Ban Appeal RegulusHr and discussion on topic "good for the forum as a whole".

[asche]

My attention was just brought to this from someone I know.

I must say, after seeing some exceptions being made for bans, the support OP got from his board is kind of overwhelming.

I fail to understand how in this particular case the permaban was not undone for time served + lenghty sig bann.

The fact he was solely active in the croatian board should not be a valid reason for this and I hope that if the case was dismissed, it was for a good reason.

I hope we will get a definitive answer one this one day.

[cryptofrka]

Well, I really have to hand it out to you, guys. You are amazing!

We are waiting for 5 months for an answer regarding permaban (please note - not ban removal per se - just an answer that somebody looked into this case and made a decision) for one of our members.

5 months. 150 days. That is the time needed to build a house. Learn a foreign language. Become an expert in Javascript. FFS, if you drove your car for 150 days, you would reach the Moon.

Meanwhile, asslickers get their permabans removed in less than a day. It is so funny to see how all of you boast with your forum reputations and consider yourselves mighty, just and important, but when you scratch the surface it becomes so clear you are nothing more than a bunch of people incapable of normally running a forum. I know you will think 'this guy is full of shit', but it is also a part of the problem you are having - your heads are so deep in your asses so you don't see clearly anymore.

So, deal with your politics, keep fighting between you like screaming children and continue measuring your d*cks, that is what is taking most of your time anyway.

I'm done with this shit - but not that anybody from you will care. You should though, because there is more people like me here than there are people like you, and when you drive all of us away with your pettiness and double standards, you will have nothing left besides 8000 spam accounts that your script will easily handle.

It tagged one of our great members 2-3 days ago as well, Branko, a 53-year-old IT guy. For copy/pasting. A year ago, for 1 post. Forgot to put quotes, bam, permaban. He will not even try to fight it, he saw that we did not get an answer here for 5 months.

Stalin looks like a nice guy compared to this shit.

Rage out, do what you will. Less and less people even care.

[marlboroza]

@cryptofrka maybe theymos knows something we don't so he doesn't want to reply because of that or maybe he is deeply sad because someone who become merit source with larger number of smerits turned out to be "c/p-person or maybe he was busy for last 5 months building house and he will maybe reply soon. I am also interested why some accounts are unbanned and regulus is not.

[suchmoon]

Rage out, do what you will. Less and less people even care.

Letting the steam out once in a while is good, it's just that you're directing it at the wrong people. Admins and mods are generally not part of any dramas here and they're the ones to make a decision in this case. And vice versa, the drama club members have fuck all to do with this. Besides neither Regulus nor Branko are innocent as you make it sound. I'd be happy to see both of them get a softer penalty on the account of their forum contributions but you're not gonna achieve that by yelling at staff as if they did something wrong.

Regulus has a decent appeal thread going on here - why don't you work on one for Branko as well.

maybe he was busy for last 5 months building house

I'd bet on him driving to the Moon.

[cryptofrka]

@cryptofrka maybe theymos knows something we don't so he doesn't want to reply because of that or maybe he is deeply sad because someone who become merit source with larger number of smerits turned out to be "c/p-person or maybe he was busy for last 5 months building house and he will maybe reply soon. I am also interested why some accounts are unbanned and regulus is not.

If Theymos is the one reading through all ban appeals and making every single decision alone, then we are more of a North Korean forum than a Soviet one. However, I doubt that is the case.
And yea, on a sidenote - you are Croatian, you read Reguls's posts and should really not be calling him a "c/p person". That 'good project, I support' airdrop post he was banned for is probably hidden somewhere in our post history as well, just waiting to be dug out by this shitty script.
Plagiarism is something else. It is a tough offense which should be dealt with harshly. Copying somebody's 4-word post is hardly plagiarism (although theoretically I can understand the connection).

Letting the steam out once in a while is good, it's just that you're directing it at the wrong people. Admins and mods are generally not part of any dramas here and they're the ones to make a decision in this case. And vice versa, the drama club members have fuck all to do with this. Besides neither Regulus nor Branko are innocent as you make it sound. I'd be happy to see both of them get a softer penalty on the account of their forum contributions but you're not gonna achieve that by yelling at staff as if they did something wrong.

But they did something wrong, did they not? They are completely ignoring the thread for 5 months. They lifted the ban from Bill Gator the same day. Probably others as well.
Neither Regulus nor Branko are 'innocent', the core point of this thread was to prove that the penalty was too harsh. Whatever advice you gave us, we followed. We are really feeling stupid already - if 20 of us is trying to make a point and we are constantly being ignored, it makes you feel like sh*t. Not even a reply? That shows a lack of manners as well.
Mods/admins should be cherrypicked and their primary interest should be making this forum as equal as possible for everybody. Their role should be one of guidance and support, not one of ignorance and double standards.

I am neither yelling nor trying to pick a fight. I am just trying to provide feedback.

Regulus has a decent appeal thread going on here - why don't you work on one for Branko as well.

I already told you he's 53. He'll be dead before the mighty mods evaluate it.

[Lauda]

@cryptofrka maybe theymos knows something we don't so he doesn't want to reply because of that or maybe he is deeply sad because someone who become merit source with larger number of smerits turned out to be "c/p-person or maybe he was busy for last 5 months building house and he will maybe reply soon. I am also interested why some accounts are unbanned and regulus is not.

If Theymos is the one reading through all ban appeals and making every single decision alone, then we are more of a North Korean forum than a Soviet one. However, I doubt that is the case.

Yet another emotional statement in the path of defending the fraud that is OP. Making Regulus anything was always a mistake. He does not need to be on the forum. If you like him, talk to him through other channels.

They lifted the ban from Bill Gator the same day. Probably others as well.

Gator is a degenerate account buyer; cases are not comparable.

[cryptofrka]

Once again, an outburst from you regarding the trivial things from my post. I will refrain from petty quarrels with you, it just ain't my cup of tea.

Bottom line - this thread is about Regulus's ban appeal. Bans were lifted (even from people you call degenerates) so we have the right to appeal and since you are not the one deciding, we will appeal until we hear from someone that is deciding.

[bill gator]

Gator is a degenerate account buyer; cases are not comparable.

</3 Am I a degenerate for a reason other than buying my account or are you being redundant?

I don't think they're trying to compare the content of the cases, rather they're making a point about the inconsistent action (or inaction) when it comes to ban appeals.

I also see that this user is get red trust from DT (Lauda) for plagiarism, is this even something that deserve negative feedback?

I'll undo it if he's unbanned, sig. banned and removed as a merit source.

I thought plagiarism was something that staff is handling. Do we really require you to be the back-up enforcer on this matter?

[Lauda]

Once again, an outburst from you regarding the trivial things from my post. I will refrain from petty quarrels with you, it just ain't my cup of tea.

Bottom line - this thread is about Regulus's ban appeal. Bans were lifted (even from people you call degenerates) so we have the right to appeal and since you are not the one deciding, we will appeal until we hear from someone that is deciding.

If all the merit that he, unjustly, distributed in order to farm accounts in your section got reverted this would be pretty quiet other than a few circle-jerking friends of his. Russian, Turkish, Croatian, all the same. Nepotism and circle-jerking. There is no reason to unban OP.

[cryptofrka]

If all the merit that he, unjustly, distributed in order to farm accounts in your section got reverted this would be pretty quiet other than a few circle-jerking friends of his. Russian, Turkish, Croatian, all the same. Nepotism and circle-jerking. There is no reason to unban OP.

And the grumpiness turns to soft racism. Nice, I wonder how much further we can go with this.

Also, I'm a farm account? My merits are undeserved?
Nope, I just can't stand bullies. Especially fake keyboard ones.

[sergey1980]

cryptofrka maybe it's time to stop this humiliation and useless dialogue. The administration does not care about local boards, no one here will not read the appeal.  If your friend was needed for the administration, he would have been unbanned long ago.

[Daniel91]

cryptofrka maybe it's time to stop this humiliation and useless dialogue. The administration does not care about local boards, no one here will not read the appeal.  If your friend was needed for the administration, he would have been unbanned long ago.

Well, themos gave a clear answer about the criterion for removing permaban:

There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

So I hope you are not right and case of RegulusHr will be reviewed by admins, in accordance with the rules they have themselves determined.
If that does not happen, then that would mean that you were right and that would be a very sad day for the forum because it would mean admins didn't comply with their own rules.

[sergey1980]

You misunderstood the rules of the forum and its policies Here, no one owes you anything and should not. I studied a few dozen cases on the forum on appeals. I saw one user with 5 cases of plagiarism being punished for 1 year of the prohibition of carrying a signature. Another user for 1 case of plagiarism gets permoban. Some users do not even know the reasons for their ban.
The forum administration is not idiots If they wanted to, they would publish the criteria for the user’s usefulness on the forum or respond to appeals in order to avoid a huge amount of spam in the meta section.
I have nothing against your waiting appeal.
Your actions are like trying to smash a concrete wall with your head.
I corresponded with many banned users. The worst punishment is not a ban account. The user is upset only in the first days, in a month, 2 or 3 months and more sadness disappears. The worst punishment is when admins do not want to communicate with you.
Accept the fact of a ban on the forum and develop further your projects elsewhere.

[Daniel91]

You misunderstood the rules of the forum and its policies Here, no one owes you anything and should not. I studied a few dozen cases on the forum on appeals. I saw one user with 5 cases of plagiarism being punished for 1 year of the prohibition of carrying a signature. Another user for 1 case of plagiarism gets permoban. Some users do not even know the reasons for their ban.
The forum administration is not idiots If they wanted to, they would publish the criteria for the user’s usefulness on the forum or respond to appeals in order to avoid a huge amount of spam in the meta section.
I have nothing against your waiting appeal.
Your actions are like trying to smash a concrete wall with your head.
I corresponded with many banned users. The worst punishment is not a ban account. The user is upset only in the first days, in a month, 2 or 3 months and more sadness disappears. The worst punishment is when admins do not want to communicate with you.
Accept the fact of a ban on the forum and develop further your projects elsewhere.

Thank you for your opinion, I appreciate it.
Just to make it clear, we are talkng about the permaban for my friend, not for me (so no reason to develop my projects elsewhere)
Also, I didn't say that forum admins are idiots or something like this
Actually, I think this is one of the best organized forums I've been to.
I appreciate their hard work here on the forum.
Also, I hope they will recognize the public interest here and review this case again.

[marlboroza]

And yea, on a sidenote - you are Croatian, you read Reguls's posts and should really not be calling him a "c/p person".

Yeah, taking things out of context, ranting around and calling admin names usually work
You should stick to "regulus was net positive in Croatian local board and was posting only there since incident with copy/pasted posts..."

maybe he was busy for last 5 months building house

I'd bet on him driving to the Moon.

...in his thermos rocket.

[asche]

Regulus has a decent appeal thread going on here - why don't you work on one for Branko as well.

Leaving the trolling apart, Branko told me he didn't expect his request would be looked into since RegulusHr's wasn't either.

I might add Branko's bann was totally overkill as well imho. His copy pasted message was from a facebook group without an easy identifiable source, and I believe he should do an win an appeal. But again that's another story.

The only important part here is, at least having an answer from staff regarding this would SHOW that the appeal was at least taken into consideration, and would not scare people like branko off from appealing.

[sergey1980]

You misunderstood the rules of the forum and its policies Here, no one owes you anything and should not. I studied a few dozen cases on the forum on appeals. I saw one user with 5 cases of plagiarism being punished for 1 year of the prohibition of carrying a signature. Another user for 1 case of plagiarism gets permoban. Some users do not even know the reasons for their ban.
The forum administration is not idiots If they wanted to, they would publish the criteria for the user’s usefulness on the forum or respond to appeals in order to avoid a huge amount of spam in the meta section.
I have nothing against your waiting appeal.
Your actions are like trying to smash a concrete wall with your head.
I corresponded with many banned users. The worst punishment is not a ban account. The user is upset only in the first days, in a month, 2 or 3 months and more sadness disappears. The worst punishment is when admins do not want to communicate with you.
Accept the fact of a ban on the forum and develop further your projects elsewhere.

Thank you for your opinion, I appreciate it.
Just to make it clear, we are talkng about the permaban for my friend, not for me (so no reason to develop my projects elsewhere)
Also, I didn't say that forum admins are idiots or something like this
Actually, I think this is one of the best organized forums I've been to.
I appreciate their hard work here on the forum.
Also, I hope they will recognize the public interest here and review this case again.

I am glad that you understood my words correctly. Naturally, I talked about your friend, although I wrote wrong.
Maybe I’ll say rudely, but when within 5 months a dismissed employee asks his manager for the restoration of his position, then in this situation either the dismissed employee is an idiot, or he considers an idiot to be his manager
It was the best forum until the administration began to dig into dirty laundry. Dear participants accuse each other of fraud and fight for the possibility of owning "red paint". Beginners are very difficult to raise the rank in the local board. Explicit fraudulent ads are not moderated or deleted. In the Russian section in the topics about trading, mining, legal support, the minimum amount of useful information. This happens in the largest local section.
With such a policy, the forum administration will lose many good local specialists, and many local sections will die or be filled with spam.
I already receive more than 90% of useful information from social networks and paid groups. It saves a lot of time.

Here is a link to the post of a respected member of the forum. Brilliant phrase.
A little later, I find out that this is alt account of the global moderator
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152436.msg51404602#msg51404602

[ovcijisir]

Once again, an outburst from you regarding the trivial things from my post. I will refrain from petty quarrels with you, it just ain't my cup of tea.

Bottom line - this thread is about Regulus's ban appeal. Bans were lifted (even from people you call degenerates) so we have the right to appeal and since you are not the one deciding, we will appeal until we hear from someone that is deciding.

If all the merit that he, unjustly, distributed in order to farm accounts in your section got reverted this would be pretty quiet other than a few circle-jerking friends of his. Russian, Turkish, Croatian, all the same. Nepotism and circle-jerking. There is no reason to unban OP.

1. Croatian board is full of useful information, so I wouldn't call this circle-jerking.

2. There are 8 pages full of evidence why should RegulusHr be unbanned.

If your friend was needed for the administration, he would have been unbanned long ago.

I hope he will be unbanned. That would be proof that this forum didn't tunr out to be all about politics and backstabbing like it seems now.

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It was the best forum until the administration began to dig into dirty laundry. Dear participants accuse each other of fraud and fight for the possibility of owning "red paint".
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The way it started with all those rules and regulations on the end we will be lucky if we can write posts here on forum.

In the Russian section in the topics about trading, mining, legal support, the minimum amount of useful information. This happens in the largest local section.
With such a policy, the forum administration will lose many good local specialists, and many local sections will die or be filled with spam.
I already receive more than 90% of useful information from social networks and paid groups. It saves a lot of time.

I must say that this isn't the case in Croatian sub board. I get the most, if not all, important information about cryptocurrencies trough our local board. That is also one of the reasons why we want Regulus back.  On the other hand it is pretty frustrating to see that wishes of "less important boards" (boards not involved in forum politics) seem to be ignored for the most part.

[Branko]

Based on amount of work Croatian community put into this thread,
I think RegulusHR deserves comment from staff, no matter what
reply could be. Personally, I think he deserves second chance

[Daniel91]

OK so almost half year later this issue is not resolved yet.
User RegulusHr received incredible support from his local Croatian community and even many ''neutral'' forum users, Lauda offered to remove negative trust if some conditions are fulfilled, but admins and mods are silent about this issue.
'm very sad to see that some permabans are resolved in just a few days or even hours but here we don't see any progress for to long.
RegulusHr already made ban appeal and accepted any kind of punishment and his case is not worse than the others so I don't understand really why he is ignored here.
Don't you think that all users deserve the same, honest treatment on this forum?
That's a question for everyone.