UFC 232: Jones vs Gustafsson 2 Prediction and Info Thread

[tokeweed]

^  Sure...  Everyone is taking something to get an edge, but not everyone is f*cking doping, else USADA, WHO COULD DETECT A PICO GRAM OF SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY, would be flagging way more athletes left and right than they are now.  Let that sink in first.

And let's just wait til the event is over...  I think there's more to the Jones' flagging than we're seeing now.

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[kenzawak]

The half-life of a drug is the time it takes for the amount of a drug in your body to be reduced by 50%.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-the-Half-Life-of-a-Drug.aspx

Let's say Jones took a 100mg dose of Turinabol, the drug found in his system. Tbol's half-life is 16 hours.

16 hours after the drug administration, 50 mg of the drug remains in the body.
32 hours after the drug administration, 25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
48 hours after the drug administration, 12.5 mg of the drug remains in the body.
64 hours after the drug administration, 6.25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
80 hours after the drug administration, 0.39 mg of the drug remains in the body.

[tokeweed]

^  And then what...?

[kenzawak]

^  And then what...?

It's not a residue from one year ago lol and we have no idea of the amount he took (tiny or not). He just fucked up his timing, that's all.

[tokeweed]

^  Exactly what I'm saying!  I'm hearing Jones is allegedly micro dosing Mibolerone which is usually cut with Turinabol which then explains why he had small traces of it in his system.

Anyway, all this, is from what we're seeing right now.  Let's wait til the event is over...

[peter0425]

^  Exactly what I'm saying!  I'm hearing Jones is allegedly micro dosing Mibolerone which is usually cut with Turinabol which then explains why he had small traces of it in his system.

Anyway, all this, is from what we're seeing right now.  Let's wait til the event is over...

From what I understand, UFC is trying to portray Jones as not doing this "micro-dosing", what was found out was just a residual from his previous failed doping test. Maybe this is the cover up of sort or damage control on their cash cow. lol.

[pixie85]

Everybody is on drugs these days it's only a matter of being smart and able to cover it up. Lance Armstrong was doping, all bodybuilders are on steroids, recently one of them got a fatal heart attack at the age of 26. I read about it like a week ago.

Gustafsson is having his fun:



The event will be a double doping match:

on January 6, 2012, it was announced that Cyborg had tested positive for stanozolol, an anabolic steroid. As a result of the banned substance, the fight's result was changed to a no contest. Cyborg had her license suspended for one year and was fined $2,500.

[Ranly123]

Jones vs. Gustafsson
 Gustafsson 3.43


Cris Cyborg vs. Amanda Nunes
 Nunes 3.25

 Michael Chiesa vs. Carlos Condit
 Chiesa 1.55

Ilir Latifi vs. Corey Anderson
 Latifi 1.66

 Cat Zingano vs Megan Anderson
 Zingano 1.81

https://degenbet.com/ufc-232-jones-vs-gustafsson-quick-picks/

Amanda Nunes is fighting again. I love the way she fight and those lockdowns are impressive. Though betting with her means having less winnable on our water than betting with cyborg, I would still be on the side of Nunes.

[vit05]

Everybody is on drugs these days it's only a matter of being smart and able to cover it up. Lance Armstrong was doping, all bodybuilders are on steroids, recently one of them got a fatal heart attack at the age of 26. I read about it like a week ago.

Gustafsson is having his fun:



The event will be a double doping match:

on January 6, 2012, it was announced that Cyborg had tested positive for stanozolol, an anabolic steroid. As a result of the banned substance, the fight's result was changed to a no contest. Cyborg had her license suspended for one year and was fined $2,500.

At some point the rules against doping will have to be completely modified. And a much greater tolerance would be implanted. Today it is very unlikely that there is a champion fighter who has not made regular use of prohibited substances.

[bbc.reporter]

Everybody is on drugs these days it's only a matter of being smart and able to cover it up. Lance Armstrong was doping, all bodybuilders are on steroids, recently one of them got a fatal heart attack at the age of 26. I read about it like a week ago.

Gustafsson is having his fun:



The event will be a double doping match:

on January 6, 2012, it was announced that Cyborg had tested positive for stanozolol, an anabolic steroid. As a result of the banned substance, the fight's result was changed to a no contest. Cyborg had her license suspended for one year and was fined $2,500.

He is having his fun because Alexander Gustafsson knows that he can beat a steroid using Jon Jones because he almost did in their 1st fight, which was very possible that Jon was doping.

[cellard]

^  Sure...  Everyone is taking something to get an edge, but not everyone is f*cking doping, else USADA, WHO COULD DETECT A PICO GRAM OF SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY, would be flagging way more athletes left and right than they are now.  Let that sink in first.

And let's just wait til the event is over...  I think there's more to the Jones' flagging than we're seeing now.

Yeah the whole thing is extremely strange. If USADAa can detect ridiculously small particles, then we would get "false positives" all over the place. Even real false positives, since anyone that eats meat could potentially be eating tiny amounts of hormones like trenbolone or clenbuterol for instance.

Actually we just recently had the Canelo case in which he was busted with clenbuterol, and Canelo said it could have been some meat he consumed in Mexico... all of these athletes travel around the globe and eat in many countries, so even if some are bullshitting, there will be legit cases and USADA would catch all of that.

Strange but lets admit it, we are all watching anyway.

[Jating]

What a night.

Jones destroys Gus and claim the vacant Light Heavyweight again. Nunes upset Cyborg and wins the featherweight belt. I thought Cyborg has the upper hand in the striking but Nunes came up blazing, both hands caught Cyborg and that overhand right was perfect to end the fight.

[Baofeng]

Nunes upset Cyborg and wins the featherweight belt. I thought Cyborg has the upper hand in the striking but Nunes came up blazing, both hands caught Cyborg and that overhand right was perfect to end the fight.

Damn. Amanda Nunes makes Cyborg looks like an amateur in the cage. Let's see her impressive resume:

- Chris Cyborg (:51, Round 1)
- Shevchenko (twice)
- Ronda Rousey (:48, Round 1)
- Meisha Tate (3:16, Round 1)
- Sarah McMann (2:53, Round 1)

What a record. As expected, Jones wear his new "gear" (no pun intended  ), as the new LHW champ. Ryan Hall defeated BJ Penn with a beautiful submission (heel hook), news report says that Penn's knee pop-up, I guess its time for him to retire.

[eaLiTy]

Incredible night of fight and i am really furious by the way in which Cyborg approached the fight, Amanda Nunes was swinging with her eyes closed and Cyborg got smacked left and right, aggression cannot win fights and Jon Jones proved that with his incredible knockout of Alex, with a patient approach in the first two rounds and his aim was to score points for the judges and the third round stopped him as he promised, any more rematches for Jones and i am predicting a knockout, his fight IQ is out of the charts and i really hope he does not get into trouble anymore and i would like to see him fight often this year.

[Tavarez]

After everything I saw and heard I can only come up with the conclusion that the UFC organisation is led by faggots and drug addicts with clown Dana White on the top. Such disrespect towards the legends of the sport has never seen before.

[peter0425]

Incredible night of fight and i am really furious by the way in which Cyborg approached the fight, Amanda Nunes was swinging with her eyes closed and Cyborg got smacked left and right, aggression cannot win fights and Jon Jones proved that with his incredible knockout of Alex, with a patient approach in the first two rounds and his aim was to score points for the judges and the third round stopped him as he promised, any more rematches for Jones and i am predicting a knockout, his fight IQ is out of the charts and i really hope he does not get into trouble anymore and i would like to see him fight often this year.

I agree. I don't know if Cyborg has a strategy or if the complexion of the game really changes once she was hit in the face by Amanda. I thought she is the better striker, but Nunes somewhat beat her to the punch. As for Jones, what do you expect? his fight IQ was flawless, everyone thought it will be a close fight specially what Alex has shown in the first fight. I would agree that it's time for BJ Penn to quit, this is a new era, no need to damage himself.

[Theb]

I just got amazed how dominant Amanda Nunes was in the fight she KOed Cris Cyborg under a minute and she looked already beaten up before that. Whatever happened is Cris Cyborg didn't really look like a champ last night she didn't know what to do when Nunes started landing punches on her face. Just like what I said earlier BJ Penn losing is an inevitable thing to happen and this loss was obviously something to be ashamed of as it was his first ever submission loss and he didn't even reach a 2nd round to prove anything in the Octagon. I think it is his time to call it quits with MMA.

[tokeweed]

Nunes upset Cyborg and wins the featherweight belt. I thought Cyborg has the upper hand in the striking but Nunes came up blazing, both hands caught Cyborg and that overhand right was perfect to end the fight.

Damn. Amanda Nunes makes Cyborg looks like an amateur in the cage. Let's see her impressive resume:

- Chris Cyborg (:51, Round 1)
- Shevchenko (twice)
- Ronda Rousey (:48, Round 1)
- Meisha Tate (3:16, Round 1)
- Sarah McMann (2:53, Round 1)

Yup.  Her resume looks waaay better than Cyborg's.  Cyborg mostly won vs bums (except Holly Holm).  Lol.

Anyway...  I guess that settles it between Jones and Gus.  I feel Jones needs a tougher challenge at HW vs Cormier.  I'd def back Cormier as the underdog.

[kenzawak]

What a great event!
I was a bit disappointed with Gustafsson, I expected better from him. He had a lot of time to prepare for that fight but he didn't show much improvement. Jones is just out of this league. His fighting is so unorthodox and unpredictable, so much fun to watch.
I usually don't watch womens' fights but I had to make an exception for this one. Lots of energy there, in the octagon and in the crowd. This was the real main event.
I also enjoyed the Chiesa / Condit fight with all those grappling exchanges. Very interesting to watch.
But the best fight for me was the Mendes / Volkanovski one. It was war. A couple of times, I thought Mendes was gonna take this one.
Overall, a fun night.

[tokeweed]

What a great event!
I was a bit disappointed with Gustafsson, I expected better from him. He had a lot of time to prepare for that fight but he didn't show much improvement. Jones is just out of this league. His fighting is so unorthodox and unpredictable, so much fun to watch.
I usually don't watch womens' fights but I had to make an exception for this one. Lots of energy there, in the octagon and in the crowd. This was the real main event.
I also enjoyed the Chiesa / Condit fight with all those grappling exchanges. Very interesting to watch.
But the best fight for me was the Mendes / Volkanovski one. It was war. A couple of times, I thought Mendes was gonna take this one.
Overall, a fun night.

^  Yup Mendes vs Volkanovski was awesome...  It was the fight of the night (deservingly).  

So...  Any prospects for LHW to challenge Jones?  I don't think there's anyone else except Cormier.  Lol.