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Threat to inflict bodily harm targeting BTT  community member has been found here. From the side of mr.pacy.mf that is a clear violation of  rule number 8  and must be considered as unacceptable  and  be not tolerated by forum administration.  Angry








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December 23, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
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I don't see any threat to inflict bodily harm. Am I missing something? All I see is an insult, "ugly" and a location "Serbia".

I stand corrected, I was reading it incorrectly; very incorrectly! He is talking about finding someone in Serbia and making a "correction" to their face. Sounds like a physical threat and I apologize for comprehending that incorrectly the first time around. Although, I would say that is less explicit than the moderators/staff might like for an actionable offense; I don't see this happening very often around here so I'm unsure of exactly where that line is.
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December 23, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
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Yes, I'm sure that what they are implying is that they want to treat the person with an ugly face to a makeover.  Roll Eyes


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Yes, I'm sure that what they are implying is that they want to treat the person with an ugly face to a makeover.  Roll Eyes

That's the problem though, if he explicitly said
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can find you and make some makeover to your ugly face
would you then see it as a more acceptable statement? A bad joke and a threat can come across similarly on the internet. The problem is with the reasonable doubt planted within the statement, which very well may have been the ham-fisted purpose of the wording. I'm not condoning this kind of rhetoric, but whether he meant makeover, surgery or physical harm doesn't seem clear. For this reason, I'm completely clueless how it will be interpreted in relation to the rules/guidelines.
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December 23, 2018, 05:03:43 PM
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I'm not quite certain of the context of the message though. Is the person who posted it associated in any way with "the very rich serbians." Otherwise, it's equivalent to someone speculating what another party may do.

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December 23, 2018, 05:06:23 PM
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From the link you posted I think the individual is annoyed with the project being a lie and still come again with more lie well there is nothing you can hold against him he never used any threat words except you are reading other meanings to it

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Yes, I'm sure that what they are implying is that they want to treat the person with an ugly face to a makeover.  Roll Eyes

That's the problem though, if he explicitly said
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can find you and make some makeover to your ugly face
would you then see it as a more acceptable statement? A bad joke and a threat can come across similarly on the internet. The problem is with the reasonable doubt planted within the statement, which very well may have been the ham-fisted purpose of the wording. I'm not condoning this kind of rhetoric, but whether he meant makeover, surgery or physical harm doesn't seem clear. For this reason, I'm completely clueless how it will be interpreted in relation to the rules/guidelines.


Any correction to the face, even makeover or surgery, made against his will is a harm for person.  In that case a member of btt community is being directly and overtly threatened.



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December 23, 2018, 06:15:54 PM
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I agree with that, but they said that they can, not that they will or have any plans to do so. Offering somebody a makeover is not a threat, or simply stating that you have the capability to do something is not stating that you will. I'm genuinely not trying to justify this guy saying what seems to be a veiled threat, but sometimes you want to see something so badly that you fool yourself into thinking it is there.

I would put this user on your ignore list, document the incident as you have and then move on. People are big talk on the internet and more often than not it is somebody being emotionally immature.
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December 23, 2018, 06:22:31 PM
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The rules are unofficial. I think it’s there as a preventative thing rather than something definitive. It’s up to mods discretion.
I’m not sure there’s much to the mods on protocols on dealing with this stuff. Implying a threat is still a threat though.

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I agree with that, but they said that they can, not that they will or have any plans to do so. Offering somebody a makeover is not a threat, or simply stating that you have the capability to do something is not stating that you will. I'm genuinely not trying to justify this guy saying what seems to be a veiled threat, but sometimes you want to see something so badly that you fool yourself into thinking it is there.

I would put this user on your ignore list, document the incident as you have and then move on. People are big talk on the internet and more often than not it is somebody being emotionally immature.

Case has been reported to thread moderator,   he can inquire more closely into this.



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I agree with that, but they said that they can, not that they will or have any plans to do so. Offering somebody a makeover is not a threat, or simply stating that you have the capability to do something is not stating that you will. I'm genuinely not trying to justify this guy saying what seems to be a veiled threat, but sometimes you want to see something so badly that you fool yourself into thinking it is there.

I would put this user on your ignore list, document the incident as you have and then move on. People are big talk on the internet and more often than not it is somebody being emotionally immature.

Case has been reported to threadt moderator,   he can inquire more closely into this.

FTFY!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

It doesn't look like a serious threat to me. Plus maybe, even if serious, it is just an advice.

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It wasn't even a threat, he said other people may do a correction.  As stated before a correction could mean plastic surgery or a makeover, it doesn't necessarily mean harm.
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I think it's a bit serious cos the member who issued the threat claims that some certain individuals(very rich per se)despite the anonymity the forum affords us can find the other party.
And what they are going to do to him, only God knows what sort of makeover it's going to be
This to me is serious,and should be treated as such
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In my observation, I think that there was a misunderstanding here.

From the original thread, It seems like that the "very rich guys from Serbia" quote is based from the other party's depiction of the card manufacturers who insisted on not giving a refund.
And his statement: "can find you and make......" was his response to the question with same meaning: "Why don't you report it yourself, can't show your face to the public?" making the quoted part not pertaining to himself.

Thus, it isn't a threat.

Disclaimer: That's what I saw after shortly reading the text battle, I could be wrong.

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I'm not quite certain of the context of the message though. Is the person who posted it associated in any way with "the very rich serbians." Otherwise, it's equivalent to someone speculating what another party may do.
That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't read the context of that thread and don't plan to.  If mr.pacy.mf was being referred to as a rich Serbian and was therefore talking about himself in that quote, then I'd definitely see the response as at least being aggressive and maybe going so far as to characterize it as a threat of bodily harm. 

But it just came off to me as just an internet dog barking--talking tough but no one's in real danger.  If mr.pacy.mf is not one of the rich Serbians, then it's not a threat at all.  That'd be like me (not affiliated with organized crime) saying "remember, the Mafia can find you and send Luca Brasi to fix your kneecaps".

It'd be nice to hear from mr.pacy.mf on this one.

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Pertaining post has been deleted by forum moderator. So he took the case seriously and considered the relevant  message as a threat.  Think he must move further and take adequate  action  to prevent community members from threats posed by mr.pacy.mf .

Edited: I went ahead and did small research on  mr.pacy.mf history. As expected another threat posed by him  has been found.


Reported to moderator.



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December 24, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
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Pertaining post has been deleted by forum moderator. So he took the case seriously and considered the relevant  message as a threat.  Think he must move further and take adequate  action  to prevent community members from threats posed by mr.pacy.mf .

It could have been deleted because it's off topic. That doesn't mean you shouldn't report those posts - serious threat or not, it's not appropriate for the discussion.

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December 25, 2018, 02:32:08 AM
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This IMO isn't more than a normal forum troll and it goes on in most boards of the forum,paying more than normal attention to it actually escalates it and makes it more serious than it actually ought to be or intended to be by the poster.
But just so things would remain sane it's always best to report such posts so they'll be trashed by a MOD
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Reported to moderator.
That's more alarming than OP's post. I think he do not deserve a report, a ban does. I don't think that his message is not a simple troll, I have a gut-feel that it's way more than that Sad. Yeah! I know the fact that everybody's identity here are hidden but if I were his enemy I will be scared too because receiving a threat is not a joke.

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December 26, 2018, 02:26:43 PM
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That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't read the context of that thread and don't plan to.  If mr.pacy.mf was being referred to as a rich Serbian and was therefore talking about himself in that quote, then I'd definitely see the response as at least being aggressive and maybe going so far as to characterize it as a threat of bodily harm. 

But it just came off to me as just an internet dog barking--talking tough but no one's in real danger.  If mr.pacy.mf is not one of the rich Serbians, then it's not a threat at all.  That'd be like me (not affiliated with organized crime) saying "remember, the Mafia can find you and send Luca Brasi to fix your kneecaps".

It'd be nice to hear from mr.pacy.mf on this one.

I see his post as a threat to another forum member, literally means that he or his rich friends can find someone and make some corrections to his ugly face with the intention to make it even more uglier. I think he think on user TeMHuK, since he post some very nice words to him in several posts.

this is what employees in minexsystem think about you ...

so Cover your empty, stupid, ugly head with a blanket in your room and keep calm for a bit ....  Grin  Grin  Grin

I am also sure mr.pacy.mf is Serbian, he post in that language :

Borise jebem li ti pleme zalno ja ono lopovsko ,prevarantsko.....CRKO DABOGDA

But we can also put this in just one more internet dog barking case, some say that dogs that bark do not bite, and this one is only barking in front of his PC (for now).

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