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January 18, 2019, 02:50:46 PM
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Do you think there is enough awareness for Bitcoin and other leading cryptocurrencies. I really do not care much about all the others but Bitcoin must be supported for global adoption. Those of us that have benefited from the coin will have much more to gain in terms of value. Global commerce will gain in terms of reduced restrictions.

But the coin community isn't really doing enough save sitting around and waiting for centralized authorities to determine the trend. The reality is that governments map out policies that favor their fiat, so should the community.

I have started seeing the coin community as the custodian of Bitcoin and its success. I think we should take the bull by the horn and effectively market the coin like a business. This post for instance shows how ICOs can market their tokens like real business entities. By extention, Bitcoin enthusiasts should find ways to promote the coin for massive adoption. Fiat is business to governments. Bitcoin should be business to us.
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January 18, 2019, 03:40:27 PM
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Your attitude is like the one represented by the green party. For instance:
People should find ways to fight pollution!
We should reduce fume emissions and start using electric cars and hybrids!

Great slogans, but that's all they are. If you try to persuade me to use an electric car I'll just laugh, because a typical electric car costs 3 times more than a similar one with a petrol engine.
It's the same situation with advertising Bitcoin. I'm telling people around me about it and I'm always up for discussion, but I'm not going to spend money on advertising it in the media. I'm not that dedicated and I'm not that rich. Maybe some millionaires, the ones who sold at 20k could step in?

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January 18, 2019, 03:54:06 PM
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Everyone can be as enthusiastic as you, but not everyone can really spend money for advertisements and such just to get the word out there. The internet alone is already an enough resource for people to learn more about bitcoin, if they so do wish. As for the trend you're referring to, given that there isn't a central figure that controls the ins and outs for bitcoin, anyone are free to enter the market, and any government can create regulations and laws centered for their own nation regarding the use of bitcoin. No matter how many rich guys from bitcoin step in and make the move, that simply wouldn't change a thing as again, this is a free market, and they don't have the authority to do drastic changes for bitcoin and surely, not everyone would listen to them too.
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January 18, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
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But the coin community isn't really doing enough save sitting around and waiting for centralized authorities to determine the trend. The reality is that governments map out policies that favor their fiat, so should the community.

The coin community is the building block of bitcoin's network and it supports the price and is the reason for rhe adoption and attention bitcoin is getting.
There have been lots of seminars and webinars on bitcoin awareness organized by enthusiasts.
Centralized authorities in your context is not limited to the government. Industries and infrastructures would be a great addition and would form more solid support for the community.
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January 18, 2019, 04:16:14 PM
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There is no doubt, that we shouldn't just sit and wait for governments to take control of the cryptocurrency, the promotion depends only on the community
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January 18, 2019, 04:46:36 PM
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People had a lot to learn about this kind of market we can not just let someone chew on this kind of information and if he feels the need to just spit it because he burnt his tongue that is not the right thing to do, I really think the right way to present this is if certain people that have already have knowledge of this kind of market would gather help from one another but I really think that would happen because many enthusiasts really want to be unanimous in this kind of thing.
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January 18, 2019, 06:01:57 PM
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People had a lot to learn about this kind of market we can not just let someone chew on this kind of information and if he feels the need to just spit it because he burnt his tongue that is not the right thing to do, I really think the right way to present this is if certain people that have already have knowledge of this kind of market would gather help from one another but I really think that would happen because many enthusiasts really want to be unanimous in this kind of thing.

I totally agree here
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January 18, 2019, 06:30:02 PM
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I have started seeing the coin community as the custodian of Bitcoin and its success. I think we should take the bull by the horn and effectively market the coin like a business.

Market the coin as a business?
Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, it's not a business.

This post for instance shows how ICOs can market their tokens like real business entities. By extention, Bitcoin enthusiasts should find ways to promote the coin for massive adoption. Fiat is business to governments. Bitcoin should be business to us.
https://cryptoinfowatch.com/a-clickfunnels-review-automating-your-ico/

Oh right...
You mean bitcoinists should start lying to everybody that bitcoin can cure cancer, invent time travel, label carrots and so on?
The moment this non-sense would start I would probably turn bearish.


Everyone can be as enthusiastic as you, but not everyone can really spend money for advertisements and such just to get the word out there. The internet alone is already an enough resource for people to learn more about bitcoin, if they so do wish.ten to them too.
Your attitude is like the one represented by the green party. For instance:
People should find ways to fight pollution!
We should reduce fume emissions and start using electric cars and hybrids!
Great slogans, but that's all they are.

There are probably a hundred threads like this that pop up ey month when some user tries to make the people rise and fight and promote and...
But I've yet to see a few that start like
"In the past, I've done this and that and that to promote bitcoin, here is how you can help 1) 2) 3) 4)"

I can't help but see these topics like, do something for god sake, my investment is down 80%!

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January 18, 2019, 07:12:27 PM
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People had a lot to learn about this kind of market we can not just let someone chew on this kind of information and if he feels the need to just spit it because he burnt his tongue that is not the right thing to do, I really think the right way to present this is if certain people that have already have knowledge of this kind of market would gather help from one another but I really think that would happen because many enthusiasts really want to be unanimous in this kind of thing.
Thats it mate,spreading the word of crypto for all the people we love and thn they will do the same,it will be domino effect and the world will learn what is crypton$the advantage of having this than what banks can offer

I believe that we are the one who’s responsible for the popularity and acceptance of bitcoin and ofcourse all the cryptocurrencies.lets just do it tomorrow and to the days would come to benefits us and the whole community
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January 18, 2019, 07:34:39 PM
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Well bitcoin is a decentralized currency and at that its operations is not back by law that alone have affected the level at which the general public will view it, it our responsibility to spread the good news about bitcoin but it has limitations and most people are so slow to that due to the volatility of the market which is unpredictable.
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January 19, 2019, 12:17:50 AM
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Your attitude is like the one represented by the green party. For instance:
People should find ways to fight pollution!
We should reduce fume emissions and start using electric cars and hybrids!

Great slogans, but that's all they are. If you try to persuade me to use an electric car I'll just laugh, because a typical electric car costs 3 times more than a similar one with a petrol engine.
It's the same situation with advertising Bitcoin. I'm telling people around me about it and I'm always up for discussion, but I'm not going to spend money on advertising it in the media. I'm not that dedicated and I'm not that rich. Maybe some millionaires, the ones who sold at 20k could step in?

Actually media advertising is not a good way to advertise bitcoin because of the price and effectiveness. People may know bitcoin but there are certain standards that should be follow so that it would not mislead an information. The better option is by word of mouth and social media. Its a lot cheaper (specially word of mouth) and all you have to do is to post your achievements in bitcoin and how you did it. Its very simple yet effective.

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January 19, 2019, 01:21:23 AM
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Unless I own a business that revolves and needs bitcoin to live then I might spend much money to advertise it. But as of now, I am not. So I think the basic usage and showing people that this is what I bought with bitcoin is a small but successful word of mouth advertisement.

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January 19, 2019, 01:30:54 AM
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People had a lot to learn about this kind of market we can not just let someone chew on this kind of information and if he feels the need to just spit it because he burnt his tongue that is not the right thing to do, I really think the right way to present this is if certain people that have already have knowledge of this kind of market would gather help from one another but I really think that would happen because many enthusiasts really want to be unanimous in this kind of thing.

It's because lots of newbies entered with the wrong mindset in the first place, that's why when they can't take the heat, they immediately went on because they will easily be burned here. For me this community has done so much to really raise awareness, its that people really don't care because they're in just for the money and greed.

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January 19, 2019, 04:03:27 AM
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Bitcoin does not need to be promoted, and mass adoption could achieve without focusing too much on advertisement. Just look back at how Bitcoin started, no single promotion is required, it is just the mainstream that aware how potential Bitcoin technologies are. We just need to continues to develop Bitcoin, and as the time goes by some user have an increase the awareness of how corrupt the system is, and how could Bitcoin fix that.
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January 19, 2019, 04:11:45 AM
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We are already promoting but only at our best capacity, by being active in this forum and helping this community grow, it's already a way to promote bitcoin. It was the government made the bitcoin's popularity now because they want to regulate us, and for me, popularity does not mean the price should rise easily because it will take time, it's about investors confidence as at the current stage, investors affect the price more compared to the regular user of the coin.

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January 19, 2019, 07:08:03 AM
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This is something that most people have been saying for years, but a lot of people just kept on doing nothing. Well, a lot of them are continuously moaning about the drop in the price and some are even blaming others that are doing something.  Shocked

Get your ass off that chair and start doing something to spread adoption. <Arrange Bitcoin meetups in your area and invite new people or go to local merchants and ask if they ever considered accepting Bitcoin as a payment option>  Tongue

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January 19, 2019, 09:50:00 AM
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Great slogans, but that's all they are. If you try to persuade me to use an electric car I'll just laugh, because a typical electric car costs 3 times more than a similar one with a petrol engine.
It's the same situation with advertising Bitcoin. I'm telling people around me about it and I'm always up for discussion, but I'm not going to spend money on advertising it in the media. I'm not that dedicated and I'm not that rich. Maybe some millionaires, the ones who sold at 20k could step in?

I don't think it is a good idea overall

Really, why would you want to advertise a currency? Have you seen anyone advertising the US dollar (or Russian ruble, for that matter)? The whole idea as such looks fruitless and useless to me. If a currency is good and superior to its competitors, people will use it, otherwise it is no use advertising it in the first place. If anything, we should spread the word about useful services using Bitcoin, but ultimately, it is still the job for those who offer these services, not us, the consumers

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January 19, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
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Project behund the ICOs are real business, ofcourse they have to promote their project and it should has CMO. Do you think that people will leave bitcoin because of those new altcoins? Ofcourse no. If we depend on altcoin it means that we depend on the developer, if the developer fail then we are in the big problem but if we depend on bitcoin then actually we depend on the community and it's technology. We sure that this technology could solve many problem in term of transactions and economy. We don't need central authority for bitcoin.

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January 19, 2019, 10:28:06 AM
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Current situation in market cryptocurrencies cannot be separated from manipulation, manipulation will always exist because there is no clear regulation in regulating cryptocurrencies. Manipulation will always exist when there are still some people who do have a goal to gain profits by utilizing the panic of many people. So this is where we have to know and learn to be patient because manipulation will have an impact on people who cannot be patient.
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January 19, 2019, 04:47:06 PM
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What you have mentioned is very true and manipulation will always exist and this is not a problem just for bitcoin market but it is common for any other because today majority of people try to gain profits from anything and some go to the extend of doing manipulation and like you have mentioned if bitcoin wants to change its path it is our responsibility as its users to change it to become successful because bitcoin on its own cannot do anything as a decentralized currency

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