Threats to inflict bodily harm

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[bill gator]

I don't see any threat to inflict bodily harm. Am I missing something? All I see is an insult, "ugly" and a location "Serbia".

I stand corrected, I was reading it incorrectly; very incorrectly! He is talking about finding someone in Serbia and making a "correction" to their face. Sounds like a physical threat and I apologize for comprehending that incorrectly the first time around. Although, I would say that is less explicit than the moderators/staff might like for an actionable offense; I don't see this happening very often around here so I'm unsure of exactly where that line is.

[bones261]

Yes, I'm sure that what they are implying is that they want to treat the person with an ugly face to a makeover.  

[bill gator]

Yes, I'm sure that what they are implying is that they want to treat the person with an ugly face to a makeover.  

That's the problem though, if he explicitly said

can find you and make some makeover to your ugly face

would you then see it as a more acceptable statement? A bad joke and a threat can come across similarly on the internet. The problem is with the reasonable doubt planted within the statement, which very well may have been the ham-fisted purpose of the wording. I'm not condoning this kind of rhetoric, but whether he meant makeover, surgery or physical harm doesn't seem clear. For this reason, I'm completely clueless how it will be interpreted in relation to the rules/guidelines.

[bones261]

I'm not quite certain of the context of the message though. Is the person who posted it associated in any way with "the very rich serbians." Otherwise, it's equivalent to someone speculating what another party may do.

[kingpin4321]

From the link you posted I think the individual is annoyed with the project being a lie and still come again with more lie well there is nothing you can hold against him he never used any threat words except you are reading other meanings to it

[bill gator]

I agree with that, but they said that they can, not that they will or have any plans to do so. Offering somebody a makeover is not a threat, or simply stating that you have the capability to do something is not stating that you will. I'm genuinely not trying to justify this guy saying what seems to be a veiled threat, but sometimes you want to see something so badly that you fool yourself into thinking it is there.

I would put this user on your ignore list, document the incident as you have and then move on. People are big talk on the internet and more often than not it is somebody being emotionally immature.

[jackg]

The rules are unofficial. I think it’s there as a preventative thing rather than something definitive. It’s up to mods discretion.
I’m not sure there’s much to the mods on protocols on dealing with this stuff. Implying a threat is still a threat though.

[bitserve]

I agree with that, but they said that they can, not that they will or have any plans to do so. Offering somebody a makeover is not a threat, or simply stating that you have the capability to do something is not stating that you will. I'm genuinely not trying to justify this guy saying what seems to be a veiled threat, but sometimes you want to see something so badly that you fool yourself into thinking it is there.

I would put this user on your ignore list, document the incident as you have and then move on. People are big talk on the internet and more often than not it is somebody being emotionally immature.

Case has been reported to threadt moderator,   he can inquire more closely into this.

FTFY!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

It doesn't look like a serious threat to me. Plus maybe, even if serious, it is just an advice.

[Dig Bicks]

It wasn't even a threat, he said other people may do a correction.  As stated before a correction could mean plastic surgery or a makeover, it doesn't necessarily mean harm.

[Infinixhot1996]

I think it's a bit serious cos the member who issued the threat claims that some certain individuals(very rich per se)despite the anonymity the forum affords us can find the other party.
And what they are going to do to him, only God knows what sort of makeover it's going to be
This to me is serious,and should be treated as such

[nc50lc]

In my observation, I think that there was a misunderstanding here.

From the original thread, It seems like that the "very rich guys from Serbia" quote is based from the other party's depiction of the card manufacturers who insisted on not giving a refund.
And his statement: "can find you and make......" was his response to the question with same meaning: "Why don't you report it yourself, can't show your face to the public?" making the quoted part not pertaining to himself.

Thus, it isn't a threat.

Disclaimer: That's what I saw after shortly reading the text battle, I could be wrong.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm not quite certain of the context of the message though. Is the person who posted it associated in any way with "the very rich serbians." Otherwise, it's equivalent to someone speculating what another party may do.

That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't read the context of that thread and don't plan to.  If mr.pacy.mf was being referred to as a rich Serbian and was therefore talking about himself in that quote, then I'd definitely see the response as at least being aggressive and maybe going so far as to characterize it as a threat of bodily harm. 

But it just came off to me as just an internet dog barking--talking tough but no one's in real danger.  If mr.pacy.mf is not one of the rich Serbians, then it's not a threat at all.  That'd be like me (not affiliated with organized crime) saying "remember, the Mafia can find you and send Luca Brasi to fix your kneecaps".

It'd be nice to hear from mr.pacy.mf on this one.

[suchmoon]

Pertaining post has been deleted by forum moderator. So he took the case seriously and considered the relevant  message as a threat.  Think he must move further and take adequate  action  to prevent community members from threats posed by mr.pacy.mf .

It could have been deleted because it's off topic. That doesn't mean you shouldn't report those posts - serious threat or not, it's not appropriate for the discussion.

[Marshall14]

This IMO isn't more than a normal forum troll and it goes on in most boards of the forum,paying more than normal attention to it actually escalates it and makes it more serious than it actually ought to be or intended to be by the poster.
But just so things would remain sane it's always best to report such posts so they'll be trashed by a MOD

[NavI_027]

Reported to moderator.

That's more alarming than OP's post. I think he do not deserve a report, a ban does. I don't think that his message is not a simple troll, I have a gut-feel that it's way more than that . Yeah! I know the fact that everybody's identity here are hidden but if I were his enemy I will be scared too because receiving a threat is not a joke.

[Lucius]

That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't read the context of that thread and don't plan to.  If mr.pacy.mf was being referred to as a rich Serbian and was therefore talking about himself in that quote, then I'd definitely see the response as at least being aggressive and maybe going so far as to characterize it as a threat of bodily harm. 

But it just came off to me as just an internet dog barking--talking tough but no one's in real danger.  If mr.pacy.mf is not one of the rich Serbians, then it's not a threat at all.  That'd be like me (not affiliated with organized crime) saying "remember, the Mafia can find you and send Luca Brasi to fix your kneecaps".

It'd be nice to hear from mr.pacy.mf on this one.

I see his post as a threat to another forum member, literally means that he or his rich friends can find someone and make some corrections to his ugly face with the intention to make it even more uglier. I think he think on user TeMHuK, since he post some very nice words to him in several posts.

this is what employees in minexsystem think about you ...

so Cover your empty, stupid, ugly head with a blanket in your room and keep calm for a bit ....     

I am also sure mr.pacy.mf is Serbian, he post in that language :

Borise jebem li ti pleme zalno ja ono lopovsko ,prevarantsko.....CRKO DABOGDA

But we can also put this in just one more internet dog barking case, some say that dogs that bark do not bite, and this one is only barking in front of his PC (for now).

[xtraelv]

I am also sure mr.pacy.mf is Serbian, he post in that language :

Borise jebem li ti pleme zalno ja ono lopovsko ,prevarantsko.....CRKO DABOGDA

But we can also put this in just one more internet dog barking case, some say that dogs that bark do not bite, and this one is only barking in front of his PC (for now).

I'm fairly sure he is Serbian too. It says so in his profile.



While threats are not OK - I can understand that he is angry.

Minex has an open scam accusation against it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.0

A lot of people have lost $ due to un-kept promises.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.msg48568455#msg48568455

Q1 MinexWallet 2.0
Q1 AtomicSwap
Q2 Decentralized Minex Exchange
Q2 Web & Mobile Wallet
Q2 Minex Merchant
Q3 MinexMarket
Q3 MinexPlatform
Q3 GreenAlgo
And the most ambitious goal for 2018
Q4 Creation of a virtual, decentralized world computer,for developing own virtual Turing environment for performing smart-contracts in the Minexcoin network

what is the status of the product from your RM that I mentioned above?
did anyone work on the development of these products?
what are the new relase dates?
if you given up of  some products ... state the reasons...
Why no one in the team does not mention nothing about these product?

I asked this question several times ... me and the people from my community are eagerly awaiting the official response

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.msg47995616#msg47995616

It appears that the main reason for his anger is:

20.03.2018..................................................................... .........932.77 MNX = 3.47357  BTC =   30930.62 USD
TODAY.......................................................................... ...........932.77 MNX = 0.14816  BTC =      507.92 USD   (61 x LESS USD)  (23x LESS BTC)
TODAY.......................................................................... ...........3.47357  BTC = 11909.30 USD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.msg47995896#msg47995896




Instead of addressing the accusations they have moved it to a self moderated thread. It is not a way to deal with unhappy investor questions. If you don't deliver on promises they should get some answers.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Most likely just a stupid kid on his laptop in his bedroom which is at his Mum’s hoise.
I don’t see that post as a serious threat at all, will probably be bull shit.

[xtraelv]

Most likely just a stupid kid on his laptop in his bedroom which is at his Mum’s hoise.
I don’t see that post as a serious threat at all, will probably be bull shit.

Not a kid. Very easy to find out who he is from the information he has posted. (DOXing is against the forum rules) But in this case he posted his own details.

Just a dude whose investment of close to $90K is now worth less than $4K in a questionable ICO that was shilled by the guy he made some threatening comments to. Even the OP by the look of his post history is a minexcoin shill.

Alts and ICOs have been hit the hardest by the bear markets.

People get angry and say stupid things when their money evaporates.

The person he made the threat to made threats via personal messages himself:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.0

Which is why I am assuming an alt or associate made the OP.