Ban Appeal RegulusHr and discussion on topic "good for the forum as a whole".

[slackovic]

I must admit I didn't have time to check out this topic for a month. Now I did and I am shocked that no one of the admins answered! On the last page there are messages from no one but our local Croatian community. That's not how an appeal should work, is it? I know that there are a lot of users on this forum and it's hard to manage it, but when you see how much local community is defending one user, don't you think that it would be OK to answer them?

[cryptofrka]

Guys, please stop meriting these posts. It will once again be the same story as at the beginning. Now it will seem we are writing here because we are being 'rewarded'. They said we are writing here only because Regulus was our merit source.

I will say it again - if there are exceptions to the rules (which are mostly good due to a huge amount of spammers and double accounts), we at least deserve an answer from one of the admins. It is unfair to just pretend that this will go away. It probably will at some point but it is definitely sending the wrong message.

The punishment, although according to the forum rules, was in this specific case way too strict - simply because the rules were made for spamming/farming accounts and not users like Regulus. But we are not even requesting that rules need to be changed, we only want to know that somebody looked into this case and made their own conclusions.

It is really unfair to a member as highly rated as Regulus that nobody even looked at this case for months.

[alanst]

This thread is starting to become annoying...

The rules are simple and he broke them. You have already been told countless times that thousands of users are banned daily for the same thing he did, respectable or not, the rules are for everyone regardless of their status and initial intentions, plagiarism = permaban.

...local forum seems like 50% less active than before he was banned

Of course it is, there's no reason to post if there's no one there to merit them, right?

All I see is users which are hungry for merit whining that their merit farm source is dead due to stealing posts.

Almost four months later, still the best thing i've read in this thread...

[Branko]

Almost four months later, still the best thing i've read in this thread...

Almost four months later, you're still dumb enough to not notice we DON'T CARE
if his merit source status is removed, yet you feel urge to post here

Let me do it for you

Regarding the community support - I can understand reservations there as well. You can test it easily - revoke Regulus's ban, remove negative trust but remove him as a merit source.
We as a community will progress a bit harder but if we are honest, we will be pleased because a member we cared about is back in our community.

This would not be fair too because he was actually a great merit source and did the job thoroughly but would serve as a way to show that we support the man and not the milking cow.

[alanst]

Almost four months later, still the best thing i've read in this thread...

Almost four months later, you're still dumb enough to not notice we DON'T CARE
if his merit source status is removed, yet you feel urge to post here

Let me do it for you

Regarding the community support - I can understand reservations there as well. You can test it easily - revoke Regulus's ban, remove negative trust but remove him as a merit source.
We as a community will progress a bit harder but if we are honest, we will be pleased because a member we cared about is back in our community.

This would not be fair too because he was actually a great merit source and did the job thoroughly but would serve as a way to show that we support the man and not the milking cow.

This is one of the reasons I stated that this thread is becoming annoying. The fact that you don't care makes me dumb?  You don't care about what will happen if one user is unbanned for something that thousands of other users are banned for daily? And I'm the dumb one...

You only care about your local section, that's what bothers me and that's what each and every one of you are saying indirectly...."F the rules, he's better, forgive him", yet, at some point, he knowingly did something against the rules.

In my opinion, the power of example is the best one. With him as an example, all of you will know better next time you'll want to increase your post count by stealing someone else's work!

Also, don't you think that a mod/admin would have replied if they would have considered unbanning? Silence is also a pretty clear answer...

[cryptofrka]

First of all, let's keep it civil here.

Of course it is, there's no reason to post if there's no one there to merit them, right?

We have another merit source, it is not due to that.

You only care about your local section, that's what bothers me and that's what each and every one of you are saying indirectly...."F the rules, he's better, forgive him", yet, at some point, he knowingly did something against the rules.

In my opinion, the power of example is the best one. With him as an example, all of you will know better next time you'll want to increase your post count by stealing someone else's work!

Also, don't you think that a mod/admin would have replied if they would have considered unbanning? Silence is also a pretty clear answer...

Yes, we care only about the local section. Is there a rule against that? Why should I participate in the English one when I'm able to participate in my local one? That's specifically the point of having a local section, is it not?

The power of example is usually the good thing, yes. So, let's set an example by answering to a ban appeal. According to rules, you can appeal to a ban - that's exactly what Regulus did.
If somebody answered and told us that the case is closed, we would consider it an injustice but we would at least have an answer. This is a specific case, the copied post is from 2017 if I remember correctly, when he was still a Newbie member and probably joined to participate in an Airdrop. 70% of these threads have since been deleted, he was unlucky his was not. These threads are such garbage anyway, he didn't copy Homer's Odyssey, he copied 'good post, this project moon soon' type of retarded post years ago. Since then, he was an exemplary member of our community and the last person that needs to be banned from our board.

Oh, and yeah - silence is NOT an answer and it should never be taken as such.

[mikeywith]

This thread is starting to become annoying...

i doubt that anybody uses your keyboard neither consuming your computer resources to post here, and you are certainly not forced to visit the thread, so stop whining and ignore the topic if you have nothing important to add.


I have gone through OP's posts (used dear google translator indeed) and I can clearly see that he was a decent poster, way too far from the average Joe who would copy and paste just for merit or post count.

is un-banning him "good for the forum as a whole" ? i say indeed yes.

notice that i don't know this member, can't speak his language but I do believe in second chances.

it's true that tons of spammers are being banned everyday, and being a good poster does not give you the right to break the forum rules, but this is not a court-martial and i believe theymos is open to exceptions, given the fact that good quality members make a very small percentage here, they should get some exception when things are not related to direct harm or scam.

[ovcijisir]

I was not visiting forum for nearly one month, and still no answer from forum staff.

I'm disappointed but not suprised ...

[eroejoe]

It wouldn't be first time nor last time that someone is unbanned.

If someone copy few senteces without quotes two years ago, and now that user got a ban, that ban shouldn't be at same level for someoene who doing these things continuously and for the user which spend hours and hours of writing original posts and organised meetings for community.
This permaban is unfair, because, "you" let him to do great things for community as a whole, and after so much work for forum as a whole, "you" give him a shoe to make a example for others. Good job!
For me this is example how much this community don't care about your great doings, and you could be the next Regulus.

[dikobraz123]

 I'm new here and I don't know RegulusHr personally. Also I don't spend much time on this forum (and occasional dwelling on Croatian sub-forum is part of that time).
Browsing through RegulusHr posts I must admit that this guy made quite a few good, informative and educational posts.

 Even more - it appears that this guy organized gathering for the regional crypto-community (and paid all the expenses of that gathering).
I bet that most of you from USA, Canada or western part of EU wouldn't tackle with that, would you? And most of you are probably earning 5x more than him, though...

 Any idea; in order to thrive; need committed individuals - and RegulusHr was exactly that (from my limited experience).
Maybe he made sins in his youth, but his later deeds greatly overweight the sins of youth.

My 2 cents...

[Daniel91]

This thread is starting to become annoying...

i doubt that anybody uses your keyboard neither consuming your computer resources to post here, and you are certainly not forced to visit the thread, so stop whining and ignore the topic if you have nothing important to add.


I have gone through OP's posts (used dear google translator indeed) and I can clearly see that he was a decent poster, way too far from the average Joe who would copy and paste just for merit or post count.

is un-banning him "good for the forum as a whole" ? i say indeed yes.

notice that i don't know this member, can't speak his language but I do believe in second chances.

it's true that tons of spammers are being banned everyday, and being a good poster does not give you the right to break the forum rules, but this is not a court-martial and i believe theymos is open to exceptions, given the fact that good quality members make a very small percentage here, they should get some exception when things are not related to direct harm or scam.

Thank you very much mikeywith.
I agree with you, we don't have many good members on this forum, people who contributed a lot to the forum by helping others and writing quality posts.

So, I really think, as well as many others who have already expressed their opinion here, that we shouldn't lose RegulusHr, a respected member of the local community, forever.
He is already banned almost 4 months, already apologized a few time for his mistakes and is ready to accept any future punishment, if needed.
After your post I realized what is the main problem here.
He mostly wrote in the local section, Croatian, so other members can't understand and see his great contribution on this forum.
You made effort to translate his posts and after that realized his great contribution on his forum and shared opinion that his permaban should be removed.
Obviously, we can't expect that other members on this forum will make the same effort and translate his posts.
Because of this, we, members in the local Croatian community, decided to start translation project and to translate the best posts from RegulusHR in English, so that everybody on this forum can understand his post and see his great contribution to this forum.
Based on this, we hope that all members here will see that RegulusHr deserve exception from the permaban, according to the condition established by theymos, "good for the forum as a whole".  
I will start first with my translation of the one post from RegulusHr, and other members of the Croatian community will follow with their own translations.
Already a lot members in the Croatian community joined this project and we will try to translate as many posts as possible from RegulusHr.
With this action, we want to prove that RegulusHr really deserve exception from the permaban based on his great contribution on the forum.

We asked RegulusHr and received his approval for these translations.
In every post we will first show link from the original post in English and after that English translation.

Below is my first translation.

Original post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4818132.msg43532974#msg43532974

My translation:

As a newcomer to the forum I recommend you to first view the topic register in Croatian sub forum where there are many topics dealing with mining.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3718248.0

Since I have analyzed today the state of the mining market my shortest answer would be don’t buy a graphics card for mining because I do not see the justification of such investment at this time.

I started mining about ten months ago and I bought 5xGTX1070 because it seemed to me the best decision at that time. Otherwise I'm a fan of nvidia cards and I always choose them first if it's even justified. Today I would not recommend nvidia cards for mining, their main advantage was that they could profitably mining many different algorithms and were simple to start mining (they do not need a fleece bios). Disadvantage is that they are expensive compared to AMD's RX series.
AMD cards were also good for mining the Ethasha algorithm (ETH is the most known currency that uses this algorithm. Currently the Ethash algorithm is most resilient on rush from ACIS machines but there is a great disadvantage what's in the announcement that Ethereum, which today have highest number of miners, all types of graphics cards soon pass to POS and it will no longer be profitable to mining. So I do not see at this point the profitability of mining graphics cards.
Calculate that the price of the currency, you are mining, in the future will increase so that you will earn for me in not some option.
Than better invest now this 1000 euros in some coin and wait that price of this coin increase. The point of mining to the small should be to adjust mining and check it once a week and not that you are standing over it all the time. Options to find a coin that may explode in the future or constantly changing in, at that moment, most cost-effective coin are not profitable for one of the miners and they require a lot of time and knowledge.
If you just decided and determined you're gonna start dealing with mining then I would recommend you to buy ASIC Antminer Z9 mini.
In my account he costs around 1000€ (ASIC 850$ + power supply 100$ + 50 $ postage + 250 $ customs).
With its features 10.0 kSol / s with 266W consumption current return on investment is under 90 days.
The guarantee is 180 days

 

[cryptofrka]

Ok, let's proceed

Original post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3671333.msg46963394#msg46963394

Rough translation:

While preparing for the forum hangout, I finally visited the Bitcoin store exchange in City Centre East. I arrived by car so I parked at the garage and I saw that I parked right in front of the entrance next to which the exchange is located – as can be seen by the big billboard. There were no other customers inside the exchange so I explained to the girl working there how much approximately in BTC and ETH I'd like to sell. After she told me how much I would be getting, I rounded it down and she turned the monitor to me so I can scan the QR code (address). She read the BTC amount (8 decimals) out loud once again and after another check I completed the transaction. Both transactions were completed in less than a minute, because I paid attention that the network fee is high enough. They paid out my kuna, separately for each transaction. All went quickly and elegantly.
Between the transactions I wrote the current BTC and ETH values from CoinMarketCap so I have exact values for future analysis.
The analysis is as follows:
At the date of conversion, the HNB's exchange rate for USD was 6,393771.
1 BTC on CoinMarketCap was worth 6.574,53 USD, when we change that to Kuna we get 42.036,04 HRK.
Based on the receipt from Bitcoin Store the BTC exchange was done at a price of 38.837,58 HRK. Based on that, the difference ammounts to 8,24%.

1 ETH on CoinMarketCap was worth 209,31 USD, when we change that to Kuna we get 1.338,28 HRK.
Based on the receipt from Bitcoin Store the ETH exchange was done at a price of 1.233,51 HRK. Based on that, the difference ammounts to 8,49%.

I intentionally use the word difference instead of fee, because these percentages include all the fees (besides the network fee) and not only the Bitcoin Store fee. Basically, I was really happy with these percentages because here you can sell whenever you want to and when you search for a buyer yourself, it is hard to find one at a moment that suits you best for selling.
I recommend everybody to inform themselves about network fee prices before visiting the exchange to make sure they are choosing the fee that is high enough for instant transaction. My fees for instant transactions were 0,14 USD for BTC transaction and 0,02 USD for ETH transaction.
ETH fee: https://ethgasstation.info/
BTC fee: https://bitcoinfees.info/

At the very beginning, the girl asked me whether I want to leave my e-mail address and telephone number but she said it is not a requirement.
Another important thing to add, the limit for cash transaction without leaving personal info has been lowered from 15.000,00Kn per person to 7.500,00Kn.
I was also wondering if they control the incoming address when checking the limits but I forgot to ask. All in all, that's not that important.

Why I feel it is important:

A senior poster who many new people will trust found time to thoroughly analyze the conversion rates, left useful links for checking the fees and informed us all about the new limit for 'no-ID'transactions. All in all, a very informative post for everyone - a crypto Newbie who will now see the whole exchange process and all fees and to us a bit more experienced who got the information about lower limits - something that is really important.

[big_daddy]

Here is my translation of this original post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3196935.msg33165145#msg33165145

My translation:

Encouraged by the great interest for Airdrops and Bounty Campaigns, I have decided to write this post to briefly describe the strategy and my own experience on what to do after you get your first tokens.
I think the text is relevant for tokens up to $ 100-150. Later, I'll explain why.
As the majority of today's tokens are based on the Ethereum platform (these tokens are mostly called ERC20 Tokens) I've adapted the text to explain the trading with these tokens. In the text I will not describe how to trade with tokens on EtherDelta, cause there are a lot of tutorials on Youtube, the same thing applies for  the MetaMask, wich I strongly recommend to use.
It can be that I will turn attention on some details that was difficult to find.
After signing up for tokens to be airdropped or by doing a Bounty campaign, after a month two, your first token is deployed to your address. The first thing that you whant to know is the value of the token.
To check if the tokens has arrived on your address and what value they have I reccomand to use ethplorer.io, here you can see chronologically all the tokens you got, cause in a month or two, if you was diligent iun your work, the list can become crowded. If the tokens are officially listed elsewhere, you will immediately see their value. If the tokens are not yet officially listed their value can be checked on EtherDelta. To do this you will need a contract address, a token symbol, and a number of decimal places. All those contract details can be found on ethplorer.io.
Since EtherDelta is not quite a user friendly interface, I have just recently discovered where to enter the contract information that interests me and is not officially listed. In the upper left corner you have a drop-down list with all officially listed tokens and on the bottom you have an option where  to insert the data on your token ("Other").
There is another web site, DeltaBalances, where you could directly see the token value (this option is no longer working), this site can be used to see what tokens has been distributed to your address, and by clicking on the token itself you can see the available markets where those tokens can be traded, like EtherDelta or Fork Delta, without the need to insert manually the information under "Other" on EtherDelta.
DeltaBalances also shows some tokens that are assigned to each ETH address, but they worth nothing, so just ignore them.
Here you can see for example a comparative token list on the same ETH address on ethplorer.io and DeltaBalances, notice that only the RBL tokens are transferred to the address.
When you should sell the recived tokens?
The tokens who are connected to one successful project will have a low value after the distribution of the airdrop or/and bounty prizes to the partecipants. You have to wait a n exchange listing where the increase of the trading volume should positive affect the increas in value too. If your plan is to sell tokens immediately, do it as soon as possible than, the brst time sould be the first day after the listing, you are trying to catch here an investor who has missed the  ICO, for example. The only good thing about selling such a quick sale is that you will get some money from those tokens that will eventually collapse because, as a rule, in those first days you still don't know his destiny.
If you decide to hold, then wait until the token is listed on some exchange with a bigger trading volume. Keep yourself informed, read all the information provided by a team working on a token that you are trading with.

Why trade on EtherDelta or ForkDelta?
For those who don't  know ForkDelta is an EtherDelta clone and both sites use the same trading agreement. But there is one difference. The sale of the token that is made on EtherDel will also be seen on ForkDelti while the reverse is not valid. That's why is good to create dals on EtherDelta and watch the market situation on ForkDelta.
At the beginning I've mentioned that this text is good for tokens with a value up to $ 100. The main reason for this because of  the exchange exit fees. If you want to withdraw BTC or ETH from the exchange, you can be chargerd ~5-10$, which sometimes exceeds the token value itself. The fees you have to pay on EtherDelta are the network charge for the token transfer (between $ 0.01 and $ 0.15), exchange access fee (0.3% of the token value), and a network fee for withdrawing ETH from the exchange. As a rule, if you are willing to wait twenty minutes for the transaction to run, both transactions will be under $ 0.20. You can merge multiple tokens into one transaction and save even more on fees.
The fee on EtherDelta can be marked as only 0.3%, that is negligible at all.

To optimize the transaction speed and the price of the tx itself use Ethgasstation. After a few transactions you will already be practicing and getting the feeling of how low you can go with Gas to make it all going reasonably fast. I usually use SafeLow + 20% of Gas price, and in such cases I go to 90% SafeLow.
Edit 7.5.18. If you have put too low gas price

It's a very detailed manual on Croatian, what to do when you get the first tokens, that can help every ICO investor, bounty hunter or newbie
Sharing his own experience, RegulusHR, helped a lot of local board users

Best regards,
big_daddy

[bernardos]

Original post by RegulusHr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3671333.msg36747904#msg36747904

English translation:

First crypto currency exchange opened in Croatia

I don’t know if you saw this announcement but it could be very interesting, especially for those who like to talk to someone and get their opinion before buying/selling crypto currencies.
Their commission fee is 5% when trading with fiat.
My question is do they ask for ID verification? Does anyone have any experience with them? I hope that someone from Split will go and try their services and write about their impressions.

http://www.poslovni.hr/tehnologija/hrvatska-dobila-svoju-prvu-fizicku-mjenjacnicu-kriptovaluta-raste-broj-zaposlenih-340656
http://bitcoin-store.hr/#/
https://crobitcoin.com/ducan-za-kriptovalute-otvoren-u-splitu/

[Trofo]

Original post by RegulusHr:
Multisignature address and wallet

My translation of linked post:

💰💰 Multisignature address and wallet 💰💰

Discussion regarding forum security has triggered my memory (read something a long time ago) and made me research into one of BTC address features which is the possibility of BTC transaction to be signed with multiple private keys.
The idea is that there are multiple private keys for one public address. The keys don't have to be on same device or even in possession of the same person and to execute the transaction you need multiple signatures. You can find more details here

There is a lot of combinations, ie. you can create 3 private keys and configure it that 2 of them are enough to execute transaction. You can have one key on computer wallet, second on mobile phone and third on USB stick (or Ledger Nano). Since you would probably use computer key most often, the second key on mobile phone is actually working like personal 2FA authentication.

It is not probable that some hacker will succeed to gain 2 of your keys at the same time because he would need get into two of your devices. If you can't access one of your devices you can still use your assets immediately (you can also make backups of all your keys).
List of wallets which can use multisignature addresses with short descriptions you can findhere.

Personally I like Electrum because it is wallet available on multiple platforms, has portable version (USB stick) and I already have it installed on my computer. There is also a tutorial on how to create Multisignature wallet with Electrum.

If some of you have experience with multisignature addresses please share it with us here.

I chose this post as my contribution because it was a trigger for me to experiment a bit with multisig wallets. I heard about them before but didn't started deep research/using them before reading Regulus post in Croatian section.

[mikeywith]

I have not been around for so long, but this got to be one of the most interesting ban appeal topics, judging by the amount of work these members are putting , they must have missed the banned user really bad, it makes me think , if i was ever banned for whatever reason, will anybody really give a fuck ? probably not.

i did comment on this case last month, i skimmed again through the banned member's posts and I still think he is worthy of an exception, I am not sure if there have been any successful ban appeals that were caused by plagiarism, but if there is , then I think this guy has a good chance.

[Pmalek]

The problem here is that many members believe that the Croatian board is standing up for Regulus because they want their merit source back or the milking cow, how it was referred to in one of the posts. In reality Regulus will never be a merit source again, it is not likely to happen and nobody in the Croatian board expects that. if he is forgiven he will also probably receive a signature ban as well and he said he is OK with that.

Many people know Regulus in real life and got to meet him when he organised a meeting for the local community a while ago. He has a lot of support but unfortunately that support comes only from the members belonging to the same sub board. 

mikeywith seems to be the only neutral member who took a look at Regulus's posts and agrees with the Croatian community. Would be good if some other neutral members could browse through his posts the way mikey did and post here what they find.

[mikeywith]

The problem here is that many members believe that the Croatian board is standing up for Regulus because they want their merit source back or the milking cow

I have not read the comments, but it's safe to assume that many members have this conspiracy theory occupying a huge part of their brains, the theory however is not completely invalid.

anyhow, it is almost certain that if this member is to be un-banned, there is probably less than 0.00001% chance for him becoming a merit source again, so if this is the only reason why his community are standing up for him( which i doubt), then i suggest one of them should apply for merit source already.

[Daniel91]

The problem here is that many members believe that the Croatian board is standing up for Regulus because they want their merit source back or the milking cow

I have not read the comments, but it's safe to assume that many members have this conspiracy theory occupying a huge part of their brains, the theory however is not completely invalid.

anyhow, it is almost certain that if this member is to be un-banned, there is probably less than 0.00001% chance for him becoming a merit source again, so if this is the only reason why his community are standing up for him( which i doubt), then i suggest one of them should apply for merit source already.

I already applied and become merit source in January (just a few days before RegulusHr received permaban), so we don't have problem with that.
In fact, I created topic in the local section where all local members can report good quality posts and if such posts pass my judgment, I give merit.
So, in our local community we have merit source and this is not issue any more.
I would like to ask something.
Does anybody think seriously that local members still supporting RegulusHR here, even 4 months after he received permaban, because they are hoping that he will again become merit source?
Seriously?
If his permaban will be removed, what will be only second or third such case in the history of this forum, he will be lucky if will be allowed to write posts here or to have signature without any restrictions.
Don't you think that there is another reason that is much more likely and logical for such great support for RegulusHr, support that is unrecorded in the history of this forum?
By reading translations of his posts, prepared by local members, and reading how much these posts meant to many young members of our community, I think that all neutral members on this forum can understand importance of RegulusHr for this forum.
Based on that, and based on the condition established by the admin for the exception from permaban, "good for the forum as a whole" we ask for removal of his permaban.

We will not give up from RegulusHR and will continue this campaign how long it takes, 2 more months, 6 months, 1 year or more, doesn't matter.
The only thing we are looking for and expecting is to have someone finally review this case and decides fairly and in accordance with all the facts.
I think that we don't ask to much here.
Don't you think so?

[ovcijisir]

The problem here is that many members believe that the Croatian board is standing up for Regulus because they want their merit source back or the milking cow

I have not read the comments, but it's safe to assume that many members have this conspiracy theory occupying a huge part of their brains, the theory however is not completely invalid.

anyhow, it is almost certain that if this member is to be un-banned, there is probably less than 0.00001% chance for him becoming a merit source again, so if this is the only reason why his community are standing up for him( which i doubt), then i suggest one of them should apply for merit source already.

Does anybody think seriously that local members still supporting RegulusHR here, even 4 months after he received permaban, because they are hoping that he will again become merit source?
Seriously?

To everyone who thinks that milking merit is the motivation behind this ban appeal I have only one thing to say - it says more about you then us.
Not everyone is motivated on greed and I would like that anyone who participates on this topic acknowledge this.

If his permaban will be removed, what will be only second or third such case in the history of this forum, he will be lucky if will be allowed to write posts here or to have signature without any restrictions.
Don't you think that there is another reason that is much more likely and logical for such great support for RegulusHr, support that is unrecorded in the history of this forum?

There is more then enough evidence to prove that RegulusHR is great asset to this community as well as human being. It is so weird that staff members stay silent for so long??