If you are buying BTC in 2019 because you think it is Bitcoin, you are being foo

[pussyhunter6969]

To my own understanding, bitcoin still remains bitcoin and nothing will change that, but make sure that you will have a lot of Patience because, bitcoin is passing through though time, there may be a little changes but that doesn't mean, it still remains bitcoin.

but people need introduction, i bet someone introduced you too.

[pussyhunter6969]

unfortunately it is very hard to fight with someone who owns a domain name called "bitcoin.com" because newbies don't usually research, they only search on the internet and when they see the domain name they think it is trusted. and they are using that to their own advantage and fooling newbies into believing what they are selling them is "bitcoin" whereas they receive an altcoin. we have had a lot of complains in the past year from newbies who were confused why they haven't received "bitcoin" in their wallet while the place they bought it at (bitcoin.com) was showing them they sent the  coins already!

whats the best possible way to tackle that ? mention on bitcoin org website that bitcoin can't be on .com ( cause .com stands for commercial )

[clrpod]

Agreed, not much you can do except for trying to educate people and push them in the right direction. No legal recourse can be taken unlike in my scenario (though I don't think many people do get punished for selling fake rolex watches, although it's not something I know too much about!).

Education is the way. A fork is an altcoin, they can try to steal the bitcoin name but they can't because they came later, MUCH later.

You can order clones of almost anything from China, with varying qualities. For a small fee, they can stamp anything as the "brand". If you attempt to resell that in another country where counterfeiting is forbidden, you might get in trouble; for selling in those countries the clients usually just stamp another brand.

This is not related to free open source software of course. Forks are welcome and part of the ecosystem, but its up to you to make your fork "better", and for the people to welcome it. Sometimes forks add ideas that get implemented in the main tree, sometimes they dissolve as nobody wants them. Its part of the freedom of free software.

If you copy Linux, change its name and say its yours, the community will immediately denounce you for plagiarism. The correct etiquette when forking a project, is to give credit where credit is due. Some licenses make this obligatory, and some even require you to publish back your source code.

Calling the forks "Bitcoin" is a blatant lie. They have officially different names, although they use "Bitcoin" as part of their name, they are not.

It's not even like it's creating something new from scratch. At least a lot of knock-off products are created as good replicas. Instead of just being a copy and then changing 1-2 things and announcing it as being the better version and worse of the lot, denouncing the original. It wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't at least some recognition of that.

[Stargazer]

Comparing BCH to BTC is like comparing a real $30k rolex to a fake plastic rolex that cost you $10. To the uneducated they may look the same or even the plastic one slightly better, but to those who know their stuff, they can see one is just a cheap rip off and the other is the real deal.

The best comparison between Bitcoin and BCH! Personally, I never traded with BCH and I have no plan for it. They always mocked Bitcoin, but I believe without Bitcoin, BCH is nothing! Roger Ver and his followers always spread negative hype about bitcoin! That's why I unfollowed Roger Ver many days ago! Bitcoin investors are not fooled, rather they are very real with a wise decision!

[DooMAD]

essentially you just imagine it like dollars
BTC is the US dollar and BCH is canadian dollar and SV is australian

Correct. Just we have one big problem. I didn't ever see the CAD or AUD get promoted as "the true dollar". Instead, the altcoins in discussion tell everybody "uninformed" enough that they are the true Bitcoin.
And the fact that Ver owns bitcoin.com and many go there thinking they reached the official Bitcoin website makes the things worse.

Indeed.  We've definitely had this conversation before in a 24 page topic, in which franky1 spent most of his time arguing that it was absolutely fine to convince impressionable new users that BCH is Bitcoin (and that the fault for the confusion somehow lies with bitcoin.org).  It's not exactly a shock he's trying to post the same nonsense here.

[seoincorporation]

After the fork there has been a hard dispute about who is the main chain. Even nist say BCH is the main chain, and that's just nonsense for 95% of the bitcoin community. Just take a look to this CNN article and you will understand what i'm talking about.

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-is-the-original-blockchain-claims-nist-report/

[CryptoBry]

unfortunately it is very hard to fight with someone who owns a domain name called "bitcoin.com" because newbies don't usually research, they only search on the internet and when they see the domain name they think it is trusted. and they are using that to their own advantage and fooling newbies into believing what they are selling them is "bitcoin" whereas they receive an altcoin. we have had a lot of complains in the past year from newbies who were confused why they haven't received "bitcoin" in their wallet while the place they bought it at (bitcoin.com) was showing them they sent the  coins already!

This is actually deception and when you are dealing with a person who is so willing to deceive anyone using his vast resources then you are dealing with a very popular con artist with a large following and who can deny anytime the things he is doing which are all bad to the whole cryptocurrency community. Well, what can we expect? Being part of the cryptocurrency movement will never strip anyone of human nature -- that selfish and greedy part of it. I don't care about Roger Ver actually it is just sad that until now reality has not yet sinked in with the man.

[Colan Zolo]

Searching for domains without research is often misleading, but they are indeed more clever and this indeed needs to be known to beginners, as I am a beginner. I think where there is a bitcoin forum paying with altcoin, even though BCH is an altcoin that still depends on Bitcoin.

[CeridwenNancy]

i don't think so. in the new year every think will change.

[kelz1]

There must be a clarification campaign to prevent people from buying bitcoincash. Show them fake counterfeit products and relate them to bch so people stop buying it

[avikz]

BCH community is manipulated with fake posts, believing its real bitcoin. Can you all please take time to knock some sense to this dude ? if BCH has its promoters, let us be BTC promoters.

If you are buying BTC in 2019 because you think it is Bitcoin, you are being fooled. You actually are looking for BCH, the peer to peer electronic cash system for online payments. http://buy.bitcoin.com

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1085900898759368705

Lol! Just look at the replies to the tweet! People are already backlashing at it and seems like it is only Mr. Ver who is promoting this altcoin. Let me quote a line from Bible,

Whoever digs a pit will fall into it; if someone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them.

Wait for this to happen. Not today, probably not tomorrow but certainly in someday! There's no place from hiding!

[shield132]

Omg, that was the greatest comment on Roger's twitter: Notice how the whitepaper points to .ORG and not to the fake .COM <-- This ends Roger's silly statement. Despite the fact that he ownes great domain, other websites like cointelegraph, ccn and so on have top positions in google compared to Roger's web and also those sources are more trustworthy in people's eye.
Why he posted it? Because he tries his best to fool people, he is failing to achieve his goal, bch will never become first, let him tweet and dream.

[rosezionjohn]

Just ignore Bitcoin Cash and their "community". They are desperate for recognition that is why they keep hitting on Bitcoin. Paying them any attention could only works in their favor.

[LogitechMouse]

The one who is advertising Bitcoin from the start is now advertising his own SHITCOIN and trying to manipulate those new to average investors out there telling that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin.

Lucky for me, I know the difference between the 2 but for those newbies out there it is easy to manipulate them. Education is the key in order for them not to be fooled by this desperate idiot Roger Ver.

[Wexnident]

Comparing BCH to BTC is like comparing a real $30k rolex to a fake plastic rolex that cost you $10. To the uneducated they may look the same or even the plastic one slightly better, but to those who know their stuff, they can see one is just a cheap rip off and the other is the real deal.

Definitely, what they expect from a bitcoin competitor? a praisal? You can see to his post that he is scamming, he is not comparing bitcoin but instead using the name of bitcoin for his own good. He says that people need bitcoincash but his website does not include its coin name. He is trying to manipulate the thinking of people with his coin telling people buying bitcoin is foolishness because of sudden decrease from last year.

[pussyhunter6969]

essentially you just imagine it like dollars
BTC is the US dollar and BCH is canadian dollar and SV is australian

Correct. Just we have one big problem. I didn't ever see the CAD or AUD get promoted as "the true dollar". Instead, the altcoins in discussion tell everybody "uninformed" enough that they are the true Bitcoin.
And the fact that Ver owns bitcoin.com and many go there thinking they reached the official Bitcoin website makes the things worse.

Blockstream Exposed: Roger Ver, Samson Mow debate goes off the rails


take a look at this then -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbPz4g9rZQ

[pussyhunter6969]

The one who is advertising Bitcoin from the start is now advertising his own SHITCOIN and trying to manipulate those new to average investors out there telling that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin.

Lucky for me, I know the difference between the 2 but for those newbies out there it is easy to manipulate them. Education is the key in order for them not to be fooled by this desperate idiot Roger Ver.

he does makes few reasonable point, i think he is offended by RBF & rejecting proposal of  increase the block size.

[devinks]

Comparing BCH to BTC is like comparing a real $30k rolex to a fake plastic rolex that cost you $10. To the uneducated they may look the same or even the plastic one slightly better, but to those who know their stuff, they can see one is just a cheap rip off and the other is the real deal.

That's right and I have bought a lot of bitcoin myself this year because I believe that this year Bitcoin will give me a big profit, so what you say on the topic above will not be cared for.

[mutrang23]

BCH community is manipulated with fake posts, believing its real bitcoin. Can you all please take time to knock some sense to this dude ? if BCH has its promoters, let us be BTC promoters.

If you are buying BTC in 2019 because you think it is Bitcoin, you are being fooled. You actually are looking for BCH, the peer to peer electronic cash system for online payments. http://buy.bitcoin.com

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1085900898759368705

People are the most dangerous animals, they are always looking for ways to earn money, and they do everything for that. I realized that rich people make money by deceiving poor people to make them poorer. Everyone, please share this so widely that everyone knows about it.

[martina14]

I dont think bitcoincash can stand strong now.
Their fork is a failure in terms to had a pump in the market.
It was a 50% or more dump in the market after reopening for trading.
THat is a big slap on the project.