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any news about launch?
Can't say about the launch of main net, but i'm definately going to relaunch testnet in next 2 days. BOOM, I'll take it! Any details on updates within the wallet that will be pushed? Mostly it's a new difficulty adjustment + WildKeccak with 500MB scratchpad/light scratchpad.  Good indeed! Any timeline when the WildKeccak variant will be implemented into the testnet? Would love to do some fine tuning on the rigs |
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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March 03, 2019, 06:43:09 PM |
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Hi folks!
Good news!
I've restarted new testnet (CURRENCY_FORMATION_VERSION 76) but new binaries are not ready yet since we have some problems with Jenkins server. You can re-build from sources but make "clear" before you build, please. What's new: 500Mb scratchpad with light mode(actually light mode only right now, even for mining), new difficulty adjustment algorithm(as it was discussed recently)
New binaries coming soon.
Peace!
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matejbilahora
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When will you launch it??
We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb Dear friend When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes! My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows. i hope it is. Anything else would be quite retarded. It has no logic that number of max coins would be the same. Zano will for sure have higher max supply then BBR. It will be also interest to see how will Zano compete with two new Mimblewimble coins that are also coming in January Grin and Beam. beam is already out, though Grin intrigues me the most. However, Zano's WP is the most impressive of them all. Personally, I'm sticking to Zano based on the strength of its WP and the reputation of the team - weird, right? Would like to know if the swap is 1:1 though I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin? |
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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March 03, 2019, 08:18:51 PM |
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When will you launch it??
We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb Dear friend When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes! My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows. I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin? |
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When will you launch it??
We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb Dear friend When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes! My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows. I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin? |
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March 04, 2019, 10:51:57 AM |
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When will you launch it??
We going to launch first public test net in January and then if stress tests passed well then we gonna launch production in Feb Dear friend When will BBR holders can swap from BBR to Zano? The conversion rate is 1:1 or ... and how long it takes! My friend, as long as nobody knows the amount of created zoin coins, any specific conversion rate does not make any sense. If the distributed number of zoin coins is around the number of bbr coins, then it makes sense, but nobody knows. I just wonder why do people talk here about Zoin? |
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March 04, 2019, 10:00:58 PM
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tbearhere
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March 04, 2019, 10:13:10 PM |
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crypto_zoidberg links aren't working.
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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March 04, 2019, 10:31:01 PM
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crypto_zoidberg links aren't working. Damn, Does anyone know how to escape "]" symbol interpretation as a tag closer? ..... UPD: links fixed |
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tbearhere
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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March 06, 2019, 09:22:07 PM |
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yeah, it's tricky, i used % to encode characters to proper url, seems that worked |
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yeah, it's tricky, i used % to encode characters to proper url, seems that worked Yes I see. |
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What is max supply? Is there any ICO where are all the coins how they came etc. I were really surprised to see you havent filled the thread with pictures and that's from scratch. Will be around for a while |
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Hello All: Would someone please be helpful and List a step by step instruction on how to set up a "solo mine" for a brand new A9? I am running into a few errors, such as how to get a server and then set up the miner. I understand that I probably will not make any money, but that's not my intention. I am a healthcare provider and looking to push myself with this. I love computers and never had any money to buy a new rig. BTW: i found a brand new A9 in the box with 1200-1600w supply in the box for 200!!!! I cant tell you how stoked I am to set this up. If anyone will be kind enough to help out, I would greatly appreciate it. Hi folks! Good news! After a long development process, we are finally ready to announce that Zano is nearing the release stage. Today, our team has prepared a short recap to showcase the project’s features, technical background, and much more, including a detailed explanation of Zano’s connection to our older project, Boolberry. What is Zano?Zano is our new blockchain project, primarily aimed at e-commerce related applications. While developing Zano, we have taken our previous experience into account, therefore Zano inherits some of the older technological principles that proved to be effective (e.g. CryptoNote). However, some of the features are developed completely from scratch. Website: https://zano.orgGithub: https://github.com/zano-project/zano- Hybrid consensus algorithm
One of the key features which brings next-level security to our network is the PoW/PoS hybrid consensus protocol. The network favors blockchain extensions where PoW and PoS based blocks alternate, therefore minimizing intrusion possibilities, such as eg. the 51% attack. - Efficient asynchronous core architecture
As scalability has always been an issue for older blockchain projects, we have put a lot of effort in the core of our project to make it as efficient as possible. As a result, we developed the asynchronous core architecture which allows for multiple transactions to be processed simultaneously.
- Multiwallet user-friendly fancy interface.
To make things easier for the network members, our user interface can now handle multiple wallets at the same time.
- Optimized single-file wallet
Any wallet can now be accessed with just a single file, which can be opened and used in various operation systems. Additionally, the size of this file is significantly optimized.
- Multisig
The multi-signature feature is an important improvement which is now fully integrated in all wallets, as well as in the core of our project.
- Contracts & Peer-to-peer transactions
The P2P transactions are now simple and efficient because of multi-functional contracts. Also, a high level of security is provided by the “Consolidated transactions” feature.
- Simplified Alias registration
Now getting an alias is as simple as regular transaction
BBR CoinswapWhen Boolberry was initially launched, no pre-mineable coins were made available. We are aware the all BBR supporters and coin holders were interested in the project the way it was at that time. So, to make sure the rules are fair for everyone, we decided to provide all BBR holders with an option to make their own choices in terms of swapping BBR for Zano. However, the whole ecosystem of modern blockchain projects has massively changed over the past few years. Staying competitive progressively becomes more difficult, requiring highly qualified developers, software architects, marketing specialists, etc. Massive expertise in the field is crucial to provide the customers with a product that is efficient and easy to use for anyone. We have invested a lot of time and effort into Zano, and user friendliness was one of the main focus points. Switching to Zano is made easy for any Boolberry user, as BBR coins can be exchanged for exactly the same amount of Zano coins. However, the coinswap is not forced in any way, so Boolberry users can keep BBR if they prefer. Is Zano a hardfork?It is very important to understand that Zano is not a hardfork of Boolberry. The BBR blockchain with all the past transactions is not copied over to Zano. This is an entirely new project, with its’ own genesis block. In Zano, coins are partially reserved for pre-mining and BBR coinswap. Why do we burn swapped coins? We are convinced that hardforks (or cloneforks) like Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Gold, where the old blockchain is copied over, do not support the core idea of all cryptocurrencies. This is because hardforks like these create a vacuum that blurs the value of blockchain technology. In Zano, we offer users an option to upgrade to a more innovative project, while the option to stay on Boolberry remains. The coinswap is executed in a way where the BBR coins that get converted to Zano no longer exist in Boolberry network. How does coinswap work exactly? From the user perspective, the coinswap is essentially making a transaction to a special Zano address, which always starts with the letter “Z”. We made the coinswap process as easy and transparent as possible to alleviate any potential confusion. Coinswap transactions can be executed via the normal GUI, simplewallet, or even directly from a coin exchange. In any case, the coinswap works just like a usual transaction. From the technical perspective, coinswap is a special Boolberry transaction, which includes an encrypted Zano address in the extra data. This Zano address is where the converted coins are sent to. The actual output key of this transaction is zero, so after the coinswap the BBR coins are no longer possible to spend. What about Boolberry? We will continue to maintain and support Boolberry, as well as copy a few minor features from Zano. For example, an updated GUI based on qtWebEngine, an optimized compact wallet, and more. Besides that, we will keep releasing new patches to minimize bugs and vulnerabilities, and generally keep developing Boolberry as a classic PoW project. What’s next? As of today, Zano remains in final development stage. Some of the project’s features are still unfinished. In the release version, more will be added, for instance features like Black wallet, market nodes, and other multisig use cases. Stay tuned for more updates! |
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March 07, 2019, 01:06:56 AM
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What is max supply? Is there any ICO where are all the coins how they came etc. I were really surprised to see you havent filled the thread with pictures and that's from scratch. Will be around for a while I'm sorry about the confusion, we working on this headers right now. Brief info: Supply will be the same (or nearly the same) as in Boolberry, about 18M coins. We were never doing any ICO, it's old school cryptocurrency, originated from Boolberry, which coins will be swapped into Zano. The final document with coinswap&emission details will be published as in next 2 weeks.
Hello All: Would someone please be helpful and List a step by step instruction on how to set up a "solo mine" for a brand new A9? I am running into a few errors, such as how to get a server and then set up the miner. I understand that I probably will not make any money, but that's not my intention. I am a healthcare provider and looking to push myself with this. I love computers and never had any money to buy a new rig. BTW: i found a brand new A9 in the box with 1200-1600w supply in the box for 200!!!! I cant tell you how stoked I am to set this up. If anyone will be kind enough to help out, I would greatly appreciate it. Hi folks! Good news! After a long development process, we are finally ready to announce that Zano is nearing the release stage. Today, our team has prepared a short recap to showcase the project’s features, technical background, and much more, including a detailed explanation of Zano’s connection to our older project, Boolberry. What is Zano?Zano is our new blockchain project, primarily aimed at e-commerce related applications. While developing Zano, we have taken our previous experience into account, therefore Zano inherits some of the older technological principles that proved to be effective (e.g. CryptoNote). However, some of the features are developed completely from scratch. Website: https://zano.orgGithub: https://github.com/zano-project/zano- Hybrid consensus algorithm
One of the key features which brings next-level security to our network is the PoW/PoS hybrid consensus protocol. The network favors blockchain extensions where PoW and PoS based blocks alternate, therefore minimizing intrusion possibilities, such as eg. the 51% attack. - Efficient asynchronous core architecture
As scalability has always been an issue for older blockchain projects, we have put a lot of effort in the core of our project to make it as efficient as possible. As a result, we developed the asynchronous core architecture which allows for multiple transactions to be processed simultaneously.
- Multiwallet user-friendly fancy interface.
To make things easier for the network members, our user interface can now handle multiple wallets at the same time.
- Optimized single-file wallet
Any wallet can now be accessed with just a single file, which can be opened and used in various operation systems. Additionally, the size of this file is significantly optimized.
- Multisig
The multi-signature feature is an important improvement which is now fully integrated in all wallets, as well as in the core of our project.
- Contracts & Peer-to-peer transactions
The P2P transactions are now simple and efficient because of multi-functional contracts. Also, a high level of security is provided by the “Consolidated transactions” feature.
- Simplified Alias registration
Now getting an alias is as simple as regular transaction
BBR CoinswapWhen Boolberry was initially launched, no pre-mineable coins were made available. We are aware the all BBR supporters and coin holders were interested in the project the way it was at that time. So, to make sure the rules are fair for everyone, we decided to provide all BBR holders with an option to make their own choices in terms of swapping BBR for Zano. However, the whole ecosystem of modern blockchain projects has massively changed over the past few years. Staying competitive progressively becomes more difficult, requiring highly qualified developers, software architects, marketing specialists, etc. Massive expertise in the field is crucial to provide the customers with a product that is efficient and easy to use for anyone. We have invested a lot of time and effort into Zano, and user friendliness was one of the main focus points. Switching to Zano is made easy for any Boolberry user, as BBR coins can be exchanged for exactly the same amount of Zano coins. However, the coinswap is not forced in any way, so Boolberry users can keep BBR if they prefer. Is Zano a hardfork?It is very important to understand that Zano is not a hardfork of Boolberry. The BBR blockchain with all the past transactions is not copied over to Zano. This is an entirely new project, with its’ own genesis block. In Zano, coins are partially reserved for pre-mining and BBR coinswap. Why do we burn swapped coins? We are convinced that hardforks (or cloneforks) like Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Gold, where the old blockchain is copied over, do not support the core idea of all cryptocurrencies. This is because hardforks like these create a vacuum that blurs the value of blockchain technology. In Zano, we offer users an option to upgrade to a more innovative project, while the option to stay on Boolberry remains. The coinswap is executed in a way where the BBR coins that get converted to Zano no longer exist in Boolberry network. How does coinswap work exactly? From the user perspective, the coinswap is essentially making a transaction to a special Zano address, which always starts with the letter “Z”. We made the coinswap process as easy and transparent as possible to alleviate any potential confusion. Coinswap transactions can be executed via the normal GUI, simplewallet, or even directly from a coin exchange. In any case, the coinswap works just like a usual transaction. From the technical perspective, coinswap is a special Boolberry transaction, which includes an encrypted Zano address in the extra data. This Zano address is where the converted coins are sent to. The actual output key of this transaction is zero, so after the coinswap the BBR coins are no longer possible to spend. What about Boolberry? We will continue to maintain and support Boolberry, as well as copy a few minor features from Zano. For example, an updated GUI based on qtWebEngine, an optimized compact wallet, and more. Besides that, we will keep releasing new patches to minimize bugs and vulnerabilities, and generally keep developing Boolberry as a classic PoW project. What’s next? As of today, Zano remains in final development stage. Some of the project’s features are still unfinished. In the release version, more will be added, for instance features like Black wallet, market nodes, and other multisig use cases. Stay tuned for more updates! Hi! Solo mining right now is something that doesn't make much sense - miner that right now "inbox" with daemon is working in "light-mode", which is not effective for mining (light mode is a memory/performance tradeoff). It's ok for testing whole core and connectivity part, but hashrate is 1/1000 of what is supposed to be. Also, the way builtin miner made at this moment doesn't let it do mining by using multithreading advantages (and we even has a ticket for that in github), at this moment it's not a priority compared to other tasks. Btw, we hired a guy who is working on creating Zano mining pool coupled with Zano CPU miner (commits are making in "zano" branch). https://github.com/hyle-team/zano-cpuminer-multihttps://github.com/hyle-team/zano-nodejs-poolhttps://github.com/hyle-team/node-multi-hashing-aesnifyi: nickname in Zano discord: "Nikita Kryuchkov" As a next step we planning to make GPU miner for WildKeccak2, originally it supposed to be w0lf, but I can't get contact him for last days(if anyone is in touch with him please ping him).
FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg50060966#msg50060966
Hi guys!
After many consultations and digging in different technical reports, following different meetings, including last Ethereum Core Devs Meeting #57 (https://youtu.be/GQ0kbH0iSfI?t=1406 ), we decided to chose ProgPow hash function for Zano. This hash function have been reviewed by many experts, passed few audits and considered to be one of the strongest PoW hash functions existing at this moment. We going to integrate this hash in Zano codebase, and hopefully we can launch new testnet based on ProgPow before this weekend. |
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onecryptoguy
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Wild keccak was so nice... small power draw, stable... With ProgPOW power draw is higher, summer is comming, cooling fans are shaking...
I prefer wild keccak 1, 2 or wtv version will be...
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One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)
ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
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March 21, 2019, 06:41:36 PM |
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One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)
ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
You talking about things which are not related. Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors. And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price). My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective. WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others? -------- I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project. |
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March 21, 2019, 09:43:02 PM
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One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)
ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
I pay .18 cents a kw. Progpow will be maybe unmineable. Wildkeccak is the way to go.
The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else.
One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)
ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
You talking about things which are not related. Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors. And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price). My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective. WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others? -------- I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project.
The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else. |
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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March 21, 2019, 09:54:38 PM |
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One of the worst decisions that could be made.
Say bye bye to mining Zano if you pay more than 6c per kW/h (meaning at 6c per kW/h you will break even electricity cost with revenue)
ProgPoW increases power consumption over 130% in comparison to WK.
This is absolutely not needed for a 7m market cap project. Memory hardness was good enough already and ASICs wouldn't have been created for years to come.
You talking about things which are not related. Power consumption is just a part of the coast of mining(the other part is hardware coast) and will be nearly the same for all miners, it just a part of the coin price factors. And my goal is not to make coins which is cheap to mine (and actually, expensive mining will pull up the price). My goal is to have PoW hash function which is perfectly fit to modern video cards presented on the market, this strategy proved to be effective. WK2 from this perspective obviously less protected, and you being insisted so much to stay with WK2, expect me to make this project fit your particular farm or give you a chance to have private miner with performance advantages over the others? -------- I can remember some engineers, like cbuchner for example, who was doing "killing" with the private optimized miner which they implemented, and this was painful, and was big pressure on the price, and was a lot of FUD because of this, but I respected these guys, they were pretty open about what they do and never pretended to be good friends of the project.
The main factor in mining is the electricity .... nothing else. The only problem with wild keccak is that memory hardness itself seems to be not enough to have relatively strong PoW algo in this days. |
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