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December 20, 2018, 11:24:58 AM
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Hello. Please explain why my account was blocked. Thank you!
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December 20, 2018, 11:55:48 AM
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December 20, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
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Judging by the number of locks for plagiarism, the reason is plagiarism. But I ask you to point specifically to the post you call plagiarism. Thank you!
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December 20, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
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December 20, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
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Have a guess.

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Judging by the number of locks for plagiarism, the reason is plagiarism. But I ask you to point specifically to the post you call plagiarism. Thank you!

Why are you asking a question to which you already know the answer? You know exactly what you did so stop wasting everybody's time hoping that it might be a mistake. It's not.
You're too confident. I'm asking for proof, not water.
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?


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December 20, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?



Not that I want to start pissing off global moderators on my fav forum directly.

However.

1. why not show him the post and put him out of his misery. It also gives confidence there is fair chance of appeal and fair decision as the vast vast majority of appeals have actually demonstrated... which Is a credit to the board.

2. Do you have the power of unban? or just theymos?

3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?

If this is the case an you have power of unban - then can we introduce a paid for review system because theymos has already said we want rid of net negative scammers and spammers but some who may just have a few copy and pastes and are not financially motivated then can have a deeper review and maybe just a temp ban for few months instead. Also you could even introduce a sig ban for certain amount of time -- so they are put on a list and people can get merit for spotting them if they put them back on .... if they put the sig back on before 6mth or a year..... straight to perm ban.


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December 20, 2018, 02:18:51 PM
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?



Not that I want to start pissing off global moderators on my fav forum directly.

However.

1. why not show him the post and put him out of his misery. It also gives confidence there is fair chance of appeal and fair decision as the vast vast majority of appeals have actually demonstrated... which Is a credit to the board.

2. Do you have the power of unban? or just theymos?

3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?

If this is the case an you have power of unban - then can we introduce a paid for review system because theymos has already said we want rid of net negative scammers and spammers but some who may just have a few copy and pastes and are not financially motivated then can have a deeper review and maybe just a temp ban for few months instead. Also you could even introduce a sig ban for certain amount of time -- so they are put on a list and people can get merit for spotting them if they put them back on .... if they put the sig back on before 6mth or a year..... straight to perm ban.



1. Why waste time?

2. Theymos and someone else I believe

3. Duh

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December 20, 2018, 02:21:57 PM
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?



Not that I want to start pissing off global moderators on my fav forum directly.

However.

1. why not show him the post and put him out of his misery. It also gives confidence there is fair chance of appeal and fair decision as the vast vast majority of appeals have actually demonstrated... which Is a credit to the board.

2. Do you have the power of unban? or just theymos?

3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?



1) Why ask why they've been banned when they know what it's for. Every day it's the same. They're just hoping we've miraculously screwed up or can't find the evidence but they know what they did. I'm tired of having to waste time searching the report queue, or meta or the staff forum to find out why they've been banned when the answer is usually copy and pasting. In fact, I should be getting paid for my time that I have to waste on this, but let's make it fairer and the money goes to charity if they want to appeal. Many of them play naive but if they were asked to put some money upfront as a bond first they'll soon drop the naivety. 

2) Yes, I can unban people. I cannot reinstate accounts that are hacked/lost though.

3) No. Never heard of him.

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I'm tired of having to waste time searching the report queue, or meta or the staff forum to find out why they've been banned when the answer is usually copy and pasting.
Just wondering if it is possible to give moderators the ability to quote the  plagiarized/ copy-pasted post and save it as reference and publish it publically!

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December 20, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
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1. Why waste time?

OP uses some obfuscation techniques ("word spinning") so obviously they're fishing for info on how they got defeated. There is zero doubt that they know exactly what they did.

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December 20, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?



Not that I want to start pissing off global moderators on my fav forum directly.

However.

1. why not show him the post and put him out of his misery. It also gives confidence there is fair chance of appeal and fair decision as the vast vast majority of appeals have actually demonstrated... which Is a credit to the board.

2. Do you have the power of unban? or just theymos?

3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?



1) Why ask why they've been banned when they know what it's for. Every day it's the same. They're just hoping we've miraculously screwed up or can't find the evidence but they know what they did. I'm tired of having to waste time searching the report queue, or meta or the staff forum to find out why they've been banned when the answer is usually copy and pasting. In fact, I should be getting paid for my time that I have to waste on this, but let's make it fairer and the money goes to charity if they want to appeal. Many of them play naive but if they were asked to put some money upfront as a bond first they'll soon drop the naivety.  

2) Yes, I can unban people. I cannot reinstate accounts that are hacked/lost though.

3) No. Never heard of him.

I agree with you there should be a paid appeals process for time taken. However there would need be fair criteria set first really and a list of reduced punishments. Then only the good eggs would bother appeal. Save time and you could earn a little bit money for your time and other reviewers could to.

Well some one told me you were the same person but I thought it was unlikely due to both posting on the same meta board and due to the amount of posts on each account. Just wondering anyway.

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December 20, 2018, 03:22:00 PM
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3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?
3) No. Never heard of him.
Trolololo Cheesy

Well some one told me you were the same person but I thought it was unlikely due to both posting on the same meta board and due to the amount of posts on each account. Just wondering anyway.
Work on your spelling. After that, check those feedbacks left on the account.

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December 20, 2018, 04:01:24 PM
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3. Are you the same person as hillariousetc?
3) No. Never heard of him.
Trolololo Cheesy

Well some one told me you were the same person but I thought it was unlikely due to both posting on the same meta board and due to the amount of posts on each account. Just wondering anyway.
Work on your spelling. After that, check those feedbacks left on the account.

Don't go spelling nazi on me now.

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why present a case at trial or even tell people why they are arrested - which country were you raised out of interest?

however if this is to prevent people seeing if their text spinning algo has been defeated or how it was then I am in favour of it not being presented in public nor to them so they can work around it.

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December 20, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
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Have a guess.

Players, ready your bingo cards.
Judging by the number of locks for plagiarism, the reason is plagiarism. But I ask you to point specifically to the post you call plagiarism. Thank you!
hilarius question and answer portion. I do not really know the answer of you getting ban but because you have answer your own question then it is better now. We do not have to look for your post history to show the copy and paste of your posts. It might be embarassing also on your part if you wish to convey that you are not doing wrong or you just want to ask another chance and lift tge ban for your account.

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December 20, 2018, 06:08:35 PM
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And I'm asking for you people to stop wasting our time when you know what you did, because it's tedious. If you're so confident put your money where your mouth is. Donate what you think your account is worth to any legit charity of your choosing that accepts bitcoin and post the proof here.

Here's a legit one if you want to use them: https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/bitcoin-donations

If it's a mistake I'll personally send you your money back and unban your account. Deal?


I asked a very obvious question. In any field, if charged, evidence is provided. You say I plead guilty - on what basis do you draw this conclusion? On what you basically want to ban for plagiarism, and I know it? That's funny. I also do not sent not talking about your mouth anything. It is strange that I got instead of an answer, a portion of the negative. If you do not like your job - just quit and find a job for the soul. Thank you all who responded.
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December 20, 2018, 06:16:04 PM
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In any field, if charged, evidence is provided.
This is a discussion forum, not a court of law.  No one here, including the mods, is obligated to do anything for you.  If you're wondering about all the negative responses, it's because this situation has become so common that it's a waste of time for people to go digging for examples of plagiarism--usually it's not even the mods who do that, it's regular members and they do it on their own time.

Here's a great example of why an example of the ban offense should be provided in the ban PM.  Can it really be so hard to implement something like that?  Obviously the banning process is initiated with someone finding an incident of plagiarism, so can't this forum come up with a way to include a quote of the plagiarism?  This would obviate pestering plagiarists creating threads like this guy--and that's assuming he did indeed get banned for copy/pasting.

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December 20, 2018, 06:16:28 PM
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Odd habits for this user:

The account took a 9-month long nap from August 13, 2017 to May 26, 2018.
The account has many posts in the Indonesian board prior to the nap, but not a single one after May 26, 2018.
The account started participating in signature campaigns after May 26, 2018, and the posts became more verbose.

Anyway, here's one of the accounts copypasta:

It must undergo an objective audit, but the technology is too useful and promising to remain without attention of investors. But still I prefer to invest in younger and more promising projects like REMME.

I am sure that in the future LTC will develop steadily and grow in price. Yes, it must undergo an objective audit, but the technology is too useful and promising to remain without attention of investors. But still I prefer to invest in younger and more promising projects like REMME.


Lol, didn't notice the date are actually in smoker36's favor.

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December 20, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
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I asked a very obvious question. In any field, if charged, evidence is provided.
No, there's no obligation for this forum to provide you anything.

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Please follow your own advice and don't come back to this forum. Bye bye shitposting text spinner!

I continue to believe in the great potential for successful development of NEO in the future.

I continue to believe in the huge potential for successful development of NEO in the future.

And the best thing? That's 100 Merit you'll never earn back on any of your spamming alt accounts! See [MERIT][NSFN] We're destroying more merits than we're sending. Like, way more., the spammers will eventually run out of accounts.

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December 20, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
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Odd habits for this user:

The account took a 9-month long nap from August 13, 2017 to May 26, 2018.
The account has many posts in the Indonesian board prior to the nap, but not a single one after May 26, 2018.
The account started participating in signature campaigns after May 26, 2018, and the posts became more verbose.

Anyway, here's one of the accounts copypasta:

It must undergo an objective audit, but the technology is too useful and promising to remain without attention of investors. But still I prefer to invest in younger and more promising projects like REMME.

I am sure that in the future LTC will develop steadily and grow in price. Yes, it must undergo an objective audit, but the technology is too useful and promising to remain without attention of investors. But still I prefer to invest in younger and more promising projects like REMME.


Lol, didn't notice the date are actually in smoker36's favor.
you didn't notice that I texted May 28, 2018, 08:22:11 PM and that guy September 07, 2018 , 06:57:33 AM. Maybe he stole my words?
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