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Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game. I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players. https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_playersThis is precisely why I can never bet on esports. I'm not saying it's full of cheats or anything but I've heard stories from lower levels and seen myself in my country some of the local tournaments, where it's just full of deals and backdoor agreements. Good to ban people for life from cheating. I absolutely hate it. It's painful to the side of the bettors because they are supporting a specific team, knowing that the team they are supporting is already accepted or designated to lose the game. This covers the whole betting platform for Dota 2 which includes item and also to those bookies which are the bets are into bitcoin. The punishment is hard and it's removing your whole career into the competitive scene if you are a pro player. Dota 2 is one of the best competitive game of all time today the valve or the pro scene if the world of dota now supports the use of esports betting like the gosugamers and odds of the winrate of the time and this is good because the viewers see the potential odds of winning of the team.
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Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game.
It's not that much. https://www.gosugamers.net/ with statistics? Okay, but they're not the highest flyers. What am I missing? Analyses and esports forecasts - ok there is https://esporttalk.org/ with betting tips and prediction but it's also a little bit short while; cool types and interesting information but it's not like in the world of football and other normal disciplines. Maybe it just takes time for something like https://www.flashscore.com/ or something like a transfermarkt to come into being. I don't really know if the betting and betting on esport at all can be similar to the current one. Maybe it's made on strength and you won't be able to make money from it at all. Oh, and let's not forget one thing. The black side of the medal. After all, here the risk of unfair matches is only high. What do you think?
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Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc. I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy. The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.
I only agree that you have no influence over the choice of map. You can possibly play live and gain an advantage here. But the live odds are already about 15 - 20% lower. So it's not mathetically worth it. I think there's no easy way of learning to make correct picks, you basically have to know exactly how the games work and you need to know intricate details about the players/teams. I've made some successful picks in the past, on Starcraft for example, just because I'd been following one particular player while he was trying to move up the ladder.
I'd noticed that his game seemed a little bit off and decided to bet against him when he was playing against a slightly weaker opponent. My gut feeling ended up being correct, since I made a nice profit from that game.
It's little stuff like this that you should take notice of.
In this situation, all you need is prior knowledge and skills in gambling. Experience is the best tips for everyone who wants to try esports betting. We should be wise and also be we should be brave in everything what we do. Ot takes guts for us to earn some money more and dont stop of you lose one time.Try and try until you get satisfied. I think that with this Starcraft example you've come to the heart of the problem and its solution. You have to focus on one small detail. One team, one player and watch him all the time. Only then can we have our own unique insider knowledge. Then we don't have to rely on the statistics and talking to most people that player XX won 80% and has XYZ statistics because these are trivialities and everyone knows it.
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February 08, 2020, 10:23:13 PM |
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ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.
I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into.
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February 09, 2020, 09:21:33 PM |
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I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)
Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?
For me, there are no tricks in esports betting (if you are considering the 100% win rate) there will be only tips. In sports betting, you should analysis the teams very well especially the teams that you are betting, like what is good about the team A conferred to team B, the strength and weakness of each side, and also the odds. I usually bet in esports and in my experience if the game is not that serious or crucial try to bet on the high odds or underdogs because the profitable rate is much higher compared to the other team and also, I’m always lucky when I do that kind strategy, but I make sure that I review the units. In that case, you will profit well if you get lucky and if the game is serious/ semi-finals- finals make sure to bet on the time that you trusted the most because that moment each team is doing their best to win. Do you have any specific stalls to choose the mismatched matches you write about? Maybe some programs? How do you estimate such matches? Because I don't think it's based on the results alone ?? Today with the use of sports betting many people wants to include the esports and one of the growing betting site is with the use of esports commonly with the use with the games like the defense of the ancients 2, league of legends, Fortnite and many more. Esports betting is one of the best matches today and also there are a lot of websites that support the team analysis it shows the stats of the team win rate, player analysis and records and by the data we can gather is we can use to find out which team will win the game.
It's not that much. https://www.gosugamers.net/ with statistics? Okay, but they're not the highest flyers. What am I missing? Analyses and esports forecasts - ok there is https://esporttalk.org/ with betting tips and prediction but it's also a little bit short while; cool types and interesting information but it's not like in the world of football and other normal disciplines. Maybe it just takes time for something like https://www.flashscore.com/ or something like a transfermarkt to come into being. I don't really know if the betting and betting on esport at all can be similar to the current one. Maybe it's made on strength and you won't be able to make money from it at all. Oh, and let's not forget one thing. The black side of the medal. After all, here the risk of unfair matches is only high. What do you think? And where's no risk? You play it, you accept the risk. Generally, it's better not to play and after the problem. Unfortunately ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.
I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into. Well, that's the rule for everything you're betting on. That's the principle to basically everything you do in your life. Either you know each other or you pretend to know each other and you don't have any of it.
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February 09, 2020, 09:40:36 PM |
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ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.
I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into. I also felt like that but later realized that it's just an excuise. You don't have to know the game or play it to bet on it. Look how many people bet on tennis without ever playing or watching the game. People bet on horse racing but they never do race, they just pick the one that has good odds or just the one they feel to be lucky.
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February 09, 2020, 09:50:20 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
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February 09, 2020, 10:25:42 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
You cant blame them and its true that those words would mainly came from people who doesnt even know about those games existence thats why they do still much preferred on betting to known sport rather than on e-sports yet we know it might sound sports but they do actually differ on the whole concept.E-sports mainly focused on games of course yet theres no such thing about virtual basketball etc. .We cant differentiate the enjoyment between real sports and with gaming.
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February 10, 2020, 07:44:22 AM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
I can understand it at the lower levels. Some random guy can beat a good team on any day,,, and when you read about the scandals of cheating like guys who purposefully lose just to get some free money,,, then you know it is not wise to bet on a team game where even 1 guy sabotaging his team can be the difference. There is a difference and why you cannot see 100x odds all the time in esports but there is in football.
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February 10, 2020, 08:25:21 AM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.
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February 10, 2020, 09:25:58 AM |
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And you guys don't think there aren't controversies on many sports? Mostly I am into DOTA2 betting. DOTA2 keeps breaking records yearly and its stake are even bigger than many other sports. I'd been a follower of many sports thru the years, especially during my early 20s. Boxing, basketball, soccer, mma and many more. I can say both are nearly the same. There are far more controversies on sports than e-sports I can say. Both have the same consequences if in case of losses. You think a bad NBA team cannot win against power house teams? You think Juventus can't lose to Verona? This is a very complicated issue and this won't end. So I would rather stop comparing them.
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ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.
I do agree with that. Better bet on the game that you know of, not only familiar but by heart you know that specific game. Your chance of winning is even higher if you know both teams competing. Because if you are only familiar with specific esports game, you don't know the weaknesses and strengths of the teams involved, which will be your blind spot. So yes, the very simple trick in this game is to know what you are getting into. I also felt like that but later realized that it's just an excuise. You don't have to know the game or play it to bet on it. Look how many people bet on tennis without ever playing or watching the game. People bet on horse racing but they never do race, they just pick the one that has good odds or just the one they feel to be lucky. You can't say it like that. Nobody plays what they never know. Unless a committed gambler who needs to be treated. I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
There's a minus for an esport The odds are smaller, or else the bookmaker's margin is higher
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In order to win in esports betting, it requires good fundamental analysis and researching skills. The player must aware about how the game works and also the traits of every team. I usually betting in Dota 2 and I often win because I always identifying the characteristics and also the level of the team plays of every team. Esports is not just game of luck, skills are also matter so we should bet carefully.
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment. We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament. Miracles happen, do they?
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February 10, 2020, 05:55:59 PM |
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In order to win in esports betting, it requires good fundamental analysis and researching skills. The player must aware about how the game works and also the traits of every team. I usually betting in Dota 2 and I often win because I always identifying the characteristics and also the level of the team plays of every team. Esports is not just game of luck, skills are also matter so we should bet carefully.
There is a big element of teamwork too, I mean there are teams who play such amazing teamwork and defeat individual geniuses. I can give you the example of recent win of Mousesports over Navi (Natus Vincere) where we all know guys like Simple, Electronic are massive giants but they failed when it came down to teamwork as we can see that Simple would get some kills but lack support from others. Kerrigan had a bad 1st map but their team still won because he as a leader did well and managed to hide personal bad timing on the game. I am a big fan of esports and personally feel like the industry still needs a lot of exposure though and then with more exposure comes the problem of match-fixing and other problems. By the way guys here is Navi vs Mouse I was talking about - https://www.hltv.org/matches/2339164/mousesports-vs-natus-vincere-ice-challenge-2020
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February 10, 2020, 06:58:54 PM |
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And you guys don't think there aren't controversies on many sports? Mostly I am into DOTA2 betting. DOTA2 keeps breaking records yearly and its stake are even bigger than many other sports. I'd been a follower of many sports thru the years, especially during my early 20s. Boxing, basketball, soccer, mma and many more. I can say both are nearly the same. There are far more controversies on sports than e-sports I can say. Both have the same consequences if in case of losses. You think a bad NBA team cannot win against power house teams? You think Juventus can't lose to Verona? This is a very complicated issue and this won't end. So I would rather stop comparing them.
Controversies have always been there and in fact I remember there was a big controversy where some players were actually mining bitcoins in their PC that they were supposed to play games ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Now coming back to point, I am huge follower of League of Legends and my personal favorite of all time is - Faker the movement god! E-sports to me has a huge future because the audience is already incredible in countries like Korea and China and it just needs more attention globally. Anyone who does not watch e-sports all I can say is that you are missing some serious fun.
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February 10, 2020, 07:00:27 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment. We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament. Miracles happen, do they? Saying that nothing can be done with fixed matches is funny. There are possibilities that anything can be done. Also, suppose that well in x years' time, every esports gamer can be observed 24 hours a day with a chip, etc., with your own consent. Unreal ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) But it would be possible ?
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February 10, 2020, 07:41:18 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports. Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners. Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting.
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February 10, 2020, 09:40:56 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports. Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners. Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting. You're right, but just a little bit. You're talking about players that we seem to know who's working with whom and how. Who else is he supposed to play with? What do you compare it with? After all, we know that a given player always plays with a given player if there are no transfers, so basically nothing changes. And you can't predict a drop in form or a bad day. There is little room for chance in escort. That's a fact. But it's not like traditional e-sport.
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February 10, 2020, 09:42:24 PM |
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I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Some games obviously aren't 50/50, so I don't know why you would even say that. Sometimes a team manages to get a couple fluke wins in a row and ends up in the finals. Sometimes players get substituted etc. In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
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