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July 27, 2019, 08:22:15 AM
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P2PB2B cannot be trusted with your crypto or your upcoming IEO / STO. I am a coin developer since 2014 and I encourage you to read the following thread before you are financially harmed by these thieves.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163367.0
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Here is the short version:

I recently purchased a large amount of Hempcoin from P2PB2B and after trying to withdraw from my fully verified account, I successfully sent a 600 Hempcoin test transaction, I then tried to withdraw my remaining balance.

The number of coins I tried to withdraw was 2.6 million (1% of the entire circulating supply)

This withdraw was delayed and showed a status of needing withdrawal from the cold wallet. This was on the 28th of June.

After waiting patiently for 3 days I contacted them through tickets, live help, and Telegram. They kept sending me the same reply on all channels "please wait". I waited another 24 hours and contacted them again, they reacted by blocking me on Telegram and disabling my ability to contact them through live help.

I reached out to Hempcoin developers, who I have known for years and work closely with, and I was informed that he was also facing a similar problem and could not withdraw his coins either.

P2PB2B then took the Hempcoin wallet offline and disabled deposits and withdrawals.

After waiting nearly two weeks I log in today to check my balance and 600k coins are missing from my balance and I receive an email saying "Hello. Due to the discovery of the sale of unauthorized coins, one of your purchase transactions in the pair THC_BTC was rolled back."

I have been a coin dev since 2014 and have had trading accounts with many of the most popular exchanges. I have never had a withdrawal delayed for 2 weeks and never had trades that I made rolled back by an exchange because they don't have the balance to cover their trades.

I am accusing this exchange of theft, wash trading, and selling assets that they do not even own. Has anyone else experienced issues with these guys?

After a more thorough investigation with other Hempcoin users, it appears that this may be a matter of technical incompetence that has put users funds at risk.

From what I have seen it appears that P2PB2B made a technical error with regards to the staking feature and have been sending free Hempcoins to users. Some of these users withdrew their free coins or sold them for BTC and now due to complete incompetence on their end they do not have the balance to cover legitimate pending withdrawals.

Instead of eating these losses due to their own incompetent tech team, they have decided to rollback legitimate trades from parties not involved in this tech error and canceling their orders from 2.5 weeks ago.

Additionally, instead of admitting their mistake, they have pretended that a fraudulent transaction took place. Here is their response to my support ticket.

"One of your buy orders from 2019-06-14 20:27:17 THC_BTC amounting to 565 343 THC was reverted in order to help you to avoid any financial losses. We discovered that THC`s, which the seller sold you during this deal, were obtained in a result of fraud. The amount of BTC you spent for this deal was credited to your account."

A quick check of any Hempcoin holders deposit history on P2PB2B will clearly show free coins being deposited over the last few months (appears to be from May 20th to June 2nd) and will look something like this.

Code:
Jun 2, 2019, 11:40:02
THC
6257.9
transactionStatuses.16
Jun 1, 2019, 15:05:02
THC
1568.4
transactionStatuses.16
Jun 1, 2019, 02:40:03
THC
1574.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 31, 2019, 13:50:02
THC
1568.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 31, 2019, 06:10:02
THC
1573
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 22:35:03
THC
3134.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 11:50:03
THC
1573.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 05:35:02
THC
3136.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 02:20:02
THC
1567
transactionStatuses.16
May 29, 2019, 21:05:02
THC
1572.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 28, 2019, 16:55:01
THC
3129.6
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 18:15:02
THC
1570.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 16:05:02
THC
790.4
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 08:10:03
THC
1568.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 01:20:02
THC
3135.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 01:20:02
THC
3134.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 22:40:02
THC
3133.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 16:55:02
THC
3131.7
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 13:45:02
THC
1567.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 21:50:02
THC
6256.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 17:25:03
THC
3130.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 06:30:02
THC
6255.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 00:30:02
THC
3132.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 20:05:02
THC
6261
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 19:20:02
THC
3136.4
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 10:55:02
THC
6260
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 02:15:02
THC
12507.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 12:45:02
THC
6262
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 11:40:02
THC
12509.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 10:40:01
THC
6258.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 07:40:02
THC
12511.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 22, 2019, 13:25:02
THC
12505
transactionStatuses.16
May 22, 2019, 12:10:03
THC
25009.6
transactionStatuses.16
May 20, 2019, 22:35:01
THC
25005.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 20, 2019, 11:15:03
THC
50006.4
transactionStatuses.16
Mar 29, 2019, 19:40:02
THC
20000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 11:30:03
THC
100000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 09:50:01
THC
50000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 09:25:02
THC
500
Successful


To display this level of technical incompetence is a massive issue itself for any exchange.

To then lie to your users and try to cover your mistake instead of taking responsibility for your actions is shameful and it is no wonder they are using a Belize and Seychelles setup for the incorporation of their business. Only companies looking to avoid lawsuits or legal action would set up this type of infrastructure.

P2PB2B are incompetent from a technical and security standpoint and also lack the integrity and business ethics to handle other peoples money in my opinion.

To clarify* My account was never sent any free Hempcoins and my trades and attempted withdrawal are 100% legitimate and accurate. I did not even create an account with P2PB2B until June 12th and have nothing to do with these technical issues.

Update:  

Here is what this exchange had to say after leaving me waiting for 1.5 months without any sort of explanation except to "please wait we are working on it"

Good afternoon.

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey with the seller on July 9, 2019 and today we performed the same procedure with the other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and ready for withdrawal at any time.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused.


Here is my response and the truth

This is a complete lie and I am completely shocked that you would make this public statement.

I deposited btc onto your exchange and bought 2.6 million hempcoin over a month and a half ago. I was not allowed to withdraw these funds, and asked for support for over a month.

It was discovered that your team made a mistake and sent free hempcoins to users around 3-4 months ago (nothing to do with me) and were not able to cover legitimate trades like my own and your solution is to pretend that some sort of fraud took place?  You instead fully lie and say that these coins were "acquired in a non-legal way"  What are you talking about? You made a tech error, it was your mistake and fault, nothing illegal?

Your solution is to completely roll back all of my trades on p2p2b2 from over a month ago and just refund me my btc?? The price is already 3 times what I bought my coins for?

I lost tens of thousands of dollars because of these actions and your fraudulent behavior. Do not use P2PB2B, you will get scammed. They are technically incompetent and will steal your money and provide you with 0 support.

They are listing every garbage project as quickly as they possibly can and collecting BTC while offering "market-making" for new projects, which is wash trading and 100% illegal, how do I know? Because I was in discussion with them about listing our coin several months ago and was offered this service.

I challenge you P2PB2B to respond to these allegations and provide the community with a detailed account of your version of events. Lying and pretending that some sort of fraud took place instead of admitting that you had a tech error is 100% bogus and any attempt to continue along this narrative will be met with additional evidence.

I know you sent emails to people who received free Hempcoins because of your technical error demanding they return funds or you would block their account or take from existing balances, I also know about the conversations you had trying to buy 5 million coins on a side deal to fix your mistake. Now you're saying there was some sort of fraud?

This is your opportunity to come clean, admit your mistake, and make amends to the community.

Awaiting your response...


And yes, you can block me on Telegram and Twitter for asking these questions and providing this evidence but you cannot block me here. This problem is not going away.

This is obviously not the type of customer service you deserve and these thieves should not be trusted with your money.

Do not use this exchange. I have been around since 2014 and used most of the popular exchanges out there. I have never seen anything like this. They have no problem lying to the public and making false statements. Be very careful.

They are lying about their trade volume
They are lying to their customers
They are lying about technical issues
They are lying about their affiliation with Coinsbit

What else?
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The fact that they are openly lying confirms that this is a scam exchange. I would advise all forum members to withdraw their funds from this exchange immediately & tag appropriately - all flags legitimate.

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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The fact that they are openly lying confirms that this is a scam exchange. I would advise all forum members to withdraw their funds from this exchange immediately & tag appropriately - all flags legitimate.

The actions of this organization completely lacks any sort of business ethics.

They have no problem lying and stealing from their users and take 0 responsibility for the mistakes that they clearly made. This is the complete opposite of exchanges like Binance who take responsibility and accept financial losses for their mistakes or security breaches.

P2PB2B has no problem being completely dishonest and making users pay for their mistakes while providing 0 explanation for their actions and what's even worse is they publicly lie about the situation. This is shameful behavior and must be illegal, it's only a matter of time before you see class action lawsuits coming their way.

You might also notice they conveniently avoided this question on the previous page of this thread.

Please understand that we are a regulated licensed institution and are bound by very strict AML/CFT regulation, internal compliance/AML procedures.

In which country are you licensed & what body are you regulated by?

Please post links to the relevent institutions so that customers can verify your licence credentials, ownership details & business address.

Thanks.

Well P2PB2B? We are waiting?
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July 27, 2019, 10:52:17 AM
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The fact that they are openly lying confirms that this is a scam exchange. I would advise all forum members to withdraw their funds from this exchange immediately & tag appropriately - all flags legitimate.
Thank you for leaving negative feedback for most of those 8 sock-puppet recently purchased accounts that have flooded the Coinsbit thread. Pages 47 and 48 show their "replies" to each other and show exactly how pathetic those imbeciles are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4971628.920


The actions of this organization completely lacks any sort of business ethics.
They have no problem lying and stealing from their users and take 0 responsibility for the mistakes that they clearly made. This is the complete opposite of exchanges like Binance who take responsibility and accept financial losses for their mistakes or security breaches.

P2PB2B has no problem being completely dishonest and making users pay for their mistakes while providing 0 explanation for their actions and what's even worse is they publicly lie about the situation. This is shameful behavior and must be illegal, it's only a matter of time before you see class action lawsuits coming their way.

Thank you for posting these threads to make clear you completely reject the version of events (lies) that p2pb2b put out trying to shift the blame on to third parties when they get caught out.

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Here is my full story regarding p2pb2b and account block without any explanation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166605.0

Hello, konungbarber.

Hope you are doing great as well.

Your account was blocked because of suspicious activity in the time of user's complaints about 2FA shutdown. Account is unlocked now because no violations were found. As apologies for long waiting, your trading fee will be lower for three months.
Hello.

Yes, I can confirm that account was unblocked.

So sad it took 3+ weeks and "red flag" here to solve this issue.

P.S. My 2FA was active when I've logged in after account unblock.
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Here is my full story regarding p2pb2b and account block without any explanation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166605.0

Hello, konungbarber.

Hope you are doing great as well.

Your account was blocked because of suspicious activity in the time of user's complaints about 2FA shutdown. Account is unlocked now because no violations were found. As apologies for long waiting, your trading fee will be lower for three months.
Hello.

Yes, I can confirm that account was unblocked.

So sad it took 3+ weeks and "red flag" here to solve this issue.

P.S. My 2FA was active when I've logged in after account unblock.


I would go a step further.

It seems clear they intended to selective scam you but only backed down and gave access to your account after you sparked a massive backlash against the scammers and all my warnings about Coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers going back nearly a year have been proven to be accurate but users are only catching on now...

Please withdraw all your funds from that scam p2pb2b exchange and move them to other wallets.

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You might also notice they conveniently avoided this question on the previous page of this thread.

Please understand that we are a regulated licensed institution and are bound by very strict AML/CFT regulation, internal compliance/AML procedures.

In which country are you licensed & what body are you regulated by?

Please post links to the relevent institutions so that customers can verify your licence credentials, ownership details & business address.

Thanks.

Well P2PB2B? We are waiting?

The account p2pb2b.io hasn't logged in since I asked the question, so I suppose we can give them a few more days to answer. If they don't answer - then we will know the truth.

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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The account p2pb2b.io hasn't logged in since I asked the question, so I suppose we can give them a few more days to answer. If they don't answer - then we will know the truth.


Maybe they will be kind enough to answer the following:


1) What is the real connection between Coinbit and p2pb2b

2) Why their much touted "Headquarters" is a mailing address that houses over 800 other companies that use the same 3rd floor office address to impress and fool their respective users:
https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/w1u-6tu

3) Why the company that is registered in London, UK (PARTIDA TECHNOLOGIES LLP company number OC427053 3rd Floor, 120 Baker Street, London, England, W1U 6TU) is owned by offshore companies in Belize and Seychelles

4) Why p2pb2b are sending fake data to Coinmarketcap because they claimed to process $85 MILLION in previous 24hr volume at the time of writing this post which equates to $31 BILLION minimum income over the year yet a few days ago was claiming $167 MILLION a day and $60 BILLION income over the year



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I'd like to add one simple question to the AMA:

1/ How many people involved in p2pb2b/coinbits project or this is solely Solodovnik's adventure?
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I'd like to add one simple question to the AMA:

1/ How many people involved in p2pb2b/coinbits project or this is solely Solodovnik's adventure?


I think they will refuse to answer your question and will continue to lie by denying the Coinsbit and p2pb2b connection.

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I'd like to add one simple question to the AMA:

1/ How many people involved in p2pb2b/coinbits project or this is solely Solodovnik's adventure?


I think they will refuse to answer your question and will continue to lie by denying the Coinsbit and p2pb2b connection.

Latest post of p2pb2b user here is from 26.Jully. Even if they do not post anything, he still online yesterday (29.Jully). So they read all discussions here but no sounds and explanation to any of accusation. It can be a serious exchange/service if they can't hire one person to manage communication with users.
I am not sure about the connection between Coinsbit and p2pb2b but they did nothing to prove otherwise.

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I'd like to add one simple question to the AMA:

1/ How many people involved in p2pb2b/coinbits project or this is solely Solodovnik's adventure?


I think they will refuse to answer your question and will continue to lie by denying the Coinsbit and p2pb2b connection.

Latest post of p2pb2b user here is from 26.Jully. Even if they do not post anything, he still online yesterday (29.Jully). So they read all discussions here but no sounds and explanation to any of accusation. It can be a serious exchange/service if they can't hire one person to manage communication with users.
I am not sure about the connection between Coinsbit and p2pb2b but they did nothing to prove otherwise.



Thank you for the post examplens.

p2pb2b have already stated they used to be part of the same team but are no longer yet they update their websites at the same time.

If (and this is a BIG if) the p2pb2b scammers really are having annual gross incomes of over $60 BILLION then even 0.5% of that being commission based profit would be $300 MILLION pre-tax income and even a miserly commission of just 0.05% would mean $30 MILLION pre-tax income yet they use the same website as Coinsbit and became active towards the end of last year just as Coinsbit did.

Both started promoting IEOs at the same time.

Both are vastly over-inflating their volumes and sending to Coinmarketcap in the hope of pulling in new customers.

The most important thing is if they were a real exchange and really disassociated from Coinsbit they would ensure they left no clues behind.


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I'd like to add one simple question to the AMA:

1/ How many people involved in p2pb2b/coinbits project or this is solely Solodovnik's adventure?


I think they will refuse to answer your question and will continue to lie by denying the Coinsbit and p2pb2b connection.

Latest post of p2pb2b user here is from 26.Jully. Even if they do not post anything, he still online yesterday (29.Jully). So they read all discussions here but no sounds and explanation to any of accusation. It can be a serious exchange/service if they can't hire one person to manage communication with users.
I am not sure about the connection between Coinsbit and p2pb2b but they did nothing to prove otherwise.



Thank you for the post examplens.

p2pb2b have already stated they used to be part of the same team but are no longer yet they update their websites at the same time.

If (and this is a BIG if) the p2pb2b scammers really are having annual gross incomes of over $60 BILLION then even 0.5% of that being commission based profit would be $300 MILLION pre-tax income and even a miserly commission of just 0.05% would mean $30 MILLION pre-tax income yet they use the same website as Coinsbit and became active towards the end of last year just as Coinsbit did.

Both started promoting IEOs at the same time.

Both are vastly over-inflating their volumes and sending to Coinmarketcap in the hope of pulling in new customers.

The most important thing is if they were a real exchange and really disassociated from Coinsbit they would ensure they left no clues behind.



I can confirm fake trade volume for Dogecoin there. I know because I try to trade there with them.
There are open orders less than 0.5 BTC even if they say "Volume 24h: 33.534 BTC / 115637026 DOGE". I am not sure that is possible with such a small quantity of this coin. Also, it's not possible to withdraw this coin

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Last edit: July 30, 2019, 09:18:18 PM by JollyGood
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I can confirm fake trade volume for Dogecoin there. I know because I try to trade there with them.
There are open orders less than 0.5 BTC even if they say "Volume 24h: 33.534 BTC / 115637026 DOGE". I am not sure that is possible with such a small quantity of this coin. Also, it's not possible to withdraw this coin

Thank you for bringing that to the attention of the forum.

What amazes me is the fact they must file their company annual taxation accounts at some point. Now if they file their company accounts using the inflated fake figures then they must pay tax accordingly for those figures in that accounts period. They are not able to pay taxation on incomes of over $60 BILLION so they should not be inflating their figure now.

If they use the "real" figures and file those then it becomes available publicly so for example if they had annual income from trading fees at $200,000 in official documents but shows $60 BILLION on Coinmarketcap then they would look even more foolish than they do now.

Their p2pb2b and coinsbit websites have next to no traffic so I would be surprised if their true figures were even over $10,000 a month combined for both scam websites:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbit/
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io

The reason why they are blocking withdrawal for so many coins is because they have stolen those funds and invested by converting to other crypto in the hope of making a profit and then returning those funds back or simply to selectively scam customers.

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The OP p2pb2b.io last logged in on 29th July 2019 - so it is safe to say he has stopped checking the posts here and simply given up - for now at least.

As a community we got together and we busted the coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers.

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The OP p2pb2b.io last logged in on 29th July 2019 - so it is safe to say he has stopped checking the posts here and simply given up - for now at least.

As a community we got together and we busted the coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers.

A very big thank you to all that helped beat these scammers

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Maybe you are right, but it is only here on Bitcointalk. They are still in the business, listed on CMC and still called "cryptocurrency exchange". Many people will not come here and read the user experience with this exchange.
I mean, it is the biggest problem that this one exchange and because of that we can read almost every day new scam accusation about similar shady service.

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The OP p2pb2b.io last logged in on 29th July 2019 - so it is safe to say he has stopped checking the posts here and simply given up - for now at least.

As a community we got together and we busted the coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers.

A very big thank you to all that helped beat these scammers

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Maybe you are right, but it is only here on Bitcointalk. They are still in the business, listed on CMC and still called "cryptocurrency exchange". Many people will not come here and read the user experience with this exchange.
I mean, it is the biggest problem that this one exchange and because of that we can read almost every day new scam accusation about similar shady service.


You are absolutely right, unfortunately the coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers are still in business and still have potential to scam but thankfully it will be low-level scams. As you mentioned earlier, the 0.5 BTC orders for Dogecoin are still unfulfilled because hardly anybody is using the exchange. They are simply inflating their figures to show they traded a whopping 33+ BTC daily volume on Dogecoin but they probably traded less than a few thousands Doge if that.

Look at the way they are relentlessly pumping the coinsbit thread. Page 21 onwards is nothing but 9 sock-puppets pumping and me countering their fake buzz attempts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4971628.0

Even if we manage to save just a handful of gullible investors or newbies from investing in coinsbit and p2pb2b after they read these threads then as a community we tried our best and succeeded with the limits we have. If potential victims stumble across these threads after using a search engine then we did our best as community members.

I am so happy that as a community we got together and exposed these scammers

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Here is the short version:

I recently purchased a large amount of Hempcoin from P2PB2B and after trying to withdraw from my fully verified account, I successfully sent a 600 Hempcoin test transaction, I then tried to withdraw my remaining balance.

The number of coins I tried to withdraw was 2.6 million (1% of the entire circulating supply)

This withdraw was delayed and showed a status of needing withdrawal from the cold wallet. This was on the 28th of June.

After waiting patiently for 3 days I contacted them through tickets, live help, and Telegram. They kept sending me the same reply on all channels "please wait". I waited another 24 hours and contacted them again, they reacted by blocking me on Telegram and disabling my ability to contact them through live help.

I reached out to Hempcoin developers, who I have known for years and work closely with, and I was informed that he was also facing a similar problem and could not withdraw his coins either.

P2PB2B then took the Hempcoin wallet offline and disabled deposits and withdrawals.

After waiting nearly two weeks I log in today to check my balance and 600k coins are missing from my balance and I receive an email saying "Hello. Due to the discovery of the sale of unauthorized coins, one of your purchase transactions in the pair THC_BTC was rolled back."

I have been a coin dev since 2014 and have had trading accounts with many of the most popular exchanges. I have never had a withdrawal delayed for 2 weeks and never had trades that I made rolled back by an exchange because they don't have the balance to cover their trades.

I am accusing this exchange of theft, wash trading, and selling assets that they do not even own. Has anyone else experienced issues with these guys?

After a more thorough investigation with other Hempcoin users, it appears that this may be a matter of technical incompetence that has put users funds at risk.

From what I have seen it appears that P2PB2B made a technical error with regards to the staking feature and have been sending free Hempcoins to users. Some of these users withdrew their free coins or sold them for BTC and now due to complete incompetence on their end they do not have the balance to cover legitimate pending withdrawals.

Instead of eating these losses due to their own incompetent tech team, they have decided to rollback legitimate trades from parties not involved in this tech error and canceling their orders from 2.5 weeks ago.

Additionally, instead of admitting their mistake, they have pretended that a fraudulent transaction took place. Here is their response to my support ticket.

"One of your buy orders from 2019-06-14 20:27:17 THC_BTC amounting to 565 343 THC was reverted in order to help you to avoid any financial losses. We discovered that THC`s, which the seller sold you during this deal, were obtained in a result of fraud. The amount of BTC you spent for this deal was credited to your account."

A quick check of any Hempcoin holders deposit history on P2PB2B will clearly show free coins being deposited over the last few months (appears to be from May 20th to June 2nd) and will look something like this.

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Jun 2, 2019, 11:40:02
THC
6257.9
transactionStatuses.16
Jun 1, 2019, 15:05:02
THC
1568.4
transactionStatuses.16
Jun 1, 2019, 02:40:03
THC
1574.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 31, 2019, 13:50:02
THC
1568.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 31, 2019, 06:10:02
THC
1573
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 22:35:03
THC
3134.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 11:50:03
THC
1573.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 05:35:02
THC
3136.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 30, 2019, 02:20:02
THC
1567
transactionStatuses.16
May 29, 2019, 21:05:02
THC
1572.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 28, 2019, 16:55:01
THC
3129.6
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 18:15:02
THC
1570.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 16:05:02
THC
790.4
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 08:10:03
THC
1568.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 01:20:02
THC
3135.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 27, 2019, 01:20:02
THC
3134.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 22:40:02
THC
3133.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 16:55:02
THC
3131.7
transactionStatuses.16
May 26, 2019, 13:45:02
THC
1567.3
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 21:50:02
THC
6256.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 17:25:03
THC
3130.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 06:30:02
THC
6255.8
transactionStatuses.16
May 25, 2019, 00:30:02
THC
3132.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 20:05:02
THC
6261
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 19:20:02
THC
3136.4
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 10:55:02
THC
6260
transactionStatuses.16
May 24, 2019, 02:15:02
THC
12507.1
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 12:45:02
THC
6262
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 11:40:02
THC
12509.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 10:40:01
THC
6258.9
transactionStatuses.16
May 23, 2019, 07:40:02
THC
12511.2
transactionStatuses.16
May 22, 2019, 13:25:02
THC
12505
transactionStatuses.16
May 22, 2019, 12:10:03
THC
25009.6
transactionStatuses.16
May 20, 2019, 22:35:01
THC
25005.5
transactionStatuses.16
May 20, 2019, 11:15:03
THC
50006.4
transactionStatuses.16
Mar 29, 2019, 19:40:02
THC
20000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 11:30:03
THC
100000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 09:50:01
THC
50000
Successful
Jan 31, 2019, 09:25:02
THC
500
Successful


To display this level of technical incompetence is a massive issue itself for any exchange.

To then lie to your users and try to cover your mistake instead of taking responsibility for your actions is shameful and it is no wonder they are using a Belize and Seychelles setup for the incorporation of their business. Only companies looking to avoid lawsuits or legal action would set up this type of infrastructure.

P2PB2B are incompetent from a technical and security standpoint and also lack the integrity and business ethics to handle other peoples money in my opinion.

To clarify* My account was never sent any free Hempcoins and my trades and attempted withdrawal are 100% legitimate and accurate. I did not even create an account with P2PB2B until June 12th and have nothing to do with these technical issues.

Update:  

Here is what this exchange had to say after leaving me waiting for 1.5 months without any sort of explanation except to "please wait we are working on it"

Good afternoon.

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey with the seller on July 9, 2019 and today we performed the same procedure with the other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and ready for withdrawal at any time.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused.


Here is my response and the truth

This is a complete lie and I am completely shocked that you would make this public statement.

I deposited btc onto your exchange and bought 2.6 million hempcoin over a month and a half ago. I was not allowed to withdraw these funds, and asked for support for over a month.

It was discovered that your team made a mistake and sent free hempcoins to users around 3-4 months ago (nothing to do with me) and were not able to cover legitimate trades like my own and your solution is to pretend that some sort of fraud took place?  You instead fully lie and say that these coins were "acquired in a non-legal way"  What are you talking about? You made a tech error, it was your mistake and fault, nothing illegal?

Your solution is to completely roll back all of my trades on p2p2b2 from over a month ago and just refund me my btc?? The price is already 3 times what I bought my coins for?

I lost tens of thousands of dollars because of these actions and your fraudulent behavior. Do not use P2PB2B, you will get scammed. They are technically incompetent and will steal your money and provide you with 0 support.

They are listing every garbage project as quickly as they possibly can and collecting BTC while offering "market-making" for new projects, which is wash trading and 100% illegal, how do I know? Because I was in discussion with them about listing our coin several months ago and was offered this service.

I challenge you P2PB2B to respond to these allegations and provide the community with a detailed account of your version of events. Lying and pretending that some sort of fraud took place instead of admitting that you had a tech error is 100% bogus and any attempt to continue along this narrative will be met with additional evidence.

I know you sent emails to people who received free Hempcoins because of your technical error demanding they return funds or you would block their account or take from existing balances, I also know about the conversations you had trying to buy 5 million coins on a side deal to fix your mistake. Now you're saying there was some sort of fraud?

This is your opportunity to come clean, admit your mistake, and make amends to the community.

Awaiting your response...


And yes, you can block me on Telegram and Twitter for asking these questions and providing this evidence but you cannot block me here. This problem is not going away.

This is obviously not the type of customer service you deserve and these thieves should not be trusted with your money.

Do not use this exchange. I have been around since 2014 and used most of the popular exchanges out there. I have never seen anything like this. They have no problem lying to the public and making false statements. Be very careful.

They are lying about their trade volume
They are lying to their customers
They are lying about technical issues
They are lying about their affiliation with Coinsbit

What else?


After being ripped off by these guys and having them reverse my legitimate trades from 2 months ago because they could not cover my altcoin balance, I have been trying to withdraw the bitcoin they refunded me.

I have not been successful and cannot complete the withdraw because confirmation emails stopped being sent to me. I have opened a live ticket and sent screenshots to support@p2pb2b.com like they requested and still no help and no ability to withdraw my funds.

This is by far the worst exchange I have ever used. What a complete waste of time, loss of money, and source of frustration.

To recap:

I joined this exchange 2 months ago and bought 1% of the total supply of hempcoin 1.5 months before their fork to Komodo.
I tried to withdraw these funds for 1.5 months without success and after no support whatsoever I was told that my trades from 2 months ago would be reversed because they cannot cover my legit trade balances.
They reverse all of my trades and refund my btc (opportunity for investment lost) and now they are not allowing me to withdraw my btc.
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Do not use this exchange. I have been around since 2014 and used most of the popular exchanges out there. I have never seen anything like this. They have no problem lying to the public and making false statements. Be very careful.

They are lying about their trade volume
They are lying to their customers
They are lying about technical issues
They are lying about their affiliation with Coinsbit

What else?


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After being ripped off by these guys and having them reverse my legitimate trades from 2 months ago because they could not cover my altcoin balance, I have been trying to withdraw the bitcoin they refunded me.

I have not been successful and cannot complete the withdraw because confirmation emails stopped being sent to me. I have opened a live ticket and sent screenshots to support@p2pb2b.com like they requested and still no help and no ability to withdraw my funds.

This is by far the worst exchange I have ever used. What a complete waste of time, loss of money, and source of frustration.

To recap:

I joined this exchange 2 months ago and bought 1% of the total supply of hempcoin 1.5 months before their fork to Komodo.
I tried to withdraw these funds for 1.5 months without success and after no support whatsoever I was told that my trades from 2 months ago would be reversed because they cannot cover my legit trade balances.
They reverse all of my trades and refund my btc (opportunity for investment lost) and now they are not allowing me to withdraw my btc.


Sorry to read about those Hempcoin now being calculated at 3x more in value than when made your first purchase from the p2pb2b scammers. You lost a potential thousands of USD$

On a slightly different note, it is clear that criminals and scammers know no bounds but they do have similar traits. For example serial scammer Dean Nolan who is behind the betking scam also made a technical miscalculation during the 2018 Christmas wager contest. He also refused to pay out over 20 BTC +EV that was won legitimately by players. Instead he decided to cancel all winnings and refunded the bets placed then posted in this forum claiming he deserved praise for being honest. The hypocrisy and irony would have been laughable had matters not been so serious.

It seems so obvious they have made a massive error by sending their freebie Hempcoins to users and those emails you unearthed showing they were asking for those Hempcoins back other users were threatened with have funds or accounts frozen - clearly show the coinsbit and p2pb2b scammers tried to cover this up and blamed the issue on those coins being obtained using "non-legal way" by the seller. Pathetic.

They hoped to keep their scam going with being noticed and by laying low but their victims are stepping up and confronting them here. Yes you are right, users including you have been banned from their Telegram but this forum is a place they cannot silence.

I hope the scammer team behind coinsbit and p2pb2b will be put in jail after they are investigated for fraud.

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