Claiming BCH/BTG

[gueorguiev]

I was wondering if anyone knew if I could send BTC to an Exchange or wallet that supports BCH/BTG and get the coin equivalents credited to my wallet, or is it past the point where I can claim them?

[OmegaStarScream]

The exchanges credited forked coins already. If you didn't have your funds in an exchange, but you do control the private keys of your current bitcoin address (If you had bitcoins in the address when the forks occurred) then you could claim your forked coins by either exporting the private keys and importing them to a compatible BCH/BTG wallet or simply use Walleting.Services and they'll do it for you.

[madnessteat]

How long have you thought about getting forks. Currently found 557581 unit, and the forks BCH and BTG occurred at 478588 and 491407 blocks. It's been over a year since the last fork.

~Walleting.Services~

Very interesting service, did not know that I can get a fork, if not received it immediately.

[gueorguiev]

The exchanges credited forked coins already. If you didn't have your funds in an exchange, but you do control the private keys of your current bitcoin address (If you had bitcoins in the address when the forks occurred) then you could claim your forked coins by either exporting the private keys and importing them to a compatible BCH/BTG wallet or simply use Walleting.Services and they'll do it for you.

I'm a little skeptical about exporting my private keys. Could I instead move a small amount of BTC (lets say .1) from my pre-fork BitcoinCore wallet address to a new Electrum wallet address and then use my Electrum seed with the Walleting services?

[gueorguiev]

How long have you thought about getting forks. Currently found 557581 unit, and the forks BCH and BTG occurred at 478588 and 491407 blocks. It's been over a year since the last fork.

~Walleting.Services~

Very interesting service, did not know that I can get a fork, if not received it immediately.

Ive been here since before August 1st 2017, and I considered claiming the coins then but there was too much unsurety for me then about how to go about getting them so I didn't bother.

[harizen]

I was wondering if anyone knew if I could send BTC to an Exchange or wallet that supports BCH/BTG and get the coin equivalents credited to my wallet, or is it past the point where I can claim them?

Not possible. You must have the funds stored on that exchange while the fork is happening.

Better claim your forked coins via various methods available around. Of course you need your private key here.

I've used the Coinomi method to claimed my BCH but nowadays I believed there are lots of easier ways to claimed forked coins. Just give it a search or you can try the above suggestion. Don't have experienced using it so read feedbacks for reference.

[Lucius]

gueorguiev, if you want to claim BCH/BTG fork coins then first step is to move your BTC from any current wallet from where you will export your private keys. In this way you will protect your BTC since those coins will be moved to new wallet on new address/private keys.

Then you can download wallet for BCH from here : https://electroncash.org/ and import your private keys. This is Electrum based wallet and it is trusted, many claim their BCH using this wallet and it can be install on same device with any other Electrum based wallet.

For BTG which I never claim personally, there is also ElectrumG SPV wallet available for download on their official website https://bitcoingold.org/electrumg/ , but I am not sure 100% is it working so be careful with any wallet for forked coins.

I'm a little skeptical about exporting my private keys. Could I instead move a small amount of BTC (lets say .1) from my pre-fork BitcoinCore wallet address to a new Electrum wallet address and then use my Electrum seed with the Walleting services?

You can not claim coins in that way. By moving just BTC from Core to Electrum and using that seed on some service you will not get anything except that you will compromise your seed from Electrum. Without private keys which control BTC before fork happened, there is no way to claim such coins.

[gueorguiev]

gueorguiev, if you want to claim BCH/BTG fork coins then first step is to move your BTC from any current wallet from where you will export your private keys. In this way you will protect your BTC since those coins will be moved to new wallet on new address/private keys.

Then you can download wallet for BCH from here : https://electroncash.org/ and import your private keys. This is Electrum based wallet and it is trusted, many claim their BCH using this wallet and it can be install on same device with any other Electrum based wallet.

For BTG which I never claim personally, there is also ElectrumG SPV wallet available for download on their official website https://bitcoingold.org/electrumg/ , but I am not sure 100% is it working so be careful with any wallet for forked coins.

I'm a little skeptical about exporting my private keys. Could I instead move a small amount of BTC (lets say .1) from my pre-fork BitcoinCore wallet address to a new Electrum wallet address and then use my Electrum seed with the Walleting services?

You can not claim coins in that way. By moving just BTC from Core to Electrum and using that seed on some service you will not get anything except that you will compromise your seed from Electrum. Without private keys which control BTC before fork happened, there is no way to claim such coins.

OK, I think I understand, but just to be 100% clear you're saying if I move my BTC from BitcoinCore to a new wallet, im then free to export the private keys on the old wallet without any risk?

[manfredmann]

The exchanges credited forked coins already. If you didn't have your funds in an exchange, but you do control the private keys of your current bitcoin address (If you had bitcoins in the address when the forks occurred) then you could claim your forked coins by either exporting the private keys and importing them to a compatible BCH/BTG wallet or simply use Walleting.Services and they'll do it for you.

That would be good to know. As the BCH do the hardfork and it even splitted into two coins, the BSV and the old blockchain which is the BCH. However, I was seeing that cleints or consumers still wants the BCH version. This after the BCH market price had move faster in terms of its increase than BSV. But for OP's concern regarding with the hardfork of BCH, the exchanges had gone some maintenance and upgrades in the adaptation of BCH hard fork.

[Lucius]

OK, I think I understand, but just to be 100% clear you're saying if I move my BTC from BitcoinCore to a new wallet, im then free to export the private keys on the old wallet without any risk?

This is true, in that case your coins will be stored in new wallet on new address which is controlled by new private key, which means that old address is empty and using that old private keys does not pose a security risk for your BTC.

Of course you should pay attention on that new wallet for BTC, always at least double check that it is legal source for download. In case of Electrum BTC wallet use only https://electrum.org/#home and read about posted warning.

 

[bitmover]

I made a post here long time ago, explaining how to claim most of those forks using coinomi wallet and iancoleman.io/bip39 tool

The most important is to transfer your BTC to another wallet before doing it
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3064698.0

[boyptc]

OK, I think I understand, but just to be 100% clear you're saying if I move my BTC from BitcoinCore to a new wallet, im then free to export the private keys on the old wallet without any risk?

Yes and this was announced by theymos already sometime ago.

Like what bitmover said and lucius, you are fine if you send first to another wallet and empty the wallet that you are about to export the keys for the retrieval of fork coins.

[gueorguiev]

OK, I think I understand, but just to be 100% clear you're saying if I move my BTC from BitcoinCore to a new wallet, im then free to export the private keys on the old wallet without any risk?

This is true, in that case your coins will be stored in new wallet on new address which is controlled by new private key, which means that old address is empty and using that old private keys does not pose a security risk for your BTC.

Of course you should pay attention on that new wallet for BTC, always at least double check that it is legal source for download. In case of Electrum BTC wallet use only https://electrum.org/#home and read about posted warning.

 

So I transferred over the coins to another wallet, and then I used the dumpprivkey command in debug of BitcoinCore to get my private key. The only problem now is almost every Private key that I try to sweep into Coinimi wallet comes back with the message " the private key does not contain any funds". I've had more or less the same amount of BTC in my wallet since Mt.Gox exchange flopped, but all Coinimi could sweep out was a .1 BCH.  How is that?

[bitmover]

So I transferred over the coins to another wallet, and then I used the dumpprivkey command in debug of BitcoinCore to get my private key. The only problem now is almost every Private key that I try to sweep into Coinimi wallet comes back with the message " the private key does not contain any funds". I've had more or less the same amount of BTC in my wallet since Mt.Gox exchange flopped, but all Coinimi could sweep out was a .1 BCH.  How is that?

Two possibility here:
1- you are using wrong addresses, which didn't contained funds at the time. Try to search for more addresses. Try change addresses also (change internal/external to 1 instead of 0, you will get more addresses to scan with coinomi)

2- you didn't contained any funds at the time.

[Lucius]

So I transferred over the coins to another wallet, and then I used the dumpprivkey command in debug of BitcoinCore to get my private key. The only problem now is almost every Private key that I try to sweep into Coinimi wallet comes back with the message " the private key does not contain any funds". I've had more or less the same amount of BTC in my wallet since Mt.Gox exchange flopped, but all Coinimi could sweep out was a .1 BCH.  How is that?

I use Bitcoin Core long time ago, but what you really need is to get all your private keys from receive/change addresses. I found that this was possible back in 2016, but I am not sure will it work with version of Core you using today.

the command is dumpwallet you can use it from the terminal and you must give it a full path, e.g.

dumpwallet c:\mykeys.txt

If you have set a password you need to unlock the wallet first. The below command will unlock it for 60 seconds.

walletpassphrase PASSWORD 60

They will be exported unencrypted(!) so be careful.

Only thing you need to change is 60 to 600, so wallet will stay unlock for 600 seconds. Also there will be problem probably with a large number of addresses you will get, but solution for that is to filter them to only change and label, which means only those address which contain some balance.

For more info visit : How to dump all private keys

[gueorguiev]

so I ended up taking the transaction ID from the Electrum wallet and I put it into a blockexplorer. It returned to me all the inputs, which in turn gave me the addresses that actually had BCH on them. I've put my private keys onto Coinimi and I have my coins now.

Thanks a lot for the help Lucius and bitmover!

[milly6]

The exchanges credited forked coins already. If you didn't have your funds in an exchange, but you do control the private keys of your current bitcoin address (If you had bitcoins in the address when the forks occurred) then you could claim your forked coins by either exporting the private keys and importing them to a compatible BCH/BTG wallet or simply use Walleting.Services and they'll do it for you.

I'm a little skeptical about exporting my private keys. Could I instead move a small amount of BTC (lets say .1) from my pre-fork BitcoinCore wallet address to a new Electrum wallet address and then use my Electrum seed with the Walleting services?

You can only get the coins from the wallet address with which they were stored during the fork. If you send btc after the fork, you will only send BTC and no fork coins. You could, however, send all of your BTC away from that address before attempting to extract other coins.

[Lucius]

so I ended up taking the transaction ID from the Electrum wallet and I put it into a blockexplorer. It returned to me all the inputs, which in turn gave me the addresses that actually had BCH on them. I've put my private keys onto Coinimi and I have my coins now.
Thanks a lot for the help Lucius and bitmover!

I'm glad you found the best way to claim that forked coins, the only thing that is relatively bad is timing. Some would say better late than never, but just a year ago BCH price was 4000$+ (December 20, 2017), and today is just above 100$.

I do not know what you have in the plan with that coins, but only thing I can say to you that this is not time for sale. Waiting for the next big pump could be a good strategy to get some profit from that forked coins.

You're welcome and stay safe

[gueorguiev]

so I ended up taking the transaction ID from the Electrum wallet and I put it into a blockexplorer. It returned to me all the inputs, which in turn gave me the addresses that actually had BCH on them. I've put my private keys onto Coinimi and I have my coins now.
Thanks a lot for the help Lucius and bitmover!

I'm glad you found the best way to claim that forked coins, the only thing that is relatively bad is timing. Some would say better late than never, but just a year ago BCH price was 4000$+ (December 20, 2017), and today is just above 100$.

I do not know what you have in the plan with that coins, but only thing I can say to you that this is not time for sale. Waiting for the next big pump could be a good strategy to get some profit from that forked coins.

You're welcome and stay safe

Ahah yea it was bad timing. I still got quite a bit out of it and learned a bunch of new things in the process so im very satisfied with the results either way. As for my plan for the coins im looking into reinvesting them, either into my loaning account or masternodes. I'm still doing a bunch of research on masternodes but I feel more confident in those two areas then I do at all with the future of BCH prices or any forked coin for the matter.

[bitmover]

I'm glad you found the best way to claim that forked coins, the only thing that is relatively bad is timing. Some would say better late than never, but just a year ago BCH price was 4000$+ (December 20, 2017), and today is just above 100$.

I do not know what you have in the plan with that coins, but only thing I can say to you that this is not time for sale. Waiting for the next big pump could be a good strategy to get some profit from that forked coins.

You're welcome and stay safe

I don't agree that it's not a good time to sell.


Forked coins always go tend to go to zero. They are all just vaporware in my opinion.
If you sell bch btg btx btcp btcd etcetc for bitcoin, it's a nice way to increase your bitcoin holdings without any risk.

If you hold those coins for six more monthsor example, they will be worth less bitcoin than they are worth now.