and how to handle their assets. Although this is one of the basic risks associated with a speculative market some people just have to put in all their emotions in it.

It is possible to manipulate the market by coordinating pump or dump. If you have a number of people whose united amount of capital is large then that can also be used to move the market in one direction.

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December 05, 2018, 10:40:16 AM
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Things are getting worse for digital currency I remember this time last year. there are alot of smile in peoples face with alot predicting bitcoin might reach 50k before the end of 2018, here we are things have fallen apart and all we hope things doesnt get worst before the eve of 2019. festive period is getting close and I am very sure people will wanna take their money to enjoy the holiday and probably will might witness another fall. Dont be surprise if bitcoin go below 2k. some people were calling it market correction but I am very sure bitcoin will pump again some day.
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December 05, 2018, 02:08:41 PM
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Crypto currency has always been easy to manipulate and now it seems lil more easier and it's getting less romantic

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December 05, 2018, 11:32:49 PM
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I think that now it is easier to manipulate cryptocurrencies. The smaller the market, the easier it is to manipulate them. But I think that regulators will not allow to simply manipulate the market.
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December 06, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
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That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

2018 is a year of manipulation because of 2017's skyrocketing Bitcoin and Altcoin prices. It happened before, and it will always happen. Number 1 reason I see is that the market doesn't need too much filthy coins, if you know what I mean. Its a fit year for survival because we all know how many scams have already happened. And last but not the least, we should only see the trend last year. It won't be long till it rises but do not expect too much.

Yes, I agree with you, a lot of shitcoin has been circulating lately, and that makes the cryptocurrency market chaotic. And maybe that way greedy people manipulate the market.
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