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December 25, 2018, 09:36:12 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
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December 25, 2018, 11:31:40 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
I would consider Zverve a risky but worth taking bet, if you believe he can cause an upset. In my personal opinion Nadal would be coming after a long injury break and he'll be at his best to keep his number one status intact. I'll agree with you on federer I don't expect much from him, he's way past his peak. I would however not consider Djokovic out of the equation, as he will do all to become number one again. I would advise you to check their injury status before you place a bet.
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December 25, 2018, 11:44:38 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
I would consider Zverve a risky but worth taking bet, if you believe he can cause an upset. In my personal opinion Nadal would be coming after a long injury break and he'll be at his best to keep his number one status intact. I'll agree with you on federer I don't expect much from him, he's way past his peak. I would however not consider Djokovic out of the equation, as he will do all to become number one again. I would advise you to check their injury status before you place a bet. Nadal is no longer number one. And I am a big fan but I don't think he'll have a shot at the #1 spot again. I saw his schedule for 2019 and he intends to play too many tournaments. Just look https://www.menstennisforums.com/2-general-messages/955846-2019-rafael-nadal-schedule.html absolutely crazy, will ruin his chances to do well at Wimbledon and the US Open. .. and as I was saying, I think he is too rusty for the Australian Open, hope to be wrong, would love to see him win there again.
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December 27, 2018, 08:03:16 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
I would consider Zverve a risky but worth taking bet, if you believe he can cause an upset. In my personal opinion Nadal would be coming after a long injury break and he'll be at his best to keep his number one status intact. I'll agree with you on federer I don't expect much from him, he's way past his peak. I would however not consider Djokovic out of the equation, as he will do all to become number one again. I would advise you to check their injury status before you place a bet. Nadal is no longer number one. And I am a big fan but I don't think he'll have a shot at the #1 spot again. I saw his schedule for 2019 and he intends to play too many tournaments. Just look https://www.menstennisforums.com/2-general-messages/955846-2019-rafael-nadal-schedule.html absolutely crazy, will ruin his chances to do well at Wimbledon and the US Open. .. and as I was saying, I think he is too rusty for the Australian Open, hope to be wrong, would love to see him win there again. Well that's the plan but usually players like Nadal and Federer just don't go any more full circuit tournaments and just chooses which tournament they want to join specially Grand Slams. But I would agree that Zverev is a good bet here. He was inconsistent last year but was able to win the last trophy during the 2018 calendar beating Djokovic so it's worth the risk putting money on Zverev.
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December 27, 2018, 10:30:45 AM |
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I think as Djokovic lost to Zverev in straight sets in Nitto ATP Finals, I think he could really be a contender. Maybe he has really focused on what he lacked during that match and knowing that he was anxious with that. We all know that he is the top player in a way, defeating Federer in Cincinnati.
I think Djokovic is still the one going to be victorious. That's still going to be my bet.
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December 27, 2018, 11:09:19 AM |
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I think as Djokovic lost to Zverev in straight sets in Nitto ATP Finals, I think he could really be a contender. Maybe he has really focused on what he lacked during that match and knowing that he was anxious with that. We all know that he is the top player in a way, defeating Federer in Cincinnati.
I think Djokovic is still the one going to be victorious. That's still going to be my bet.
I wasn't aware of Nadal jam packed schedule I'm bit surprised especially after the injuries he had, I thought he would be selective where he'll play. I believe Zverev has the potential to cause upsets he's shown that by beating Federer and Djokovic. I believe for him to be successful from now on he requires consistency, there's potential no doubt but without consistency he won't be able to win further tournaments.
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December 27, 2018, 11:48:14 AM |
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I think that Zverev doesn't stand a chance here.
I would be betting Djokovic. The bet is actually not that bad regarding the situation.
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December 27, 2018, 02:54:44 PM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
Well the way I see this is to split money and place two bets: 1 Djoker because he come back from nowhere last year and generally Australia is good hunting zone for him. Still very potent and can deliver his best game. 2. Zverev because agile and young, showed that he can beat Djoker (same stands for the other two players), Zverev needs GS so badly. Right now Fed looks far from top players and tough Australian conditions will be obstacle for the man aged 38. Rafa great champ and fighter but didn't play last couple months, his knees are very problematic and AU is played on hard courts. For some reason I expect Berdych to reach QF (also coming from injury), Khachanov can push deep in this GS as conditions suit his aggressive game.
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December 28, 2018, 08:33:16 AM |
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Hmm, I wouldn't say that Federer and Nadal although old are done in any Grand Slams. I haven't seen any young prospect putting up a good showing in a tournaments specially in Grand Slam so I wouldn't discounted that maybe Novak or either Rafa of FedEx can still pull through in the Australian Open. Those young prospects really succumb in big tournaments so for me its nice to put a bet on the top 3 and throw some of Zverev just because of the good odds.
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December 28, 2018, 09:05:46 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
I would love to see Federer at the top as I am a big fan of him. He is too old and odds are against him for winning the tournament. If he is able to do so, it will be due to the disqualification of Djole. Nadal cannot be 100% competitive, too many injuries have made him rusty and he underperforms. 2.30 for Djokovic is a decent odd for betting. Doubling your capital is not so bad I think and Zverev is an outsider and it is worth betting for him with such an odd. Personally, I will bet for Djokovic a considerable amount, and also I will bet for Zverev with a small one. This way I will cover both options!
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December 28, 2018, 09:20:09 AM |
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What is likable about Federer? He has always been a huge douchebag with good marketing skills.
Sure his level is incredible and he has done a lot for tennis. That doesn't make him a great guy.
Maybe you need to understand french and listen to his early days interviews to understand what kind of guy he is.
What everyone can see now is just a facade. I also appreciate his game tho. But I am always happy when more humble players than him defeat him.
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December 28, 2018, 12:33:10 PM |
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What is likable about Federer? He has always been a huge douchebag with good marketing skills.
Sure his level is incredible and he has done a lot for tennis. That doesn't make him a great guy.
Maybe you need to understand french and listen to his early days interviews to understand what kind of guy he is.
What everyone can see now is just a facade. I also appreciate his game tho. But I am always happy when more humble players than him defeat him.
I always preferred Rafa Nadal to Roger Federer. Both could be seen as fake, but Rafa is probably this way because of the education he received from this uncle, he sounds like "fake" humble sometimes, but I think this mentality made him a champion. I never liked the comments from Roger Federer towards Novak Djokovic in the early days (2006, 2007), and his press conference after that loss to Nole at the US Open 2011. But as time has passed, I learned to respect Roger Federer, what he did in 2017 was truly remarkable, I think personality wise he has became better and more humble after a bad year in 2013. To reply to Kemarit, I am 90% sure Roger is done winning slams. That loss at the US Open in the 4th round I really saw it coming. To win one more slam, he will need a great draw to win all matches in 3 sets or 4 sets max. The stamina is seriously declining. His return of serve is getting worse and worse. His movement is declining. His forehand is losing power. The field is getting really too strong for him. Watch out for guys such as Karen Khachanov. Smart bet here is clearly on Alexander Zverev, returning 10 times the money, worth a small stake for sure.
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December 28, 2018, 12:35:59 PM |
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But as time has passed, I learned to respect Roger Federer, what he did in 2017 was truly remarkable, I think personality wise he has became better and more humble after a bad year in 2013.
he is an amazing athlete. But as a man he remains a douche to me. Regarding Nadal, he is more humble in my opinion. However he has managed to get referees banned from Roland Garros because they gave him a warning when he was taking too much time to serve. He might be a champion, but he lost my respect when he showed that he believes that rules should'nt apply to him. The RG organisers are also to blame in this matter. However they needed him to be there and had close to no leverage.
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December 28, 2018, 12:56:30 PM |
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What is likable about Federer? He has always been a huge douchebag with good marketing skills.
Sure his level is incredible and he has done a lot for tennis. That doesn't make him a great guy.
Maybe you need to understand french and listen to his early days interviews to understand what kind of guy he is.
What everyone can see now is just a facade. I also appreciate his game tho. But I am always happy when more humble players than him defeat him.
Indeed he has great marketing skills but this comes because he is successful. I like and admire him as an athlete. You can't say that he is a bad guy or he behaves badly to others when you have never lived with him or spend some time together. We can judge him as an athlete and IMHO he plays the best tennis for years. His technique, backhand, forehand etc. all his hits are amazing and he is the player anyone loves to see him playing.
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December 28, 2018, 01:03:08 PM |
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But as time has passed, I learned to respect Roger Federer, what he did in 2017 was truly remarkable, I think personality wise he has became better and more humble after a bad year in 2013.
he is an amazing athlete. But as a man he remains a douche to me. Regarding Nadal, he is more humble in my opinion. However he has managed to get referees banned from Roland Garros because they gave him a warning when he was taking too much time to serve. He might be a champion, but he lost my respect when he showed that he believes that rules should'nt apply to him. The RG organisers are also to blame in this matter. However they needed him to be there and had close to no leverage. Also remember the cramping at the French Open this year in the final? Won the first two sets, got cramps in the third set (against Dominic Thiem), he literally went back to his chair in the middle of a service game to ask for a medical time out. Not sure why the umpire allowed it. I secretly hope Nadal will tie Federer with 20 slams but you are right his attitude put me off sometimes. By the way the bet I like this season is Nadal NOT to win the French Open. My intuition says he will have a bad year with many injury concerns.
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December 28, 2018, 09:20:54 PM |
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Not just in AO, but I'm seeing a new breed of young tennis players having a break out year in 2019. Guys like Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Zverev, Coric, Nick Kyrgios will at least win a grand slam in 2019. Rafa and Federer is getting old and old injuries will re-occur so it's either they retire because it's going to be difficult to keep up with the young players of today, they are big, strong and agile.
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December 29, 2018, 03:04:43 AM |
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Not just in AO, but I'm seeing a new breed of young tennis players having a break out year in 2019. Guys like Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Zverev, Coric, Nick Kyrgios will at least win a grand slam in 2019. Rafa and Federer is getting old and old injuries will re-occur so it's either they retire because it's going to be difficult to keep up with the young players of today, they are big, strong and agile.
It is not possible Angela, there are only 4 slams a year, or maybe you meant one of them. I rule out Nick Kyrgios, too immature, won't grow up until he is 25 or 26. Borna Coric has the right attitude but is too limited in terms of weapons. By the way Rafa Nadal odds going up to 9.2 after his loss yesterday to Kevin Anderson. Novak Djokovic odds going down to 2.20 after a solid performance so far this week in the exhibition he is playing.
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December 29, 2018, 08:20:11 AM |
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Not just in AO, but I'm seeing a new breed of young tennis players having a break out year in 2019. Guys like Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Zverev, Coric, Nick Kyrgios will at least win a grand slam in 2019. Rafa and Federer is getting old and old injuries will re-occur so it's either they retire because it's going to be difficult to keep up with the young players of today, they are big, strong and agile.
It is not possible Angela, there are only 4 slams a year, or maybe you meant one of them. I rule out Nick Kyrgios, too immature, won't grow up until he is 25 or 26. Borna Coric has the right attitude but is too limited in terms of weapons. By the way Rafa Nadal odds going up to 9.2 after his loss yesterday to Kevin Anderson. Novak Djokovic odds going down to 2.20 after a solid performance so far this week in the exhibition he is playing. I agree that Nick Kyrgios is very immature and inconsistent. What do you think about Tsitsipas though? He has a good run last year beating top players and ending the year inside the top 15 if I'm not mistaken. As far as Roger, he has been carefully selecting tournaments though and might be concentrating on the big 4 that's why that's I still gave him a chance to get at least 1 of the 4 and maybe this Australian Open might be his last chance. But in any case, I do hope that this 2019 will be a good year for tennis. Maybe we can see Andy Murray returns, or if Roger and Rafa can still play against a lot and coming talented players
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December 30, 2018, 08:40:44 AM |
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Djokovic 2.30 Federer 8.00 Nadal 8.20 Zverev 9.50
Tempted to place a bet on Zverev, nice odds, I believe Federer is done physically, same for Nadal (will too rusty at least), while the favorite is Djokovic I think it's time for Zverev to step up and go far, maybe capitalize on an early crash for Nadal or Federer.
Zverev won the ATP finals while he was at odds 20 before the tournament, it's time to back him to win a slam.
Any constructive opinion welcome.
For me Zverev is too risky, I don't think it is worth. I would rather play safe with Djokovic and put some big money. or, If I would like to take a risk, I would go into Nadal, no offense but Federer seems like out of this league, and Nadal is the only risk worth taking. But Djokovic is still my first choice though.
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The same players have been dominating mens tennis for so many years. Is it time for a younger guy to take the reigns?
Federer & Nadal especially must be coming to an end.
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